Posts by cultBgone

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I gotta ask,... Is the org gonna fade from itself and just take what money that is left and run?

by gda in

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friends

i just can't shake this odd thought...

Warwick, What is it good for?

by freemindfade in

absolutely nothing.... has anyone dared ask what they need this place for?

think about a few things.

in bethels hay day, there was a shit ton of literature being printed, they even need a giant factory with elevators a truck could fit in.

cultBgone

Stealth, funny you mentioned the push-button lake drain as I'm trying to wrap my head around the caption beneath that famous (now-missing) photo of the drain installation diver:

A hired diver in Blue Lake replaces an old valve with a new one. With the push of a button, the level of the lake can now be lowered to prevent flooding in the event of a hurricane.

The last major flooding in Warwick was ten years ago when heavy rainfall caused portions of Kings Highway to be underwater and some cars had to be abandoned (no lives were lost). Most of the water damage was to downtown businesses because their basements flooded. No mention was made of property damage outside of town, as the flooding was primarily on roadways as ditches overflowed.

I'm curious as to just WHY they feel the need to drain "their" lake and WHERE the water drained out of oh-holy-crap lake would be drained TO? And hurricane damage? Seriously, people, these guys use Catastrophic terminology to justify everything they do.

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Just recovering from a 'Mormon Mind Melt' ...

by LoveUniHateExams in

i was in town centre about an hour ago to buy a shirt and tie for an upcoming job interview when i was stopped by a youngish, clean cut american young man (20-ish) in a cheap suit.

my heart sank as i thought it was local jws.

to my slight relief, it was mormons!

cultBgone

I don't know how you endured that long, but kudos to you for hanging in there! And I've heard some wacko things from ex-mormons, but that's the first time I've heard about g*d being a physical creature. Thanks for sharing this!

I am also struck by how similar these two "religions" are. With that in mind, and with all the similarities that have been mentioned on this board between jws and mormons, will any of us be surprised one day to find that there's a large, fabulously wealthy international corporation called Religion, Inc. that markets most of the worldwide religions?

One does have to wonder about these huge money-making businesses (disguised as religions) that are focused on Wealth Management rather than Helping People.

For those who believe: What would Jesus say?

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Fake Reporting, Growth and Crap Blessings

by cookiemaster in

i think the numbers shown in the yearbook and with other occasions that are used by the gibberish buddies to boast about the blessings from jehovah are super fake and inflated, much of it even without their knowledge.

i think they like to take advantage of all sorts of technicalities and loopholes to report numbers as great as possible, but it's not like jws are super reliable sources of reporting.for example i have not been in field circus for something like two years.

i never talked about "the truth" with any non-jw, yet i've never been considered inactive.

cultBgone

I always wondered about this even when I was "in". Not only do they (obviously) not verify the numbers submitted each month, but they can publish whatever numbers they feel will do them the most good. Because even when numbers go down in a certain area, that was used as a call to go "serve" in that area.

Remember when they used to claim that they only counted "active" dubs in their reports? When you think of the THOUSANDS of faders and inactive ones who never report time, yet are still counted as "members", you must wonder if they jack up the literature placement and bibble study numbers in an attempt to make themselves look good. And when is the last time they reported how many were disfellowshipped last year? They've tossed around the *40,000* figure for decades but I'm not sure they even allude to it anymore.

Not much different from the worldwide media today. They can "report" anything they want and sheeple will believe every single detail, because they have given them authority over their thinking ability.

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Jehovah's Chariot slams into reverse!

by apocalypse in

the question i will be asking dubs at the hall this week is, "since jesus is directing the slave.... why has he done a 180..?".

last sunday we studied how jesus is directing the slave to build an average of 5 kingdom halls a day since 2000. why has he changed his mind and gone in the completely opposite direction?.

if this 'change' is not securely lodged in their craw by the time i am through, then i will eat my hat..

cultBgone

I'm hoping that the eldubs will see this reversal to be the large "take the money and run" scenario it truly is, and perhaps spur a greater defection from their ranks. I think that would do more to wake up the rank & file as it would hit them closer to home.

I know it will never happen, but just imagine the fallout if an entire eldub body resigns -- right after sharing their reasons with the entire congregation. The stuff dreams are made of.

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World Wide Construction comes to a Shuddering Halt - Jehovah's Blessing has Evidently been Suspended!

by Slidin Fast in

the chelmsford project in the uk has already come to a halt and every one has been sent home.

the bethel family in london is to be cut by several hundred.

my impression is that most ambitious youngster in the org dream of being involved with the building program.

cultBgone

Have the gb built themselves a retirement place in Grand Cayman yet? I can almost picture them fleeing the US to snuggle up next to all the funds they've socked away in that lovely off-shore banking paradise, and leaving the Borg in a shambles.

Whoops, sorry, just daydreaming again. 😎

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Are You A Thinker And A Lurker?

by konceptual99 in

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friends

if you are a lurker then you are probably a thinker.

you will already be wondering about a number of aspects of jw doctrine and how they stack up against reason, logic and modern scientific evidence.

if so, then i appeal to you to meditate and reason on one implication arising from the latest news that the next publication will be a simplified version of an already simplified book.

cultBgone

Bttt for new lurkers 👍🏻

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Old is Becoming New Again?

by Tazemanian-devil in

is it just me, or does it seem like jw.org is returning to some very old methods from rutherford's era?.

- their carts / booths is very reminiscent of the sandwich board system, including the fact that they no longer personally engage.

- showing videos via the tablet / smartphone is almost exactly like the phonograph method they used.

cultBgone

Amen to that, OC.

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Remember that Letter to Elders that asked them to privately inquire if any of the brothers were LAWYERS.....

by Muddy Waters in

i remember a thread here somewhere where a letter to the body of elders was posted and elders were to read part of the letter asking who might have experience or training in video media, graphic design, etc.

then on a separate page not to be read to the congregation was for elders to make discreet inquiries as to any who might have legal knowledge, experience or expertise.. well, in view of all this new kafluffle about branch closures, building work suspended, bethel layoffs, etc., it really makes me wonder now just what the heck is going on.

has the gb been shafted by their own legal counsel or financial advisors?

cultBgone

Love this: We need college-educated lawyers, keep it quiet though. And don't let anyone else know as they might run off to college themselves.

Such hypocrites!!

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The bridge burning has begun.

by sparrowdown in

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friends

i was feeling particularly hopeless about the whole jws being assholes thing and sick to death of pretending so ....

i rang my sister and told her that i no longer believe jws have the truth and the phone went silent, when i asked her to say something she just said if that was the case then she would have to hang up on me and then proceeded to indeed hang up..

so i texted her back immediately with fu..

cultBgone

Silence, in this case, is golden. They'll move on to someone else when you won't come out to play.