Posts by cultBgone

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The Creation of Eve

by jws in

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for those of you who believe in the bible, have you ever seriously thought about the events that led up to the creation of eve?.

genesis 2 - 18 the lord god said, it is not good for the man to be alone.

i will make a helper suitable for him.. .

cultBgone

The whole "removed a rib" thing was just another one of those...."just be patient, you'll understand it later" issues...

Nope, never made any sense at all.

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Trolley / Cart (reverse) witnessing

by FatFreek 2005 in

i have yet to see a cart or trolley in our small community but am always ready when we visit the nearby mall in larger little rock, ar.

my billfold is jammed with a half dozen or so handouts printed and scissor cut from this link.

it references the main (11 minute read) at the bottom just in case the table sparks their interest.

so, i have some free time on my hands and decided to volunteer for a hospice company that is fairly large and well known.. anyway, i visit people that have a relatively short time to live and it is very fulfilling.

however, the company that i am going through is for-profit.

i knew this when i signed up, but i don't care because its all about the hospice patients for me.. so, i get this email:.

cultBgone

Usually "non-profit" means that the directors and higher-ups get all the cash at the end of the year to make it so there's no "profit." They are paid outrageously to run these orgs....sound familiar? Free living and travel around the world is even better than making money...because you don't have to pay taxes.

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Interview with cultBgone

by cultBgone in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.. can't, have family still in.

were you a born in or a convert?.

convert.

cultBgone

(((hugs))) to you all!

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Electronic KMs Now Being Provided By Org to R&F?

by pronomono in

i received a call from my book study conductor the other day asking for my email address so that he could start sending electronic copies of the km to me.

has anyone else received calls like this?

i've missed quite a few meeting (it's been nice) so am unaware if any letter has been read.

cultBgone

You gotta love that the eldubs arrogance or laziness has led so many to TTATT!

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Looking Back, Are You Embarrassed By Your Attitudes, Speech, Actions as a JW?

by minimus in

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i think of how judgmental we were as witnesses.

"worldly ones" were almost as bad as disfellowshipped ones but not as bad as "apostates"..

cultBgone

Absolutely embarrassed. It's difficult to believe that I actually bought into all the mean-spirited nonsense "in the name of god". And worse that I taught it to my children.

I like myself so much more now...

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Movie BLACKFISH Reminds Me of Watchtower Corporation

by OnTheWayOut in

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friends

you can google it to learn more but blackfish is a documentary about killed whales in captivity.

particularly a male named tilicum who wound up killing trainers, the last one in 2010.. i had to bite my tongue when my jw wife said "whad did ya think?".

i answered but wanted to say that seaworld giving the impression that trainers were most highly educated was a lie, telling the public these were isolated instances of trainer error was a lie, and all their actions and area tions made me think of wts.. trainers were typically not marine biologist but just young eager excellent swimmers.

cultBgone

I saw this on Netflix a few weeks ago and it was disturbing and made me hate SeaWorld. They do everything for $$$ and could care less about the health of the wondrous creatures they enslave. It does sound like the wts business model, doesn't it?

Hoping they close all these down one day soon.

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Putting on the NEW "New Personality"

by stuckinarut2 in

we have often heard about the need to "put on the 'new personality'" as a jw.... but i have realised something in these last few years of awakening to the ttatt...i dont like what i had become as a 'good' jw!.

i realised that being a 'good' jw made me very:.

critical of my fellow man,.

cultBgone

Stuck, I look back on who I became as a jw pioneer and it makes me sick. I am embarrassed to have labeled and avoided good people. I am embarrassed that I ever tried to start studies in the crazy jw books. Mostly i am sad that I raised my kids in the cult.

But...I am much nicer now! So happy to be away from the nonsense. Gets better every day!

(((hugs)))

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Raising kids - JW mother, agnostic father

by Zana in

my wife and i have two wonderful children aged 1 and 3. i was raised as a lutheran but stopped believing in my late teen years.

my wife is what i would call a liberal jw (yes, i believe such people exist .

sooner or later our children will have questions about religion and the differences mom and dad show towards it.

cultBgone

Zana, welcome!

Even though your wife is a jw, you don't want your children to learn anything from these folks. It seems a common belief for non-believing parents in religiously-divided families to feel that the religous parent can provide a balanced view of the bible, and with some religions that may be true. Most major religions might be able to focus on Jesus and "love thy neighbor" for example.

Not the jws. They long ago left Jesus in the dust, and their idea of loving their neighbor is to get them to join the cult. They actually discourage members from assisting charities and disaster relief (unless it's to help jws only). They discourage ANY association with those who are not jw and label them in a negative sense, calling them "worldly". That's negative because they teach that "Satan is the ruler of the world!" and that anyone who is not a baptized jw is worldly and under satanic control. So kids aren't supposed to hang out with schoolmates or non-jw relatives because they might get drawn into satan's world and leave the "loving protection of god's earthly organization."

Your children will not learn nice bible stories or morals inside the kh. What they will learn is to label and look down upon everyone who is not a jw. They will learn that their obedience belongs not to their mom and dad but to the "governing body" of jws. They will learn distorted views of the world and its residents. There is no "all religions have good in them" thought in jw-land. They will learn that anyone who was a jw but decides to leave is to be labeled "apostate" and to be shunned forever. Even though your wife may be somewhat liberal, this is what is being taught continually at her kh. There is no deviation or personal opinion inside.

Imagine the possiblity of a future where your child has become a baptized jw and is very active. The child may take a stricter approach than mom and feel that they cannot go to your parents house for xmas any more. How would that make you feel? What would that do to your family? It can happen because children raised as jws sometimes take a stronger stand than the parents.

This is not just another religion. This is a highly-structured and tightly-run cult. Once you are in, it is extremely difficult to get out. You are told what to think, what to believe, how to dress, what activities you may openly enjoy, what movies you should (not) watch, and that all other religions are satan's and they will be destroyed (but not the jws, haha, they will watch the bloody horrific destruction and then get the earth all to themselves). You are also taught that god hates anyone who is not heterosexual. The only love they teach is conditional love. If you fall out of line with the jw teachings because they don't match what Jesus taught, for example, you will be cast aside. You are only allowed to believe specifically what their publications say. They say that other religions pick out scriptures to support their beliefs, yet the jws make up their own bible which twists the scriptures to make them support jw teachings. All other bibles are bad and you are not to bring one to the kh.

There's no universal rule that children need to attend a church. I'm certain that you are 100% qualified to teach them about love and respect, treating others with kindness, and learning unconditional love. You don't need a bible for that. You are the person best qualified to train them as you've seen both sides of the argument. Please, please don't allow them to learn anything from the wts. You and your children are probably treated kindly as the jws want you all to join. Please don't allow your children to attend meetings! They will be much, much better off going to the park with dad.

I so wish I had known how bizarre this religion cult was before I encouraged my own children to be raised as jws. It seemed harmless enough back then, because I thought my children needed a religion too. Now I have one adult child who believes the jws are more important than family. Don't let it happen to your precious little ones. Don't let it happen to you. There will be less trauma for them if they stay away. If you allow them to go and be indoctrinated, you will suffer heartache the remainder of your life.

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What do you do when your job makes you wanna puke your face off?

by Julia Orwell in

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friends

i'm talking like makes you physically sick and emotionally frazzled just thinking about it.

i'm talking like you hate it to the point you'd rather go without than work at it just for the money.

you'd live on cheap korean packet noodles for the next year instead of exchanging your labor for this job's money.. well, this is how i feel about teaching and tutoring.

cultBgone

Julia, sounds like you indeed need a break. Your body is telling you so.

Rather than worrying about the future, could you make the decision to take at least one or two months off and RELAX? If you have some savings, use them to benefit yourself at this important time.

Continuing to do anything that makes you physically ill won't improve your life but will make it worse. Taking time for yourself at home seems a better choice than continuing to struggle and ending up ill, or even unable to work at all. It doesn't matter that other well-meaning people tell you their job is worse, or they think your job is great, because they aren't in your skin.

Give yourself permission to breathe, dear girl! It's okay. You're allowed. You need time to heal.

When you feel better, perhaps you could find work to do from home, which allows you more control over your life. Lots of options, but put that aside for now and focus on YOU.

Lots and lots of ((((((((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))))))) and wishes for peace in your heart.