berry, thanks for the laugh!
See, there is choice for cult-seekers.
Alcohol and caffeine users, join JW's.
Abstainers, join these guys.
Same cult playbook, probably marketed by the same consulting company.
this is funny and yet so spot on.
i bet this could be substituted almost directly with jw 'loving' discipline.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpcznoummys.
berry, thanks for the laugh!
See, there is choice for cult-seekers.
Alcohol and caffeine users, join JW's.
Abstainers, join these guys.
Same cult playbook, probably marketed by the same consulting company.
after years of hard work and study, former bethel boy snare & racket is now officially a medical doctor.. his story is an inspiration that there can be life after the watchtower.
he has given me permission to post his graduation picture.. .
I agree with Skeeter, best news of the day! Thanks for posting, cofty, and CONGRATULATIONS to our dear Snare!
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20141001/gods-kingdom-prophecy-1/.
this has got to be a joke.
anyone with half a brain would destroy the logical fallicies in this article.
I'm sorry, I tried to read this on jw.org but my eyes glazed over once I started reading. I copied and pasted it to a Word doc but it will probably take some alcoholic fortitude to get through it at a later time.
It does read like one of the five-minute "plays" we used to detest writing for our parts on the "school". A five-minute play could be squeezed onto one page if you used a smallish size 9 font. This thing drones on for six pages and 2000ish words, which means the fictional householder Jon endured roughly 30 minutes of this drivel on his doorstep. Oh, that's right, "brothers" aren't limited to 5 minutes to prove a false bible teaching, my bad.
i am pretty sure it has been discussed before here, but i just wanted to express how repulsive it is to me to see all that jw.org worship.. after looking at this picture, can you tell me where the jws are heading to?.
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it makes me want to vomit.. cheers..
Phizz, what a perfect analogy. Can't wait to see it.
don't know if this has been covered before, but who noticed that at every talk at the district convention (mine anyway), every speaker was introduced by name and then 'brother x has been serving for 25 years as a pioneer" or "he has served on the branch committee" etc etc.. what is it with these credentials?
i've been an elder on and off for most of the last twenty years.
big deal.
They are, and always have been, about Labels.
Even calling each other Brother and Sister is an announcement of self-perceived pious-ness.
Now the really important labels mention the gb (grand borgians).
Sad that those still believing have had their ability to objectively reason on such things surgically removed.
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/richard_dawkins_defends_mild_pedophilia_says_it_does_not_cause_lasting_harm/.
All arguments aside...
No one who has been abused in any fashion can possibly know whether it affected them adversely or not. Everything that happens to us makes an imprint on our brain, therefore we can have no idea of who we might have become had the abuse not happened.
if there was a pill you could give to your jw family members that would awaken their eyes to the truth about the cult, would you give it to them?.
most would probably say yes.. but what about those who are completely institutionalized, the elderly, the super zealous, the geeky kids who have no friends, the misfits?.
some people need "boundaries", they need someone to lead and give them directions, they need a sense of belonging, even in an organization that has no social programs.
I have to agree with OTWO. Who among us doesn't regret not knowing TTATT sooner? The less of a lovely life wasted inside a cult, the better. As for the elderly, they will still have each other as friends. And they won't be leaving all their monetary wealth to the borg.
i have some questions about nathan knorr, the third president (1942-1977) of the wtbts.
accurate answers are welcome.. 1) how did it come about that knorr was made president of the wtbts in 1942 after the death of joseph rutherford?
rutherford as we know was an usurper inheritor of russell's wtbts in late 1916 after russell went to his reward.
Bttt
in the last 6 months my family and i have stopped attending cold turkey.
it is incredible to me to see how our so called friends have dropped us like we were a snake covered in spiders.
we actually havent really said anything to anybody about why we stopped.
Skinned, congratulations! Much love to your family. You have a bright future ahead!
these 2 options are before me right now-.
1. write a letter to the elders and my family, not da myself but basically saying i have too much going on in my life and am confused, so that they will stop bothering my wife and stop asking me questions all the time.
after i write the letter continue to go to the hall less and less.... 2. appease my wife.
I agree: NOTHING IN WRITING. It's the same as handing your enemy a box of bullets.
Using scriptures to debate still brings on the "A" label, so if you go that route you must be inordinately calm and not appear to be upset. Just ask her opinion on the discrepancy and see where she takes it.
UNSEEN made-up illnesses are the best. Migraines bring on great sympathy (perhaps triggered by mold in the kh ductwork? someone's perfume?). Irritable bowel or repeated bouts of diarrhea bring instant sympathy. Depression is a hands-off area for the elders so that works if you are not overly cheerful.
Best wishes for your fade/withdrawal journey!