Don't see them around much as there are no areas for them to place their stands near my workplace. Never see them out shopping or dining.
Mostly I feel sad that they are wasting their lives.
Still haven't answered the door for elders but maybe in the future...naaah, I won't. Would just be a waste of my time and energy as they don't give a whit about me personally and never did. I was only useful as a pioneer dumb enough to have kids pioneering too.