Posts by Separation of Powers

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Why Did the Governing Body Change Their Interpretation Of Matthew 24:45-47?

by Cameron_Don in

jw
friends

some have wondered if "captives of a concept" had anything to do with why the governing body changed their interpretation of the most important scripture in their theology at their annual meeting on october 6, 2012.. this is because the book places great emphasis on the societys interpretation of matthew 24:45-47 and then holds them to it while examining the organizations history to make sure that went on in its history fits their interpretation.

this comparison is essential to the societys claim to being gods organization.. their previous interpretation came from their former most imminent bible scholar president frederick franzs in his "gods kingdom of a thousand years has approached.

" their history comes from their "jehovahs witnesses proclaimers of gods kingdom.".

Separation of Powers

Thank you for the insightful post. There are many things that spur on the type of changes we have seen over the past few years. I believe that "Captives" may indeed have had some effect. I believe, moreso, that there is a single element that has had more to do with these changes than anything else....Narcissism. That's right...I said it. These GB believe that THEY are the fulfillment of prophecy. They must believe that Jah's timetable was simply waiting for each of them to be added to the mix. Kind of like when all the planets align in some hollywood type sci-fi movie. When that happens, bad things are gonna take place.

I encourage everyone to examine the history of the Borgia's and the Rovere's in Italy during Michelangelo, particularly as it relates to their belief about being destined by God to see prophecy fulfilled through them. Interesting similarities with this GB's mindset.

SOP

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LOL!!!! HA!!HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

by DATA-DOG in

we get so engrossed in discussions during the family worship evening that it often goes on till late at night if i dont stop my family, .

hahahahahahahahahahah hehehe hahahah!!!!!!.

lol!!!

Separation of Powers

Funny, we had a family in our hall that said almost the exact same thing...several weeks ago a couple of them were DF'd for heaven knows what.....It's all smoke and mirrors baby! Smoke and mirrors!

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"No more money, not one red cent!"

by Separation of Powers in

once you recognize that the contributions you gave for the upkeep of your place of worship have been given to the corporation and will only be used to upkeep your place of worship at their discretion...the caption will become your mantra!.

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sop.

Separation of Powers

Once you recognize that the contributions you gave for the upkeep of your place of worship have been given to the corporation and will only be used to upkeep your place of worship at their discretion...the caption will become your mantra!

SOP

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Society money grab tonight

by Red Piller in

wow.

you read about it here.

but, it still doesn't prepare you.. our hall passed a resolution to give about 15,000 to the wt.

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I would venture to say that they are expecting a decision on the Conti case soon....

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Are Elders Mandated Reporters or not? (California)

by awakenyr2004 in

i know clergy are mandated here in california but are elders considered clergy?.

father is on drugs and since confessed.

" father of the year, right!

Separation of Powers

I believe that California is a required report State. It will be difficult for the average long-time elder to get their head around this. Abuse, all abuse mind you NOT just sexual, is reportable. In fact, if you have first hand knowledge of their abuse, then ????

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BOE re:Adjusted Process to Accelerate Kingdom Hall Construction

by TTATTelder in

may 12, 2014. to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

re: adjusted process to accelerate kingdom hall construction.

dear brothers:.

Separation of Powers

So the local KH "rainy day fund" is no more. Congregation expenses for three months and MAYBE a 5K reserve. This is brilliant. Get rid of the DO's, make the CO's solely responsible. Tell the CO's to "remind" the congregations of the arrangement. Liquidate accounts and send to the ORG.

Pure genius!

Old timers who grew up with the "save for a rainy day" mentality will not like this. New ones will stop giving based on the announcement that the majority of the reserves were sent directly to the ORG. Me thinks this will backfire

SOP

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Is there a unwritten statute of limitations

by Clambake in

my friend who is 60 and has been out for 15 years just started to attend a baptist church.

both his parents have passed on and he figures he wants to get back into his spiritity and bible.

he lives in a community of 20,000 people.

Separation of Powers

Being part of the ORG is like having a really bad tattoo that has penetrated the subcutaneous layer of fat below the skins surface. It can never be undone. Yes, you can remove the tattoo, but the scars are there and a faint but perceptible image still lay beneath the surface.

The ORG is like the tattoo artist, half-drunk and not-so-steady of hand who sees the scar and reminds you that you had a tattoo there. In fact, he opens a binder full of polaroids or instamatic shots of the tattoo and says, "You had a tattoo there right?" He never forgets. He never forgets.

It's like the Eagles said, "You can check out, but you can never leave."

SOP

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JW.BORG

by Separation of Powers in

funny how well that goes together.. interesting that several months ago people were fearful to bring their pc tablets to the hall for fear that others would judge them for their "showy display" now to see most everyone, even the tikes, with a tablet.

i can hear those little tykes now with the veruca salt voice of the old willy wonka movie, "daddy, i want a new ipad.

get me an ipad daddy!

Separation of Powers

Hey Barbara,

Glad to see someone's gonna use it...By the way, your new website is quite impressive, keep up the good work. You have helped a LOT of people.

SOP

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"Those with Special Needs"

by Separation of Powers in

jw
friends

so, we all remember the old "special needs room request" form from the old district convention arrangement.

those with accomodations in bigger cities where the district assemblies were being held would provide a room within their homes to house brothers with nominal resources.

at times, however, where these accomodations were unavailable, the congregation itself would put up the funds to assist brothers with the cost of the room (on the list).

Separation of Powers

So, we all remember the old "special needs room request" form from the old District Convention arrangement. Those with accomodations in bigger cities where the District Assemblies were being held would provide a room within their homes to house brothers with nominal resources. At times, however, where these accomodations were unavailable, the congregation itself would put up the funds to assist brothers with the cost of the room (on the list).

So now, here we are with JW.org and the need to access it in order to fully acquire wisdom. It is being promoted throughout the world as the tool to gain accurate knowledge. What about those with special needs though? Those that cannot afford the price of even a cheap tablet? Where do they go? What do they do? I say, someone should recommend a "special needs tablet request" form. The congregation Service Committee can scrutinize the individual requests, verify that the person making the request is in "good standing" without the propensity to look at "improper material" on the Internet, etc. Then, after approving the request, the form could be sent to the ORG where funds from the WWW can be used to provide this life-saving tablet to the needy bro or sis. There could be a list of "approved" tablets whose names are not in some way related to pagan rituals or who don't help subsidize Christendom.

Good idea?

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JW.BORG

by Separation of Powers in

funny how well that goes together.. interesting that several months ago people were fearful to bring their pc tablets to the hall for fear that others would judge them for their "showy display" now to see most everyone, even the tikes, with a tablet.

i can hear those little tykes now with the veruca salt voice of the old willy wonka movie, "daddy, i want a new ipad.

get me an ipad daddy!

Separation of Powers

Funny how well that goes together.

Interesting that several months ago people were fearful to bring their PC tablets to the hall for fear that others would judge them for their "Showy display" now to see most everyone, even the tikes, with a tablet. I can hear those little tykes now with the Veruca Salt voice of the old Willy Wonka movie, "Daddy, I want a new iPad. Get me an iPad daddy! I want it NOW!" I mean, when the kid grows up and walks away from the organization, they will more than likely say, "My parents didn't get me an iPad, so I couldn't access JW.org and for that reason I never made the truth my own...."

To see all these people with their tablets jumping from book to bible in PDF format...I really wonder. They have become part of the collective. They are truly becoming BORGlike.

SOP