That is a letter that sums up everything about the organization! I could never write a letter like that because my brain is fried from being in so long. Many thanks for sharing I will keep this letter to remind me how logic can break down walls of lies and cover-ups.
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Over 4 months, still no response to this letter to the elders!
by Greybeard inhi everyone, its been over 4 months and i have not heard a response from the elders.
i called one of them a few weeks back.
he said they sent it to bethel and haven't heard back yet.
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Interesting moment on subway today & other thoughts
by sd-7 ini was heading home today, and i saw one woman reading a new world translation.
we made eye contact, but i hope i didn't glare at her or anything... since i was already having a bout with depression today, it didn't help to see her.
so then she gets off the train, right?
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Hi SD-7 I bet the jws on the train are pioneers counting time! One gets on while one has coffee break then switchover.I know of pios who went to the cinema and left tracts on the seats and counted their time. Sounds like you could do with some friends "outside". Lots of great advice here on how to do that.
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Anyone here get DF or DA as part of a plan, with family in? Was it worth the heartache?
by awakening ini just wonder sometimes if i got found out and got dfd for my views on the society, how would i feel?
i often think to myself that it would be a huge relief, no more pretense!
but then the other side of the coin is the family still in.
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I just wonder sometimes if I got found out and got DFd for my views on the society, how would I feel? I often think to myself that it would be a huge relief, no more pretense! But then the other side of the coin is the family still in. The shock the tears the shunning. Did anyone here do that with success?
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Cornwall,Lady who called Nigel on phone please get in touch again
by cornish insorry,the lady who called me last night,st.
austell, i was going to retrieve your number with 1471 but someone rang straight after so i lost it,it's nigel,not sure if you still use this forum,sorry i was a bit busy with the children at the time you called,i did not even get your mame..
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Hi Cornish,
yep born and raised in Bodmin. I recall visiting your Mum I think out in the wilds! I remember cause i got bit by the dog lol.
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Cornwall,Lady who called Nigel on phone please get in touch again
by cornish insorry,the lady who called me last night,st.
austell, i was going to retrieve your number with 1471 but someone rang straight after so i lost it,it's nigel,not sure if you still use this forum,sorry i was a bit busy with the children at the time you called,i did not even get your mame..
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Hi Cornish,
I am from Cornwall too! I think I knew your family when I was a kid.
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The moment the light went on in this newbies head!
by awakening ini always knew as a kid tt wasnt for me.
i did not know ttatt but how could something thats supposed to be warm, loving and beneficial feel so wrong?
the light went on when i happened to be watching some chat show that had a family of white supremecists on.
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I always knew as a kid TT wasnt for me. I did not know TTATT but how could something thats supposed to be warm, loving and beneficial feel so wrong? The light went on when I happened to be watching some chat show that had a family of white supremecists on. By all appearances this family were well mannered and looked like the model family unit. The daughter was aged 9 or ten and came out with a statment that left me speechless. She was asked how she interacted with black children her age. She said that they would not associate with them but would politely refuse any social interaction with them, they would remain seperate. The audiance gasped at this revelation. It seemed so wrong to me that a child this age was tought this kind of philosophy.
But hang on a minute! was I not using the exact same rhetoric in my life as a young witness along with many thousands of witness children around the world?
I mentioned this programme to an elder on the ministry a few days later and he said he was appalled that such a young kid as this example could hold such a view, wasnt the world advancing from bad to worse! I didnt have the courage to point out the obvious!
The next lightbulb moment happened years later involving a serial abuser in our hall. I do not yet have the courage to write about that awful episode... soon.
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Newbie - I need advice!
by awakening inwell here it is, my first post!
it feels like a huge step like the point of no return.
i am a born in, still in wanting to get out ms. i have refused eldership, used to pioneer and have sooo many stories.
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Loads of great advice! Thanks again. I have found it so tough giving talks lately too Phizzy. The C.O. Said he thought i had lost my sparkle last talk i gave. I have an away public talk next month - oh dear!
From what you guys are saying it would help to encourage my wife with "worldly friendships" I think this could work. The big problem is that as good obedient witneeses we never had children. Her nieces still in will surely prevent any progress away from the hall?
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Newbie - I need advice!
by awakening inwell here it is, my first post!
it feels like a huge step like the point of no return.
i am a born in, still in wanting to get out ms. i have refused eldership, used to pioneer and have sooo many stories.
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Thank you all for your welcome and support. Its amazing to be on the receiving end of sincere comments. I am so sorry to hear of some of the struggles you guys have gone/go through. I think this forum is just an amazing place and is providing me with" food at the proper time."
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Newbie - I need advice!
by awakening inwell here it is, my first post!
it feels like a huge step like the point of no return.
i am a born in, still in wanting to get out ms. i have refused eldership, used to pioneer and have sooo many stories.
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Thank you all for your welcome and support. Its amazing to be on the receiving end of sincere comments. I am so sorry to hear of some of the struggles you guys have gone/go through. I think this forum is just an amazing place and is providing me with" food at the proper time."
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Newbie - I need advice!
by awakening inwell here it is, my first post!
it feels like a huge step like the point of no return.
i am a born in, still in wanting to get out ms. i have refused eldership, used to pioneer and have sooo many stories.
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Well here it is, my first post! It feels like a huge step like the point of no return. I am a born in, still in wanting to get out ms. I have refused eldership, used to pioneer and have sooo many stories. My wife is still in and has no idea how i feel about TT. She knows i have struggled with child abuse policy since an event at our hall that defied belief. The most important relationship to me is the one i have with my wife. The advice i need is how do i exit without damaging that relationship?
I already feel bad for living the lie- pretending to be in. The option of staying in has become intolerable to me, i find the meetings sicken me to the pit of my stomach! I have long known that TT wasnt for me but now i know TTATT i feel such a hypocrite attending and pretending. Hypocricy was one of my greatest bugbears with the society. My family are all in and i think i could face the guilt trips from them if i fade, but what about my wife?
Any ideas or personal experiences would be appreciated. BTW it feels great to speak with complete freeness of speach here, probably one of the first times in my witness life!