Posts by wannahelp

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MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

by hawkaw in

as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

wannahelp

Are you referring to my not knowing that Barry was both, or that is just another lie???

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HOW TO FIND THE WTS UN THREAD

by hawkaw in

( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=13530&site=3

wannahelp

Fred, you devil you :-)

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Judicial Committee "assists" another ...

by Billygoat in

jw
friends

mom: the elders are led by god's holy spirit.

mom: don't go there andi.. andi: what?

mom: andi, i'm going to hang up the phone if you go there.. andi: mom!

wannahelp

Uhhh,

I have to admit this, and if later someone reminds me of it, I'll deny it...

At one point with my friend, I was seriously thinking of telling him..

"Look buddy, I love ya and you will always be my friend, and I'll always be here if you really need me, but I follow god, and only god.. You follow men, and my god (via the bible, show him the scriptures) said that I should get away from people not of my sort.. You understand, it's nothing personal, I do love you... But I cannot associate with you.. Maybe occasionally we can eat together, or if you ever get stuck and need a ride home or something, feel free to give me a call, but my relationship with god is more important than our friendship.. I'll see you in heaven"..

Ok, OK.. I felt bad even thinking it then, and I feel bad saying it now, as I know it's not his fault that he believes as he does.. He has been 'brainwashed' into thinking the way he does, and he didn't even have a choice.. He was born into (oops, sorry, they like to say Raised) it... He deserves my unconditional love more than anyone I know!!! But it was good to 'think' of it, if only for a moment or two!!!

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MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

by hawkaw in

as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

wannahelp

Hawk;

You are correct, there is a difference between the Chair and the directors (or Prez)..

mY point was that in Crisis of Conscience, Ray Franz had stated that the GB decided that the GB and directos should NOT be the same people, so the GB could concentrate on the "Spiritual" <Gag, cough, choke> stuff while the Directors and Prez concentrate on the "corporate matters"..

For instance, if we recall our wonderful "Mr. Gilles" letter to Mr. Bates, you'll remember that Mr Gilles said:

"One of our legal corporations .... blah blah blah....

Un-beknown to the Governing Body...... "

Well, if our buddy Barry was BOTH on the GB and the PREZ, how could Mr. Gilles state that the worldly corporation knew about it, but the GB didn't???

I thought that Barry as on the GB, but wasn't part of the corporation per say...

Now that I know he's both (Maybe I'm kinda slow, and we knew this already) it adds even one more lie to Mr. Gilles statements!!! As that would be impossible!!!!!

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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER

by You Know in

jw
friends

perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.

as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.

since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.

wannahelp

That's it..

Joelbear proved it..

No change between pre Sept 11 and Post Sept 11 :-)

If a dollar is worth a dollar today, and it was worth a dollar back in 1940, and it will still be worth a dollar in 20 years, where's all the inflation the Government is talking about? I think it's just a conspiracy !!! <laugh>..

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MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

by hawkaw in

as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

wannahelp

messenger:

Instead of calling it the "truth" book, howabout the

"How do we hide this one too" book...

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MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

by hawkaw in

as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

wannahelp

Hey,

I remember reading somewhere (I think it was Ray's CoC book) that the GB decided to split the GB and corporation directors apart, so the GB could do it's "spiritual" <gag, choke> work without having to worry about the "worldy corporation"..

If Barry was a member of the GB (the only title of which is GB member, or Chairman when the rotation appointed him chair) then why was he also the VP and Prez?

Unless I read that wrong, I guess they didn't do as much seperating as they said they were gonna do..

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MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

by hawkaw in

as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

wannahelp

Hey Hawk,

What can I say..

You da man!

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MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

by hawkaw in

as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

wannahelp

Tha scanned pages do not appear.

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UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS

by MacHislopp in

following the link given by kent,.

i have several observation to make:.

(from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).

wannahelp

Hi Seigswife:

You said

"The proof that this is a lie is in their literature. How are they going to deny the obvious softening of attitute, and even outright promotion, of the UN and its agencies that has been taking place for the past several years in Awake? I think they understood perfectly what they were expected to do."

I couldn't agree more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It would be interesting to point out to a JW the "kind words" to the UN in the awake of the last 10 years, then contrast that with all the "evil" they point out in the WT over the past 10 years, and then ask them which one of God's magazines do we believe? Because he is giving mixed messages, and talking out of both sides of his mouth here.. Why would GOD stumble me so???

Did God tell you to start talking nicely about all the good that the Catholic Church has done? Show me one article in the Awake! or WT that points to the good that Catholic Church does? After all, the Catholic Church supports Unicef and most of those other things as well..