Posts by villagegirl

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Not meaning to sound sexist : In general are women more emotional/feel good about religion,and men more proof/doctrinal in their acceptance ?

by smiddy in

i`m just speaking from my own experience here ,and it has occured to me that over the 33 years i was a witness and in the six congrgations i was a part of , except for a few exceptions, the majority of sisters in the congregations did not have a grasp of the so called deeper things of god,according to wt theology, sure they could run off " bible topics for discussion" sermons but very few could take a discussion any further than that.whereas i was aware that males seemed more likely to delve deeper into, not only the scriptures,but also the wt interpretations as a whole.

don`t get me wrong a few women left me for dead in their comprehension of topics ,but i`m just saying overall i found this to be the case ... my experience... smiddy.

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villagegirl

Accepting women as intellectual and spiritual and social equals is

practically impossible for many men, these men tend to have little education.

Thinking women are inferior is the mindset of men who like to think

of themselves as "spiritual men". There are comments on this site about women

"not being able to understand the deep things of God" How Taliban !!

These men really do believe women are inferior to men. I remember

when the WT used to try to use examples of "nature" birds and animals
to demonstrate the inferior position of women.

When in fact in animals of all sorts
the females often rule and lead.

And in many species sex is interchangeable in that
the creature can be male the first half of its life and female the last half.

Parthenogenesis is a process by which females reproduce young without the fertilization
from any male, and this works in mammals also. All that is required is for the egg to split
and it will begin to develop another individual, this can be done by piercing the egg with
an instrument in a petri dish. In other words men are no relevant to reproduction at all.

The history of women and their suppression is so recent, even in the "advanced" Western cultures, evidence by the fact that as recently as the nineteen sixties 1960's women were not accepted into MIT ( famous technical school for the uneducated males here ) or most engineering schools

or even the I.vy League universities, ( that would be Yale, Harvard ? )to compete alongside men.

When they were finally let in they exceeded the men in all areas of study.

So this is what they had feared for so many hundreds of years ?

I think what happens when a man has the belief that women are inferior, he marries a woman of
lower intelligence and little education to convince himself all women are limited. He dumbs down his own life.
I noticed many women in KH who liked the dumbed down roles they were in, as if it "protected" them.

Being "taken care of" in a limited life worked for some, who like to be useless, but for single women and mothers
having no skills or education led only to grinding poverty, which was worn like a badge of virtue in KH

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Do we have a new end of the world date?

by cptkirk in

what is the jw stance currently?

that we are just in the "end times" ,but we don't have any pyramid measurements or anything?

oh you speak bad things you judge.

villagegirl

A sleeping black child, Larsinger? Really? How about this larsinger, Read to book of Jonah. In the book of Jonah Jehovahs sends Jonah to preach absolute destruction on Ninevah, every man woman and child and all the animals to wiped out. Then , Larsinger, Jehovah changed his mind. Changed his mind. Think about it. He changed his mind based on the behavior of the people. They changed and He changed the outcome for them. Jonah did not like that. Read the Book of Jonah

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Whatever happened to these prophecys . Zech. 8:23 / Isa..60 :22 .Do they ever refer to it now ?

by smiddy in

zech.

"this is what jehovah of armies has said...."it will be in those days that ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold ,yes they will actually take hold of the skirt of a man who is a jew saying:"we will go with you people,for we have heard that god is with you people ".. this was a scripture that was presented to me, that i was fullfilling bible prophecy , when i first became interested in jw`s and of course all other studies,baptisms that were occuring at that time .and the clincher of course was,.

isa.60:22 the little one himself will become a thousand and the small one a mighty nation.i myself jehovah,shall speed it up in it`s own time .. and i`m talking now about the early 1960`s.

villagegirl

The internet is on satellite even villagers in India and China are getting Smart Phones. In Africa villagers amd microeconomics are having common villagers build Solar Panels and then they have electricity, and a village computer room, its changing selling fish in small villages on the coats of India, to remote access in Arab countries. Oppressive Arab countries have their own versions of this site for free speech. The Chinese people are always find ways round government oppression. Jordan has free speech, so does Lebanon, Saudia Arabia, turns a blind eye unless your on the street making a spectacle. Syria and Iraq are obviously experiencing dissodents. Egypt is the hub of the Arab World and it was part of the uprisings all along the northern Mediterranean African coast, all in Arab countries. Economic re-colonization of islamic Africa brings technolgy with it. There are 500 Million? Christians in Africa , thats more than in the USA . Americans tend to see themselves as the hub of the universe. There are over 2 Billion Christians in the World, nearly twice the number of Muslims.

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Why are Ex-JW's not more effective in slaying the Watchtower monster?

by Terry in

what the watchtower society has is focus.

what ex-jw's lack is that very thing...in spades.. .

divide and conquer, eh?

villagegirl

Some people seek to be controlled. To be 'taken care of'.

Some people stay in bad marriages, where there is no honest communication.

Or only a series of daily rituals. This is a substitute for meaning, all about the appearances

and approval of others. The perfect little family, the obedient wife, the man as breadwinner.

Its about feeling safe. Feeling righteous is a big draw. We have the Truth. We have the Faithful and Discreet Slave,

"we have stuff you don't have", is the message. Janitors get to buy suits to wear, and be "elders" and go to secret meetings,

and reprove people, or threaten them. No education is required. Just be male.

Old men can choose very young uneducated wives, just like Mormons.

You get to feel superior to those who are not following rules or weak in attendence

or not coming dressed up enough to meetings.

Then there is the ongoing "mystery" of the mysterious eight men who are the 'sole channel of communication to God'

No need to put in effort there either. Why try to establish some personal relationship with Jeus ?

He is practically an outsider. Barely refered to. Wasn't he just some angel ? One of many ?

Never mind it says Jesus is the only name by which men are saved,

and that there are dozens of Hebrew names for God himself.

We are "special" so well dressed. Look at our clothes, our shoes, our hairdos.

And we are so pleasant. Never mind that there are injustices all around,

we ignored Apartheid, the early WT never mentioned the injustices of slavery,

or starving millions worldwide except to say "see we told you so" Poverty ?

No problem, go on welfare, get subsidized housing, food stamps,

complain its not due to the fact we never aquired any skills,

or actual professions, its all the other people's fault, we are just victims.

And if you have a nepotistic, group of brothers, business, and are rich, you can look down on the poor.

You will be elevated in the congregation for just being rich.

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Women: Are they Equal to Men ?

by villagegirl in

jw
friends

one of the hard core doctrines of the wt society, and many other religions, is that women are to be in "subjection" to men.. in the bible, in genisis , it says the domination of women by men came after adam and eve disobeyed god.

eve was cursed by pain in childbirth and that from then on as a curse: "he shall rule over you " from then on the male was to dominate the female.. but that was not in the original plan.

this was a reversal of the plan and a curse.

villagegirl

By EQUAL I mean women are exactly what the Hebrew word means, men with a womb. Not lesser in brain size. Or "ability"

Women can do higher math as well as men, they can design, and create.

They can be Brain Surgeons, Computer Programmers, Engineers, or Artists.

They were restricted by laws and customs.

A woman designed the LA freeway systems.

Women were oppressed even in the 1960's when MIT and Many universities did not allow them entrance

to thes all male sanctuaries. PAUL said women should not wear jewelry, and cover there heads etc,

but Paul ALSO said "Slaves be in subjection to your Masters", which was used by White Male "Christian"

slaveholders in the USA for 300 years to enslave generation after generation

of black families and sell them like property and use them to do all their work.

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Women: Are they Equal to Men ?

by villagegirl in

jw
friends

one of the hard core doctrines of the wt society, and many other religions, is that women are to be in "subjection" to men.. in the bible, in genisis , it says the domination of women by men came after adam and eve disobeyed god.

eve was cursed by pain in childbirth and that from then on as a curse: "he shall rule over you " from then on the male was to dominate the female.. but that was not in the original plan.

this was a reversal of the plan and a curse.

villagegirl

Jesus said he would " Restore all things when he returned" Like kill Satan, restore women to

their natural position as leaders, things like that.

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Women: Are they Equal to Men ?

by villagegirl in

jw
friends

one of the hard core doctrines of the wt society, and many other religions, is that women are to be in "subjection" to men.. in the bible, in genisis , it says the domination of women by men came after adam and eve disobeyed god.

eve was cursed by pain in childbirth and that from then on as a curse: "he shall rule over you " from then on the male was to dominate the female.. but that was not in the original plan.

this was a reversal of the plan and a curse.

villagegirl

Hows this "order of things" working out for you?

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Women: Are they Equal to Men ?

by villagegirl in

jw
friends

one of the hard core doctrines of the wt society, and many other religions, is that women are to be in "subjection" to men.. in the bible, in genisis , it says the domination of women by men came after adam and eve disobeyed god.

eve was cursed by pain in childbirth and that from then on as a curse: "he shall rule over you " from then on the male was to dominate the female.. but that was not in the original plan.

this was a reversal of the plan and a curse.

villagegirl

ORDER OF CREATION ????

The ORDER of CREATION was the inanimate,

the PLANTS the ANIMALS the MALE ( going Upward )

then the PINNACLE of God's Creation, the FEMALE

The Serpant approached her because she was obviously in charge.

Adam excused himself when he was caught by God, by saying " She gave me the fruit."

Since she was in charge this was his understanding. He was only following orders, as he

assumed God would understand. So God cursed the whole human race by REVERSING the

natural logical order of things, and put the confused, arrogant, corporation makers, in charge.

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Women: Are they Equal to Men ?

by villagegirl in

jw
friends

one of the hard core doctrines of the wt society, and many other religions, is that women are to be in "subjection" to men.. in the bible, in genisis , it says the domination of women by men came after adam and eve disobeyed god.

eve was cursed by pain in childbirth and that from then on as a curse: "he shall rule over you " from then on the male was to dominate the female.. but that was not in the original plan.

this was a reversal of the plan and a curse.

villagegirl

One of the hard core doctrines of the WT society, and many other religions, is that women are to be in "subjection" to men.

In the Bible, in Genisis , it says the domination of women by men came after Adam and Eve disobeyed God.

Eve was cursed by pain in childbirth and that from then on as a curse: "He shall rule over you " From then on the male was to dominate the female.

But that was not in the Original Plan. This was a reversal of the plan and a curse. The "curse" on mankind was nailed to the cross ( or stake if you prefer)

The Greek scriptures speak of women in the congregartions who were prophets, women who wer "deacons" or held some position in congrgations

and who were even acknowledged by Paul. There was a women Judge over Israel whole ruled for 40 years, and it was said during her rule there was

peace and properity. She was also a Prophet. Freedom from false teachings such as those that led us into bodage to the WT should include freedom

to accept women as equals.

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"Millions Now Living Will Never Die"

by Ding in

lest we forget -- joseph rutherford, the man who wrote "millions now living will never die," has been dead more than 70 years now....

villagegirl

Blondie: Sorry to correct you, but I researched this original booklet through the Vancouver Public Library and the Library of Congress and for $20 they sent me a complete photocopy of the original pamphlet. The REASON I went to all this trouble was because, sometime in the late 1980's early 1990 ? there was a Watchtower reference to this pamphlet and they said it was entitled, Millions Now Living MAY Never Die. I was baptized in 1957 at 14 years old and I saw original copies the old woman who studied with me had and I remembered the title. When I saw this "re-name" it was the first inkling I had that the WT might possibly be capable of lying. I couldn't believe such a thing, but I also remembered what I saw, and it tortured me. I believe others caught this "mistake" and they then made up this story that the "original" had been titled with the "MAY" and not the emphatic "WILL" to cover their own deception. Of course the pamphlet also talked about 1925 and the "resurrection of the prophets to earth" to lead us, which led to the building of a Mansion in San Diego where Russell was buried under a Pyramid. I have an original, printed by the society, copy of The Finished Mystery as well.