Posts by villagegirl

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DECEPTIVE JW ELDERS - CASE#2

by Amazing in

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friends

deceptive jw elders case#2 .

appointing spiritually qualified men to take the lead and serve as elders and overseers has been a feature of watch tower congregational organization since about 1972. jws were told in talks at conventions, in literature, and finally in the two versions of the organization book that the biblical criteria is used when elders meet to consider some men for appointment as an elder.

jws are also told that these qualified men are already appointed first by holy spirit, and then as the congregation is lead by that spirit to recognize them, the elders meeting is a confirmation of what god has done.

villagegirl

Bluesapphire - So let me get his straight, you were pressuring your

husband to "confess" even after you were married and had children?

And the big sin was; you were sexually attracted to each other and planned

to get married and you touched each other before you got married ?

And his intentions towards you were entirely honorable,

in that he married you. And he is a good father, kind and a good husband ?

But becuase he did not want to "confess" to elders, these WT defined "sins"

( please, where are the scriptures to define what engaged couples can do )

because of this, and not his general character, you think he is "not spiritual" ?

I am no supporter of the this cult, but shouldn't your real concern be that he

would sit in commitee meetings and hear confessions of child molesters

and then not turn them into the police because of WT rules and policy ?

Sounds like he actually might be able to fear God, more than

a sham organization who makes up "rules" as they go along.

In case I am not making myself clear, and apparently I rarely do,

you would have more respect for him if he followed "the rules"

and gave no thought to whether these rules were right or wrong.

And he is really a great man and a good person but spiritual he is NOT!

I have news for you - being a great man and a good person IS being spiritual

"Show me your faith, aside from your works, and

I will show you my faith by my works" James 2:18

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True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

by BluePill2 in

before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

villagegirl

Aunt Fancy - Helping others to do what ?

Blue Pill worked at WT headquarters and knows

of the suppression of criminal sexual child abuse

and the names of the pedophile,

a man who was Circuit Overseer

and also a pedophile who had many child victims.

Blue Pill also knows the men on the Judicial Committee

including the name if the District Overseer involved and

the names of the children and their testimony and evidence and

where this case file was sent and to whom. What do you think

he should do with this information ?

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True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

by BluePill2 in

before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

villagegirl

Elders - Is the Watchtower now telling you to destroy all old evidence ?

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True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

by BluePill2 in

before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

villagegirl

Candice Conti, a 27 year old who recently sued the

Watchtower Society successfully and obtained

a $25 million dollar court ordered settlement

against the WBTS.

The abuse happened almost 20 years ago.

Candice Conti was sexually abused by Jonathan Kendrick.

He was known at the time by the Elders to be a pedophileand

Candice was 9 years old and he took her out door to door,

witnessing and molested her during that service time.

My question is, did he count the time ?

And then the Watchtower could brag about how much zealous

"work" is being done ?

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2012/07/02/landmark_us_verdict_against_jehovahs_witnesses_may_prompt_canadian_sex_abuse_lawsuits.html

Last month, in a landmark ruling, a California jury sided with Conti, ordering the Watchtower to pay nearly $25 million in damages and Kendrick to pay about $3 million.

Conti, who as a sex abuse victim had the right to have her name kept out of the media, chose instead to go public with her case. She deliberately wanted to focus public attention on what she sees as church’s extreme secrecy: elders hushing up victims,

She also alleged the Watchtower had a policy, since 1989, of instructing elders to keep accusations of child sex abuse secret.

According to Simons, documents presented as evidence in the Conti lawsuit proved that elders had been encouraged by the Watchtower not to raise Kendrick’s abusive past. The lawsuit alleged that this silence allowed Kendrick to abuse Conti.

Jehovah’s Witnesses “abhor child abuse and strive to protect children from such acts,” he said. They also reject allegations that the church has a secrecy policy concerning child sex abuse. (Lies)

The Watchtower is lying about its policy and every single Elder HERE and all the over

14,000 readers of this thread, know the WT is not telling the truth about this.

Especially all you Elders, and those who have been

Elders for 20-30 years and who sat in on Judicial Committees

and have yourself been involved in keep secret evidence

of sexual abuse of children. You all , need to come forward

as one, and expose this evil. Only you can do it.

You can do that. Be brave. Be the righteous men, a true Elder,

you present yourselves to be. I know there are many good men here.

Do not fear the WT (this what they are: Deut 18:22)

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True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

by BluePill2 in

before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

villagegirl

ADjusted - I am not sure how your experience relates to American and Mexican

and South American Elders obligation to report sexual abuse.

My brother was in the Attorney General's Office in Guam.

I realize South East Asia is another system entirely.

The Circuit Overseer , Blue Pill mentions a Circuit Overseer,

who was a pedophile, and he may have been and American citizen?

He may be now living in the USA, ten years later.?

We do not know where he is since BluePill2 does not say or

indentify him by name. The point here is, let it be known,

name names and expose these pedophiles wherever they are.

This is not about the child sex trade "in general" It is about the

Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and the Governing Body,

who have a worldwide "secret Elders Manual" that instructs

Elders everywhere to hide this from the police so as not to

embarrass the "Society" . This is WRONG. If you can't see that

may be you have some serious moral problems of your own.

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What Makes A Good Friend?

by krejames in

jw
friends

i just came back from vacation with my sister who is in her mid 40s and is an active jw, regular pioneer of many years.

while away, during one of our conversations, it bacame clear to me that my sister is lonely and doesn't have a social life.

she's too old to be included in the plans of the younger generation and, as she is not married, doesn't get included in the "marrieds" set.

villagegirl

Your sister is in her mid 40's ????

If only she could get out, and find another group, another life.

She has probably never spent any time figuring out her own

basic talents and interests or been with people who just let her BE.

Is there any hope of releasing her from this cult ?

Can you encourage her to involve herself in some non-witness

activities ? Take a pottery class ? A photoography class ?

This is what the WT does, it isolates us from OUR OWN LIFE

and from other people. Can you break the "spell " and free her ?

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Who Will the Circuit Overseers "Report" to Now???

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

i still do not understand the new structure at this point.. there has to be something between thousands of co's and the gb.

i know there were zone overseers that the do's reported to.. i have spoken to a couple of elders i can talk to frankly and they both said they have no idea.. rub a dub.

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villagegirl

JWdaughter - get some pudding and semi-freeze it dear.

I had a Circuit Overseer and his wife eat lunch with me

and it was creepy. I pointed out to him the majority of the

congregation were single moms and fatherless children and

the WT kept portraying us all as "happy two parent families"

and he got severly irritated. They are just men, all of them.

From the top GB down through the ranks. Have you met men ?

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What is your biggest gripe with the WT and it's teachings?

by FL_Panthers in

jw
friends

as the title says, please list what you find annoying with the organization..

villagegirl

Cofty - Really ? Really ?

The most evil doctrine has to be the "faithful and discreet slave" that weak and

self serving interpretation of a simple parable telling us not to bury our talents

to use our life productively, to turn that into an excuse to glorify themselves

and place themselves above all mankind as a "special channel" "mediator" and

telling people it is because of them that the WT is "God's organzation" when

in fact its a society of anti-Christ "organization worshippers" - And all the other

comments on this thread prove this is true.

Wolves in sheeps clothing, Pharisees, Imposters.

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True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

by BluePill2 in

before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

villagegirl

I looked for David Charles Machart, oops I said it again, on the

registered sex offenders site, but he wasn't there. I then called

the dashing, inherited wealthy and 'handsome and knows it',

Elder, Barron Eric Spafford, married with charming wife and

married daughter. Barron said in effect it was old news,

and he is does not have that "sphere of influence"

and is not sure where the original judicial commitee on the

David Machart case were exactly, missing apparently,

said he was in effect, powerless. Baron's main hope was

he would be going to Dubia for a photo shoot to the wealthy.

Eldering is a hobby, I believe. A company man.

His wife has been faithfully highlighting Watchtower articles

for 35 years. Having confused that activity with Christianity.

Charming couple really. Since the Machart case there have been

suicides and all the child molestations he needs to hide from

the congregation and mainly, the police. That takes a special skill,

and more suicides and those kind of bothersome messes the

poor generally generate in the congregation. Best handled by ignoring them.

And lots of shunnings to orchestrate, mine for one, well you know,

the work of Jehovah's people and his organization, led by the Governing Body.

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True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

by BluePill2 in

before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

villagegirl

I did not mention the names of the victims.

I gave you the name of the Molester, this was

a sensation in Santa Barbara when it happened, in that

every witness I knew knew about it. And it was 30 years ago

and they announced why you were being disfellowshipped

in those days. The victims were not males no "him" involved

except the perpetrator , the father of five who molested his girls.

Naming the Molestors is a way to protect other children.

If a moderator wants to take down that particular post they can.

I cannot now modify it and remove the mother's name, but she

should have reported it as well to the police and did not.

The Elders in Santa Barbara, many of them invlved 30 years ago

are serving as active Elders to this day and are well known.

They should have reported David Machart / molester,

to the police and did not do so at the explicit instructions of the

Governing Body and its secret Elder's Handbook of Rules.