Posts by villagegirl

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Life for me as a jw (not really) teenager

by DuvanMuvan in

hey i joined this thread recently and thought this was a good way to introduce myself.

i am 15, still going to school and i live in the uk.

a good chunk of my mum's side of the family are jws.

villagegirl

I don't think your mother is "spiritually weak" that is a derogatory put down invented by

the WT to describe any person who is not a complete unquestioning, lock-step, insensitive,

submissive. Your mother is obviously paying attention to your anxiety about participating

in WT rituals you do not really believe in. Your mother loves you, I believe, MORE than she

she loves the "Governing Body" and she might be able to see some day, the false doctrines

of the "two classes" and the false Anti-Christ claims of the "Governing Body" that THEY are

the "sole channel of communication between man and God" They make meaningless, the

existance of Christ as Mediator and the freedom we are supposed to have to approach God

without any man, or group of men, or Priests or Popes or Governing Bodies, or intervention.

Ask her to show you where the word "Organization" appears in the Bible.

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Incredible busy-work from the Governing Body!!!!

by DATA-DOG in

the ever faithful and discreet slave has provided a bountiful season of busy-work for the next 3-4 months!!

memorial season ( the last??

lol!!!

villagegirl

More like a classic MLM, multi level maketing, where you pretend its about "the product"

but its really about selling memberships and only the guys at the top, reap any benefits.

And when you notice that, you are told, you aren't trying hard enough. MLM

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Short Video - Interviews with Creationists

by cofty in

this short video demonstrates how faith is impervious to facts.. the contributers are honest about their beliefs but so badly deceived about reality it is quite depressing.

spot the canards - some of them are jaw-dropping.. pastor peter laruffa exudes, "if somewhere within the bible, i were to find a passage that said two plus two equals five, i wouldn't question what i'm reading in the bible.

i would believe it, accept it as true, and then do my best to work it out and understand it.".

villagegirl

So much fun feeling superior to believers and making fun of people.

And then there are the well educated scientists who actually contribute

something to this planet, who strangely have a respectful belief in some

higher intelligence, but they haven't met you geniuses, who I'm sure could

insult them down to your size.

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My Former Congregation is Dead

by Nosferatu in

jw
friends

when i left the jw organization, there were about 80 publishers in my congregation.

within the last month, the congregation was abolished because it only had 29 publishers in it.

the apparent reason for this was one elder on a power trip.

villagegirl

From 80 to 29 ? Thats 64% loss or attrition ?

I only hope this represents the overall trend.

I went to a congregation I attended over 20 years

ago that had 150 in it and now its down to a handfull

and shares the space with two or three other small

groups who are left from other congregations that

shrank in size. How much longer can they keep the young

folks in ignorance ?

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It is that time of year again... I AM INVITING YOU ALL TO THE 2014 MEMORIAL OF JESUS DEATH

by suavojr in

jw
friends

yes, it time to gather and 'keep doing this in remembrance of me.

1 cor.

11:24 .. come all to our best memorial ever!

villagegirl

Suavo - junior ? There is no Biblical support for the doctrine of

two classes or two hopes, or any Biblical support for restricting

anyone who believes in partaking of the bread and wine. Read the

scripture, the little flock joins the big flock and they become ONE.

One hope. Jesus said " I am in you, you are in me, we are one."

That was for everybody. Oneness, no "organization" required.

The word "Organization" does not appear anywhere in the Bible.

The term "governing body" does not appear in the Bible.

You are in a cult. A closed, isolated society of people who believes they must

stick to an organization. One that makes false prophesies and lies to you.

You feel you are "protected" not by God but by "the organization".

Try to think about this. Jesus is not an angel. He will eventually make

this clear to you.

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If Jesus is Michael, then why would he be afraid of Satan?

by Pronger1 in

jude 1:9 shows that michael didn't dare rebuke satan.

if jesus is michael, then why would he be afraid to do so?

in matthew and mark it clearly shows that the demons were afraid of jesus..

villagegirl

This is one of the WT doctrines, that is on again, off again.

Most WT doctrines have fluxuated, or completly reversed over the

years. So much for enduring truth. The idea that these concepts

can be changed or prophesies made that don't happen, shows the

diabolical and dishonest nature of the governing body and its supporters.

The idea that Jesus was an angel would be repugnant to most

JW's of thirty years ago. He was always described as the "firstborn

of all creation" Standing in an unapproachable light, higher than any angel.

Then they demoted him to a second class citizen, a recyled angel, who changed

his name. A Gabriel, with benefits.

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Does this count as Nazi collaboration?

by Julia Orwell in

a jw friend of mine visited the site of auschwitz-berkenau and bought a book on jws in auschwitz which documents which jws were in the camp, which ones died, and what they did while they were there.

known as honest and industrious workers, a lot of them, especially women, were employed as domestic help in the homes of the ss commanders.

this is well documented.

villagegirl

The Watchtower's version of history, like its version of reality, is distorted

and bent to fit their fairy tale world. JW's believe they are "protected"

by the insular philosophy of "separteness", this isolated mindset

makes them believe that they literally have no connection to whatever

is happening around them. The world they mentally live in, has "two classes"

and "special knowledge" and they see themselves as acting out some

Divine Plan in which they are the heroes and only survivors. The only

community they can see is the one "in the organization" they see no

obligation to connect or contribute, to "those on the outside". Including

members of their own family.

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Does this count as Nazi collaboration?

by Julia Orwell in

a jw friend of mine visited the site of auschwitz-berkenau and bought a book on jws in auschwitz which documents which jws were in the camp, which ones died, and what they did while they were there.

known as honest and industrious workers, a lot of them, especially women, were employed as domestic help in the homes of the ss commanders.

this is well documented.

villagegirl

Technically I see your point. In reality, in those circumstances many did what they could to survive. For the JW women; they are trained to be brain dead and submissive to male authority, and also trained to never take a political or social position on anything ( example: JW's never participated in any Civil Rights protests, on helped end Apartheid, in South Africa, they just went along with it ) so their actions submitting to Nazi authority is understandable. The only political stand they took was passive, not salute a flag or not vote, or not participate in any political action. It is this very isolation from community that enabled this behavior. It was failure to "openly participate politically ", that landed them in the camps and failure to recognize any moral obligation to the Jews being slaughtered that made them the passive obedient servants that the WT had molded them into being. The JW female position is to "let the men do the thinking" while we wash the floor. JW's are also, male or female, conditioned to isolate themselves from their social surroundings and isolate themselves from any sense of connectiveness to the community at large or sense of obligation, to the sufferings of others, especially not the suffering of "worldly people", so the Jews being tortured and slaughtered were of no concern to them.

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The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.

by THE GLADIATOR in

january 2014 watchtower study article.

let your kingdom comebut when?.

this generation will not pass away.

villagegirl

Problem : there are no "classes" at all.

The WT made up that doctrine.

Just can't get your head around that ?

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The truth about Hispanic JWs in the United States

by Hecce in

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i will like to share some facts about the spanish congregations in usa.

villagegirl

Any facade of brotherhood, is an attractive force and gives a warm glow of

"these are my people" I "belong" they will never desert me, even

the very term "friends" is used to imply that true friendship exists here,

the comfort of feeling "we are all in this together"

"the brothers" "the friends" its "us" against the "worldly people",

the "outside". The idea of being "outside" versus "inside", or "in the truth"

and "out of the truth" all of these feelings and expressions serve to

insulate and isolate. The need to "belong" satisfies a basic human need.

However, all of the above have nothing at all to do with individual growth,

or morality, or even the worship of God. It does not help us to connect

with humanity or community or see others as anything but a faceless,

nameless mechanism whose exisitence is dependent upon their

approval in the organization. When an individual is disfellowshipped

their importance and their person becomes invisible, they no longer

count and we are able to discard them like a useless appendage.

We are controlled by our own need to be controlled.

The JW finds importance, not in deeds of righteousness, or

in acts of compassion, but in the expansion and maintenance

of the "thing" the structure, the group, the existence of which,

imbues the members with a sense of superior place and personal

exemption from all normal rules of moral conduct and responsibility

to anyone but the organization and its governing body.

This state is immoral, self righteous, and a form of religion that is

false to its power.

It is anti-God and anti-Christ and anti-humanitarian.