science deals with what can be observed, directly or indirectly.
so in one sense, you could say that science is simply not providing any answers to the question about the existence of a soul or spirit component of a human being.. .
that, of course, keeps science polite to religious ideas.. .
Stealing Jan's thread here for a sec
PAT!
I love that series. I have read it a few times myself. That Ayla(sp?) was one tough cookie wasn't she? The descriptive nature of how she survived hardship was astounding. I will make a point to read that entire series yet again...Thank you.
wendy
Ooops I forgot to hand Jan back his thread,handing it back now, too sleepy to comment on it now)
i read in one of stephen jay gould's last interviews that he found some inconsistencies between ge.
ch.
1 and ge.
Farkel!
Didn't you write an essay about this? I am almost sure I saw one about Adam not finding a sutiable mate amongst the animals.
wendy
i read in one of stephen jay gould's last interviews that he found some inconsistencies between ge.
ch.
1 and ge.
The NWT translation
Genesis 1:27-And God proceeded to create the man in his image, in god's image he created them, male and female he created them.
Genesis 2:20-So the man was calling the names of all the domestic animals and of the flying creatures of the heavens and of every wild beast of the field, but for man there was found no helper for him.21. Hence Jehovah God had a deep sleep fall upon the man and, while he was sleeping, he took one of his ribs then closed up the flesh over it's place.22 And Jehovah God proceeded to build the rib that he had taken from the man into woman and to bring her to the man.
Those are just the primary verses, read it through yourself and see what you think. This is not even getting into the debate of the serpent actually telling the truth to Eve
wendy
yep,one year ago tonight i first posted here.i had lurked for a few weeks,never intending to post,but a particular thread hit so close to home for me,that i felt like i had to voice my opinion.of course,i was promptly slammed as being a troll,but i was stubborn enough to hang around.here i am still hanging,a whole year later.
i've maybe learned more in this past year than in the ten before it all put together.i've learned a whole lot about myself-about who i am,and why.i've learned about the organization that shaped my life and my family.originally i was shocked by alot of what i read here,and wasn't sure whether or not to believe it all.but looking back,knowing what i do now explains an awful lot of things.
i've learned lot's about people,too.like many who were raised jw,i led a very sheltered childhood(even more so living in the country,going to a small school).i'm still not sure if this is a real cross section of life,but i think it's pretty close.i'm happy to say that i've made lot's of friends here,some very good ones.though i've had my share of disagreements,i don't consider anyone here an enemy.
Oklahoma!
You, Sir are one of my favorite people!
wendy
please can everyone think twice before they make posts containing bad language (even if not directed at individuals), graphic sex talk and nude or semi-nude pictures (especially if explicit).
this is not what the forum is here for.
if you want to post stuff like that then there are lots of places on the internet for it and, more importantly, if people want to see and read stuff like that then they are quite capable of going to these places themselves.. i know everyone likes to 'let their hair down' now and again, me included, and i like pictures of sexy women as much as anyone .
As a person who has spoken against the sex threads I too will add my two cents. I have always thought, even after leaving the dubs that a there is a difference between teasing, playing, and outright flaunting. A person who will degrade themselves(and it does degrade you) and discuss intimate business is not doing anything but making themsleves look cheap. If the forum is full of these types of threads, it degrades the whole forum. IMO
Now, we go to the question of what is offense and what is not. Someone mentioned that it may be what we discuss in front of our grandmother...well my grandma rode a harley on the weekends...so where do we go from there? hahah There was not much I would not discuss with her. As a professional nurse I knew where to draw the line with a patient. I dealt with very afluent people, and I dealt with those who did not make $10,000 a year. I was able to determine by their presence what type of lines I was able to cross.
We all were dubs at one time. We all know the proper shush shush we maintained. We also know that a casual raunchy suggestion was okay. Can't we follow along the those lines? Keep it clean with a hint of suggestion? My experience has been a bit a flash goes WAY longer than a full frontal nudity shot<wink> where are those icons Simon? haha
wendy
farkel,
It could be that you know someone on a personal level and find they are not really as they present themselves on a public forum. There is a bitter taste in is your mouth then, knowing the person on a 3rd dimensional level. You find that that person is not as they present. The fact is Time will tell, a person's TRUE character will shine through for those who are willing to see it. So such is life I guess...time does not stop for anybody
wendy
Well, I really appreciate the many people who have welcomed me back. I did not want to reply to any negative, cause who wants to get THIS kinda thread locked? lol we have 98% positive vibes and 2% negative vibes, and I want postive to ruleI do have to state a few things for those who are wondering.
I will stand by any comments I have made in the past. I will admit to perhaps stating them too fast, or too loud, or too wide. Perhaps I should keep some opinions to myself. As for Kent's I love that place, the mix of people are wonderful, and I call everyone there my friends. I am not leaving there to come back here. I am coming back here, because I miss all of the wonderful people here. Look how many responded here for me. Those are the ones I miss, the good hearted, loving people, I have come to know personally.
I have a few here who I do not care for, I am sure you all know who they are lol. I am not being prideful and arrogant by not responding, I am trying to be civil;) If I was to debate our differences here on the public forum, what good would it do? Who wins? Nobody cares as much as those involved in the bickering. Why should I waste my time explaining my thoughts again to someone who I do not get along with, and will probably never get along with?
In the real world if we are in a destructive relationship we can recognize it and walk away from it. I recognized it and walked away from here. As I said, I threw away the many who DO care about me, and I care about because I have no self control. haha I am now willing to attempt to stay here(Simon willing) and not get into any debates with those I don't get along with. I refuse to answer any questions, justify my behavior or respond to any attempts to instigate a fight.
I am here to converse and share my life with those who want meEveryone else be damned<wink>
wendy
was written next and makes a brief mention of the resurrection and ascension; which includes a conspiracy theory about the body being stolen (matt.
where did jesus first appear?
where else did jesus appear?
Jan,
Sweet! I am saving that
wendy
this song and band are a favourite .
fake plastic trees.
her green plastic watering can.
Wow! I was just blown away by the blast from the past
Waving at Path, waiting, Logical, and ammy...twas simplier then eh?
wendy(the artist formerly known as mommy)
i would like to know some personal experiences with dabbling with hallucigenic drugs as far as seeing a deeper level of conciosness than the one given to you by the jws.
when i left the jws i was about 17 and my father was one of the main elders.
so i had to watch my p's and q's so i wouldnt make my father look bad.
Space,
Two years ago today, I took acid for the first time in my life. It was the most beautiful. soulful experience I ever had. I never wanted to fly. I stared at the stars and became one with this huge vass universe, I found my place. I tripped once since then, nothing weird happened either. I may do it in the future, who knows;) I have no need to do this everyday(not addictive). To experience it again would be a treat though, I would set aside for when I am free from the kids for a few days.
wendy
