last year one of my customer's asked me when I was going to give him a Christmas card - I gave him a card and gift - this year he asked me to his companie's Christmas party - so now I guess I'm going to be a real pagan - hope no J.W's are there ha-ha ... might get myself df'd
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What's everyone doing for Christmas?
by Missie Eff ini'm in a quandry.. came out of the organisation a few years ago, have spend a couple of chilled out christmasses in front of the fire.
no presents, decorations etc, no problem!
but... my little boy is getting older and my ex-husband (my son's father and also an ex-jw) is concerned that he will miss out, just like we did as kids.. but, i am reluctant to do the whole christmas thing.
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Wnna Puke?
by Kent inbible teaching: focus of jehovah's witnesses conventions .
by vicente b. foz .
education is a vital part of one's daily life, and every person should have a right to study and learn in order to live well and long - even forever.
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it's coming out both ends - too bad the r&f don't see these forked-tongued old farts for what they are
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private meeting of the G.B
by wheelwithinwheel inhttp://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/f8a02880/bc/pets/gbmeeting.jpg?bcprjr8a2vkw89x.. .
because of a techno-glitch i dont think youll be seeing the meeting just yet.
however if you right-click on the red x - go into properties - copy the url address (this works better from left to right) - put the address into you browser - then return to the thread and copy the text beginning with ?
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http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/f8a02880/bc/pets/gbmeeting.jpg?bcprJR8A2Vkw89x.
because of a techno-glitch I don’t think you’ll be seeing the meeting just yet. However if you right-click on the red x - go into properties - copy the url address (this works better from left to right) - put the address into you browser - then return to the thread and copy the text beginning with ? following the red x (make sure to include the dot at the end - add the text to the address ending in jpg already in your browser - press return et voilà ... the private meeting of the governing body ! ! !
Have fun
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Having Children Inside vs Outside The Organizatio
by Ranchette ini feel cheated because i wouldnt know what its like to experience pregnancy and the birth of my children the way it was meant to be.. a completely natural and joyous event in human life was sabotaged by this religion!.
im sure there are others who know what i mean.. i would be interested to hear stories of others who have had children both inside and out of this organization.. i would like to explain what i mean.. i was raised as a witness and was always expected to be an example.
from as far back as i can remember we were taught that armageddon was just around the corner.
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I was a mistake born to a pioneer couple. I knocked my parents out of the pioneer service. They had been living in a room, my dad working 1 day a week for $5. He had a hard time finding a job. He had no skills, was over 30 and had never had a real job. Later, when he decided the family needed a car, he was regarded as materialistic by the congregation.
As a youngster I well remember the talks telling unmarried brothers and sisters to stay single, and married couples to remain childless. One DA talk went into particular detail about Jerusalem’s destruction, stressing the point that starving mothers ATE THEIR OWN CHILDREN...woe to the pregnant woman at Armageddon ! It was very clear that there would be matricides at Armageddon and anyone getting pregnant would deeply regret it
I think the currant baby boom mentioned, shows that many are tired of the WT’s prophecies of doom. One forty-year-old sister in my congregation went around telling all she was going to get pregnant before it was too late, and she wasn’t talking about Armageddon. Everyone cheered her on and she is now the proud mother of a baby boy. Next she is going for a brother or sister and no one is stumbled.
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We are going back to the Kingdom Hall.....
by Escargot inwell, after one year of dissociating ourselves, my wife an i are going back to the kingdom hall!
no, we dont want back in.
a very dear friend has passed away (she happened to be the wife of our po).
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My experience is the hardest part is sitting through the talk
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We are going back to the Kingdom Hall.....
by Escargot inwell, after one year of dissociating ourselves, my wife an i are going back to the kingdom hall!
no, we dont want back in.
a very dear friend has passed away (she happened to be the wife of our po).
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My experience is the hardest part is sitting through the talk
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J.W's gonna see Harry P ?
by wheelwithinwheel inharry potter is getting great reviews.
looks pretty satanic!
how many witnesses are gonna go see the movie?
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Many parents who threw a Tower Tantrum and forbid E.T. now gather round the T.V and watch X-files and Star-Trek reruns.
When the kids talk about not be allowed to watch E.T. they seem to feel sheepish or should that read goatish.
I think a lot are (will) read (see) H.P.
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2 weight 2 measures - depends on who's on...
by wheelwithinwheel inmisbehaving elders treated with understanding.
weve had a few cases of elders being accused of serious stuff around here over the last few years.
if you are a "mere" publisher, not currently occupying a position, dont try fooling around like this.
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Misbehaving elders treated with understanding
We’ve had a few cases of elders being accused of serious stuff around here over the last few years. If you are a "mere" publisher, not currently occupying a position, don’t try fooling around like this. I assure you it won’t be tolerated. But then let us keep mind these men were spirit-appointed, incapable of wrongdoing.
The first case involved a fellow who always managed to have a certain pioneer sister in his car in service. They elders were approached. The "approachers" were laughed off and informed they had wild imaginations. When suspicions began being discussed routinely over coffee, the elder body’s retribution was swift. The talkers were quickly disciplined and silenced. A sister was taken off the pioneer list accused of gossiping and another brother was deleted as min. serv. Everyone was basically told bro. Sneak was innocent and to shut up. The day after an assembly at which bro. Sneak was in the pool baptizing new ones the news broke. Bro. Sneak had taken off with sis. Zealous during the night. He was finally df’d when he refused to leave sis. Zealous and return to his wife.
Case two involves bro. Horny. A young pion. sis. seemed to catch his fancy. When the accusation of flirting and sexual harassment surfaced, the elders assured all that bro. Horny would be severely dealt with, probably being removed as an elder. Then it became known that he might remain an elder but lose some privileges such as meeting parts. A few weeks later, a new presiding overseer was appointed in bro. Horny’s place. Bro. Horny’s name did not appear on the new Service Meeting schedule but the following week he was called up front during a part and gave an interesting experience. Then he was asked to close the meeting with prayer. I couldn’t bow my head and I wasn’t the only one looking around. When the C.O. visited he alluded to the situation, then told everyone to be assured he’d looked after it. Brother Horny is still an elder. The young pioneer sister married and moved elsewhere.
2 weight 2 measures - depends on who’s on the scales
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J.W's gonna see Harry P ?
by wheelwithinwheel inharry potter is getting great reviews.
looks pretty satanic!
how many witnesses are gonna go see the movie?
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Harry Potter is getting great reviews. Looks pretty Satanic! How many witnesses are gonna go see the movie? How many witness kids have the books? That has got to be a no-no. How many witness kids or adults have read the books but shut their traps?
Maybe brother Michael Jackson will give us his take on it.
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The life of a Circuit or District Overseer
by LDH inalthough they frequently point to the apostle paual as the 'original circuit overseer," the wbts has set up a system which is nothing like what paul did.. paul was not a burden to any congregation.
yet, today the cos and dos (at least here in the states) have the following life:.
car is paid for.
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The official explanation : the rotation arrangement meant that the elders would always be learning and never become proficient in a given area. On the other hand, keeping each in his designated place makes for an experienced elder in each position. Much more efficient! That seems to make sense doesn’t it?
The real explanation : the Society quickly realized with their little experiment in self-government that it was imperative to keep a tight grip and maintain control of each elder body and congregation. How ? Simple ! They appoint the director, the big cheese, the main man, the presiding pepper. Enthrone a "Tower Bower". And if he stops bowing, they replace him rapido!
And that’s why the C.O’s are still visiting. Gotta monitor quality of the local’s "Tower Bowing" and check up on the titled "Tower Bower".