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wheelwithinwheel
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*AUDIO* of our COVERT OPS & THE STORY
by zev ingwen and i went on a mission .
going in as a couple of "interested ones"...into a kh that i was reasonably sure i wouldn't be recongnized as the "uadna-ri" i went in with a hidden wire and tape recorder to get the "evidence".
on this site you will find links to 4 audio files... the first two are "the part", and the other two files are an audio clip of the "love bombing" attack we got when we left the first meeting, and the reading of a letter to "all congregations" concerning the discontinuation of subscriptions.. as with all jw things, it is interesting to hear the comments made by the speaker, things not written in the km, and views, attitudes, and references made when speaking of how to treat disfellowshipped family members.. all in all, i am glad we went on this misssion.
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Bill Bowen Disfellowshipped
by silentlambs inas of 8:30 pm this evening the appeal hearing decided to uphold the decision.
i spoke to them for over an hour and tried to reason with them as to the validity of their decision.
frankly, they were not interested.
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wheelwithinwheel
Theyve done their duty. Wt legal told them what to do, how to do it, and made sure it got done. Who paid for the court room? The WTBTS, not the local cong. The men chosen for the a.c. were parachuted in not because they are known as unbiased and fair. They were picked especially for their absolute loyalty to the org. and were told to get the job done.
Appeal comities are decided in advance and always uphold the original decision.
Theres no other term than kangaroo court.
It must have been quite a trying chore to get through this knowing the outcome was inevitable.
Congrads Bill
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DO you REALLY think this is THE END OF JW's?
by minimus ineverytime a new revelation comes to the board, some suggest that this is the big one.
whether it be the blood issue, the u n debacle, the silentlambs saga, some cryptic comment about jw's and their involvement with churches, it seems like nothing effects the jehovah's witnesses rank and file.
personally.
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They survived the '75 decline - god was cleansing his organisation of those serving for a date
My father who quit his job at that time, now refuses to admit the society ever talked about a date. He spews the party line a few misdirected brothers blah blah blah...
Is there hope? I'd like to think so. At least some brains a defrosting one by one.
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JW retreat in Maine?
by Dogpatch inhas anyone heard of a jw retreat being built in maine on an island?
i received this email:.
i am a christian minister living on a small island off from maine callled swan's island, maine.we have found out last evening at church that the j.w.
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Not only the G.B. are wearing diapers
by wheelwithinwheel insome time ago elder p.s younger son started acting up.
finally he slept with a married sister and got dfd.
he was still living at home so elder p. was informed he would have to be demoted.
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Some time ago elder P.s younger son started acting up. Finally he slept with a married sister and got dfd. He was still living at home so elder P. was informed he would have to be demoted. But apparently there was also a promise that if he could bring his young son into line he would promptly regain his former elder status. The younger son smartened up and was reinstated. But the C.O.s visit went by and the Holy Spirit seemed to be dragging on the elder bodys promise. However elder P.s patience has now been rewarded. In fact he received a double honour. Not only did he regain his eldership but his eldest son also received the "older man" title. The family, as well as the congregation, are quite proud to have produced this young elder. You see he just turned 24.
So there you have it, now we have "older men" in Bethel wearing "Depends" and "older men" in the local congregations wearing "Pampers".
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Gutted about the Kingdom Ministry
by kat7302 inits 2:15 am and i have to go to bed altho im not tired!
i was so upset by that kingdom ministry about how to treat df ones.
ill log off and when i sign back in in the morning, i hope to see 3546154263541658468154 posts on this making me smile and laugh cos im gonna need it!.
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Will the J-dubs end up like the Catholics Hierarchy defining the indefinable and everyone in the Church disobeying the " Pharisees " rules and doing their own thing ? Im not so sure.
My mom phoned, feeling quite vindicated by the latest Km, and began reading it to me. When she got to the picnic part I cut her off.
You see my sister was ostracized by the family 20 years ago. I began realising my brain was on "pause" some time ago and got in touch with her. Lately dad got sick and after I showed them the WT media comments the parents permitted a visit by her. Even though 2 uncles, 1 a retired C.O/D.O, another a HLC member, each welcomed her with a big hug and had a meal at the same table, my parents seemed uneasy. They finally made a fuss and to explain it dad said, "shes still disfellowshipped you know". This seems to be the last stab wound my sister could take. She feels much worse than before and I feel pretty awful for trying to patch things up. Twice disowned by your own parents.
I told mom this Km was another example of the societys two-faced lying attitude, telling the pagan press one thing and their sheep another. I explained that the society is just preparing the way to clamp a vice-grip on anyones throat who has a word to say about the pedophile issue. Then I asked her who she thought was making these decisions and writing all this WT stuff. The governing body are all suffering from the onset of Alzheimers, soiling their underwear and being wheeled around Bethel. Theyve resigned from all the comities. So it would seem that the other sheep have now taken over. I asked her if she thought that was the way Jesus planned it for his faithful and discreet slave.
She finally agreed that the seeming turnabout seemed odd and said she would write the society for an explanation. I can hardly wait for the spin-doctors reply.
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2 replies to link
by wheelwithinwheel insent the nbc link; got 2 replies so far:.
your message dated sat, 25 may 2002 00:59:37 edt has been submitted to the moderator of the germnews .
thank you for your message to cross country checkup.
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wheelwithinwheel
Sent the NBC link; got 2 replies so far:
Your message dated Sat, 25 May 2002 00:59:37 EDT has been submitted to the moderator of the GERMNEWS
Thank you for your message to Cross Country Checkup. Although we are sending you this automated reply and are unable to reply individually to each letter, we want to assure you that we read all of our mail
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SPREAD THE LINK
by wheelwithinwheel inthe lambs story is international and it is time for the abused to speak out in all countries.. the media all over the world must know about the findings of dateline for this to happen.. suggestion:.
click on a search engine, find major newspapers and tv in a given country and send an e-mail with a title in the subject line like:.
jehovahs witness church facing serious accusations!.
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wheelwithinwheel
The lambs’ story is international and it is time for the abused to speak out in all countries.
The media all over the world must know about the findings of Dateline for this to happen.
Suggestion:
Click on a search engine, find major newspapers and TV in a given country and send an e-mail with a title in the subject line like:
Jehovah’s Witness Church facing serious accusations!
then give them the link and I think they’ll do the rest
http://www.msnbc.com/onair/default.asp?program=Dateline%20NBC
If you speak a second language, translate the title and send the link to newspapers and TV in the appropriate countries. I’m sure France, Italy, Spain, Russia and others who already know plenty about the JW’s would be interested in commenting NBC’s story.
The Watchtower showed us how to give an effective witness so let’s spread the news all over the earth Mt 24:14.
Send the link to local, national and international media.
For those who wish to temporary pioneer for a day, there is a lot of unassigned territory like the J-dub homepages.
It is not necessary to count your time or turn in a report but please don’t let this dissuade you from giving an effective witness.
ADVERTISE, ADVERTISE, ADVERTISE
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Circuit Overseers Are Monitored- Confirmed
by metatron inthis fact appeared as a rumor on this board some time.
ago.
i can confirm it, as i once saw it with my own eyes.. a c.o.
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A couple of years ago an elder friend in Florida told me the C.O. had cautioned all elders to listen for apostate teaching, concerning the heavenly hope, in the public talks. The C.O. said "we know they’re there, we just gotta weed them out". So maybe some undercover work is going on or maybe the WT is just paranoid.
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Psychdigg your presence requested
by JPandelo inpsychdigg,.
i watch you post these opinions all over this forum and i have yet to see you address any real questions.
you may have a problem with bill bowen and the work he does, but you fail to provide a good enough reason why.
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wheelwithinwheel
Here, here Justin! Sing their songs and do their dance and you will be a rising star....
Try climbing off the stage. You will be trampled and stomped by the same people who admired you so! And they aren’t even interested in knowing why you aren’t doing the WT song and dance anymore. They look at each other and say “Evidently she (he) wasn’t star material”
Psychdigg, one piece of advice. You want to be a good J.W. you just keep singin’ and dancin’ the WT boggy