Posts by wheelwithinwheel

The WT knows by experience that public interest will shift rapidly if there is no conflict. This is a favorite tactic of the WT used in apostate, blood transfusion and even in Michael Jackson like situations - no comment

Sure enough, the public loses interest and the heat vanishes.

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Brother now I am stumbled!

by Shane in

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friends

have you ever been so dam hurt from the things done to you in the so called gods organization that you wanted to just set down cry your guts out?.

i will list a few reasons but basically i feel that my reality has been denied to me as a young man growing up as a jw.. i was not taught to love god, but have excrement scared out of me if i did not do what they said, i too had an over bearing father who seemed to fit right in with jw's mind set.

i can still hear him now god rest his soul, he would say every morning if he happen to hear garner ted armstrong, honey listen they are robbing from the lords table.

wheelwithinwheel

Setting up toilets in the campgrounds, cleaning the stadiums before and after, trucking in all the equipment (stoves and cookers, trays, sound equipment, chairs etc.) and then hauling it all away to KH basements...all the fine memories

What with the 8 day conventions, rooming (hah remember that !), setting up and clean-up no wonder all the good dubs didn’t have any time left to take the family on a holiday

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It's Finally Over!!

by DIM in

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friends

my wife and i attended our last meeting last night.

it wasn't so bad, since it was bookstudy and they threw a little party for us afterwards - we are moving to wa from pa next week.

we will never set foot in a kingdom hall again - feels great.

wheelwithinwheel

Oh what fond memories that brings to mind - we did it on Remembrance Day (Nov 11). It is certainly something we will remember.

The only real friends we had inside are now just about to the point you’re at yipppeeee !

Even though the J.W. lifestyle probably took up a good part of your time I’m sure you’ll have no trouble finding better things to do

Congrads ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Some timely council:
Keep the daily text... read it in a year or too.... it’ll bring tears to your eyes and you’ll be shaking with laughter from head to toe

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It's Finally Over!!

by DIM in

jw
friends

my wife and i attended our last meeting last night.

it wasn't so bad, since it was bookstudy and they threw a little party for us afterwards - we are moving to wa from pa next week.

we will never set foot in a kingdom hall again - feels great.

wheelwithinwheel

Oh what fond memories that brings to mind - we did it on Remembrance Day (Nov 11). It is certainly something we will remember.

The only real friends we had inside are now just about to the point you’re at yipppeeee !

Even though the J.W. lifestyle probably took up a good part of your time I’m sure you’ll have no trouble finding better things to do

Congrads ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Some timely council:
Keep the daily text... read it in a year or too.... it’ll bring tears to your eyes and you’ll be shaking with laughter from head to toe

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What was the JW breaking point 4 U?

by ashitaka in

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friends

we have a thread that asks why we became jw's, so i became curious as to why some of us have left.

what was the last straw for you?.

mine was the treatment of my wife.

wheelwithinwheel

No real breaking point, just a lot of cracks finally added up. Here’s one thing that really bugged us.

A couple of years ago a new NWT, French edition, was brought out. Apparently a few Hebrew and Greek names had not been properly translated and were being mispronounced. The WT explanation was so feeble it was a laugh. The worst thing was that the pronunciation logic presented was not followed when it involved a well-known name. The elder who had to deal with the meeting part and explain these changes privately termed it « pretty stupid ».

Now this happened to be at the beginning of the voluntary contribution era and seemed to be a good money-making scheme ... at least we think so.

Everyone was told to get themselves a proper (new) bible and give a generous contribution for this loving provision.

I remember reading from my old Bible a few months later and getting « looks » of « Oh, you rebellious one ».

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JW's Speak For Brother Beliz

by silentlambs in

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i have added the letters from friends and family in behalf of manuel beliz to the court.

the button is on the front page of the website.

it is odd that the letter seem to follow a similar pattern to the testimony in the paul berry sentencing hearing.

wheelwithinwheel

Coaching ? Ha,Ha,Ha...

When it comes to « defending Jehovah’s name » nothing is spared or left to chance

There was a child custody case where the J.W’s had to win - the KH was converted into a court room and J.W lawyers grilled witnesses for days showing them the « appropriate way » to answer questions from Satan’s forces. All the locals involved were quite impressed to learn it was all in the way something is put ... but then we all know that over the years the WT have had to become experts at this game

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LIST of over 100 WTS Corps! (Surprises!)

by Amazing in

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friends

some of these will surprise you: i have captured nearly all watchtower society corporations in the united states.

i have placed those of greatest interest at the top.

watchtower bible & tract society of new york inc brooklyn, ny headquarters.

wheelwithinwheel

I heard all congs. with property (halls) were required by the WT to get Inc.’d with the WT. The story went that some congregation had da’d itself from the WT and made off with the Kingdom Hall. In our area this was done by a WT appointed notary and all the elders were required to sign over the halls.

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"nothing more than your biological mother&...

by wheelwithinwheel in

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friends

just met an ex who left her husband and dad herself about 3 yrs ago.

her daughter who is still a jw had kept in contact but recently stopped calling.

the ex-sister told me she was going crazy not having news, especially since her daughter was now pregnant.

wheelwithinwheel

Just met an ex who left her husband and da’d herself about 3 yrs ago. Her daughter who is still a JW had kept in contact but recently stopped calling. The ex-sister told me she was going crazy not having news, especially since her daughter was now pregnant. Finally she couldn’t stand it any longer and phoned to tell her daughter that all she asked was to feel her grand-child move in her daughter’s tummy before it was born. Her daughter was extremely upset and told her the C.O. had been by and told her she was not to have any more contact with her mom, who he classified as "nothing more than your biological mother". (So much for the un-severed family ties) The mom couldn’t believe this guy doing this because, years ago, he was the one who had studied with them, and apparently knew the husband’s problems in detail..

Although I don’t know any details of this family’s situation, I have noticed a peculiar tendency over the years. Many times it would become evident that a husband was acting like an ass and being abusive, at least mentally. Then the sister would leave, and end up df’d or da’d. Even though many in the congregation, including the elders, suspected and even discussed the brother’s abuse, the brother would be pitied and taken under the congregation’s spiritual wing; but the sister, who had been the victim, seemed to always be the "wicked sinner".

Anyway I’m happy to report the daughter disobeyed the C.O’s orders, had the mom over, and is now keeping touch

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no blood cards this year!

by DIM in

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friends

last night at meeting they told us to just use our blood cards from last year.

in the past they've always told us how important it was to get it signed every year so that people could see our current views as jw's.....doesn't this new arangement negate everything they've ever said in regards to this?

absolutely nuts!.

wheelwithinwheel

I think they're having 2nd thoughts about being accused by the press of forcing the issue on their members. Remember they give out the cards and tell everyone to fill them out and sign them. Pretty difficult not to obey if you’re at that meeting. They even sent the elders to fill in the cards with those not at the meeting that night. I’ve heard they’re working on spiritual vocabulary to insure that any interviews with pubs. radiate free choice.

Personally, I always hated that meeting and even though I agreed with the policy I always felt my decision was being made for me.