HEY EVERYBODY I really believe that if someone has a problem with there being a universal soveriegn then they probably don't believe in or have faith in anything except there own views or opinions which makes them kind of like the very people they're talking about.I believe that Jehovah is the true soveriegn and that what we view as far as how time is looked at by God ., we need to remember that God created time ,,or we wouldn't have any. Allen A K A BUGGER
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Fictious "Universal Sovereignty" Issue Proposed By Watchtower Corporation Is Idiotic
by frankiespeakin inok so a big part of the wt corporation ideological structure is the invention of the issue before all creation being "universal sovereignty".. the story goes like this very basically:.
for untold years jehovah's soverneignty was never challenged, then after so many millions of years jehovahs started his earthly creation with adam&eve being the culmination of that work.
soon afterwards satan seduces eve to disobey jehovah and thus we have the very first act of disobedience satan slanders god by telling eve god is selfish as to the reason he forbids eating this other wise nice looking fruit adam joins his wife in the rebellion.. god in his infinite wisdom allows this rebellion because this was a challenge to his sovereingty and so he is allowing a reasonable amount of time to let mankind and angels see for themselves that his rulership is better that satan's.. so basically it is like a bet he has with satan or who's rulership is best, and he's allowing time to prove his is far superior.. well if you look at it logically it don't add up.. 1. if god is going to allow satan to prove his point about who's rulership is better why is he alway interfereing and interveining that's unfair.. 2. god goes on killing sprees of people man women and chilldren (not very smart for some trying to prove his rulership is better for people to follow.. 3. god show himself to be jealous (not a good trait for a ruler to endear himself to people).. 4. god's scare people to except his ruler ship.. and i have even more reason to show the whole idea is a made up sham..
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Re: Will you attend the Memorial this year? Why? Why not?
by check inyou all had some interesting thoughts on that jw memorial thread.
some of you mentioned that you are going so that you can set some sort of example.
i gather that some of you believe that by going and eating, you are somehow showing them they can (or should) do it too.. that really confuses me.
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Hey every body ,personally I concidered going to the memorial to see if anybody was going to partake of the emblems. My reason for that is that those individuals should be very ,very old and there shouldn't be any at all left by now. I just don't understand how the number can keep staying in one place or replenishing itself, when the numbers should be decreasing greatly every year. Allen---A K A BUGGER
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Generally speaking ,one of the primary misconceptions that most JW's have is that they are the only people that have pretty much the same view on bible prophesy. You have to keep in mind that most evangelicals are not aware of what their "RELIGION" teaches concerning who Jehovah is ,who Christ is,and how they work together in conjunction with the Holy Spirit. It is a sad fact that one of the reasons a good person gets sucked into conversations with JW's is that that JW's are taught how to get a person to admit ,at least in their own mind that what they believe may be wrong and that someone elses ideas may have some merit,UNLIKE JW's who are taught that they and only they have any idea at all about what JEHOVAH may require of them to be acceptable for any kind of consideration beyond what we are born into and all have to live through until we die , and everybody dies or at least did until the misunderstanding of scripture started being taught , that "many now living may never die' the JW's started teaching that"MANY NOW LIVING WILL NEVER DIE" after which setting forth several dates to look to ,one at a time of course,as to when the end was going to come, and for the most part with great enthusiasm honestly believed it. Most folks believe in an end time but unlike JW's they remember being taught in some sunday school that the diciples wanted to know when the end was coming and that Jesus said quite simply I don't know,only the Father knows . "a really simple anwser to a question that for the most part made up the largest portion of the wbts endoctrination of new bible studies. Somtimes it makes me madder than I like to get to realize how their idea is that a person should listen to them but the don't have to reciprocate at all because they are right to start with. How dumb can you get to be thinking that your opinion is the only one to be concidered because you are right to start with . thank Allen AKA BUGGER