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  Who gave the JWS a bad name?

  by Monster in

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  this is something i have been thinking about for a while.

  xjws survivors tell us, when they were being sexually abused by members from their own khs, and they reported the abuse to the elders all they got in return from elders was, "wait on jehovah he will set matters straight" .

  now i can't for the life of me figure out why didn't at least one elder reason that , jehovah was leading the victims to the elders so they could receive justice he was trying to set matters staright.

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  willy_think

  Monster,
  I get the message loud and clear, I agree with your line of thinking. I am keeping close tabs on the ONE elder who did seek Justus for the children or the WT. let me tell you that's a long lonely road and only the strongest men can walk it. I believe conviction compassion and true leadership are qualities the Org. discourages in it's representatives (elders).

  As to making your self understood, I have dyslexia, and can relate to that too. Some people will stand in judgment of you, some will crack on spelling but don't let them silence you because this medium suits them better then it does you. speak your mind if we don't get it we'll ask for clarification, no big deal.

  There are no elders here, if someone tries to control you by putting you down tell the fool to piss off and move on. I for one want to hear what you have to say.
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  Islamic Jehovah Witnesses

  by Rado Vleugel in

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  this article is not really about jehovahs witnesses, but it is interesting to see that the writer compares jehovahs witnesses with islamic fundamentalists (i have made the sentences bold)

  6th al-qaida suspect held without bail in buffalo

  by rose ciotta .

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  willy_think

  Main Entry: terrorism
  Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m
  Function: noun
  Date: 1795
  : the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
  - terrorist /-&r-ist/ adjective or noun
  - terroristic /"ter-&r-'is-tik/ adjective

  Main Entry: terror
  Pronunciation: 'ter-&r
  Function: noun
  Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French terreur, from Latin terror, from terrEre to frighten; akin to Greek trein to be afraid, flee, tremein to tremble more at TREMBLE
  Date: 14th century
  1 : a state of intense fear
  2 a : one that inspires fear : SCOURGE b : a frightening aspect <the terrors of invasion> c : a cause of anxiety : WORRY d : an appalling person or thing; especially : BRAT
  3 : REIGN OF TERROR
  4 : violence (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands <insurrection and revolutionary terror>
  synonym see FEAR
  - terrorless /-l&s/ adjective

  breeze,

  I'm afraid I must disagree, I personally have witnessed WT representatives use terror to correct my farther.
  Because the WT terrorizes it's own members does not change the definition of terrorist.
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  MIKE MUSTO IS GAY !

  by BATHORY in

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  period !!!.

  not that there is anything wrong with that

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  willy_think

  Gay..... Hum?? What could be the motivation behind a statement like that?

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=29162&site=3
  

  But of late I have regrettably observed that others I had once appraised as worthy associates have cultivated and displayed dispositions consistent with and manifest by a self benevolent, self admiring non Christian mind set that has degenerated to a
  point that I will not expose my self to any longer. IM not talking about religion here. In want of an ameliorated and seasoned term, most here have become bad associates, as i interpret the concept to mean.To most if not all here, this will mean naught, it will be abated off as another one bites the dust, go back to your kingdom hall and be a flying insect like the rest of them .Unfortunately to me this means loosing a group of people that i daily for the past 4 years, have used to hone my representation as a Christian and have relied upon to, as we Aussie say, Keep
  the bastards honest.My deep sentiment here was partly initiated although not exclusively so, by the reponses i received from a post i composed yesterday, regarding an incident in my past.May i state here, im not overly sensitive. I now regard that my active participation in this community has become frustrated and is of no value to me or the group.Until the time comes that this forum ceases to betray what i believe Simons purposes were for birthing it, and is consolidated into something that even loosely correlates to that vision, i will be
  found waiting and weeping in the shadows of its antiquity.

  Kid, you didn't stay on your moral high ground very long now, did you?
  Maybe you should go back to the shadows.
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  Rev 9: 1-11

  by Smitty in

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  what do these scriptures apply to now?

  who is apollyon, the locust, the trees and grass??.

  rev 9:1-11. the fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and i saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth.

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  willy_think

  Hi smitty,
  I found this good bible site a long time ago but I think it's still one of the best free bible sites online. I noticed you seem interested others thoughts on scripture, well, you will find the site offers multiple commentaries on every book of the bible. I think you might enjoy the commentaries.

  http://www.biblestudytools.net/
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  First and the Last of Rev 1:17 - why in caps?

  by Trotafox in

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  referring to the excellent "kitchen" witness scene in gregbetre's thread regarding jw's denying the deity of the christ, i do have one question..... .

  rev 1:8; 17-18; 22:13 states that jesus christ is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last, and the beginning and the end.

  i don't think it is true that all jw's will say that rev 1:17 refers to jehovah.

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  Sorry COMF, I guess I over generalized your statement, but never having heard of a God or gods that maid rational sense or helped explain anything in the natural world, it was an easy mistake to make.

  If You have a concept for a God/s that makes rational sense I would sure like to hear it.

  My statement as to what love is; some people worship love as there God and some people believe love is an emotion.

  If there is no evidence for God how could belief in God be rational?
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  First and the Last of Rev 1:17 - why in caps?

  by Trotafox in

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  referring to the excellent "kitchen" witness scene in gregbetre's thread regarding jw's denying the deity of the christ, i do have one question..... .

  rev 1:8; 17-18; 22:13 states that jesus christ is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last, and the beginning and the end.

  i don't think it is true that all jw's will say that rev 1:17 refers to jehovah.

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  willy_think

  pseudoxristos,
  I like your style.
  When people tell me how wrong the trinity is I say OK what do you got and I always get an answer as out there as the one you spelled out so clearly.
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  First and the Last of Rev 1:17 - why in caps?

  by Trotafox in

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  referring to the excellent "kitchen" witness scene in gregbetre's thread regarding jw's denying the deity of the christ, i do have one question..... .

  rev 1:8; 17-18; 22:13 states that jesus christ is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last, and the beginning and the end.

  i don't think it is true that all jw's will say that rev 1:17 refers to jehovah.

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  willy_think

  Okay, I give up. How does a concept that doesn't make rational sense help you better understand anything?

  Spoken like a true atheist. "God" -- talk about a concept that doesn't make rational sense or help us understand anything....... Still rational people and people who believe in God agree it's good to love, thay just disagree about what love is.
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  First and the Last of Rev 1:17 - why in caps?

  by Trotafox in

  1. jw
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  referring to the excellent "kitchen" witness scene in gregbetre's thread regarding jw's denying the deity of the christ, i do have one question..... .

  rev 1:8; 17-18; 22:13 states that jesus christ is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last, and the beginning and the end.

  i don't think it is true that all jw's will say that rev 1:17 refers to jehovah.

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  willy_think

  Hay Trotafox,
  I hope all's well with you.
  It is my understanding that bible study using the bible alone or the bible along with material published by any corporation other then the WTB&TS is forbidden. A probable DFing caring the sentence of excommunication now and annihilation at Christ's second visible coming if the witness has not been reinstated to good standing by then.

  I would have to say that the WT very much counts on witness to do there homework, of course, using study aids that substitutes for scripture, carry the weight of law and that's right, is published by the WT corp.
  the WT publishes what I, as a rational person, can only view as intentional misquotes in periodical after periodical. One may be a mistake two might be sloppy research but scores on a steady basis, can be only one thing, a technique.
  False statements supported by false evidence tells me something about the speaker and it's not he "didn't know," nor has it anything to do with dim light.
  Information control is the cornerstone of the liar.
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  First and the Last of Rev 1:17 - why in caps?

  by Trotafox in

  1. jw
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  referring to the excellent "kitchen" witness scene in gregbetre's thread regarding jw's denying the deity of the christ, i do have one question..... .

  rev 1:8; 17-18; 22:13 states that jesus christ is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last, and the beginning and the end.

  i don't think it is true that all jw's will say that rev 1:17 refers to jehovah.

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  willy_think

  Why the caps?
  An intentional attempt to mislead and deceive, in order to protect the dogma of the WT cult.
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  Kudos to Tony Blair, UK PM

  by Amazing in

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  ... not because he supports action regarding iraq, for that is a debatable issue.

  rather, it is because tony blair has proven to be a stand-up statesman who has been able to work well with two very different us administrations, clinton then bush ... while keeping his own moral clarity and vision.

  if tony blair represents the majority of british sentiments, then the usa can thank its lucky stars as having such a close friend and ally ... and americans need to better appreciate our british brethern.

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  willy_think

  Yer,

  I took my ass to England during the gulf war, my MOS was special security, we flew sorties day and night from our base, kicked ass and I was a part of it. I never said we were bad, I said were there. if you refuse to factor that political reality into the equation you can't clam to see the whole picture.

  I'm not going to try to reenlist now, I'm too old to go to Iraq, that is unless we run out of young guys, then I'll re-up. Until then I'll rest on my status as a veteran of a foreign war.

  What is the difference between 1000 English and 1000 Iraqis? Nothing, they are all foreigners.