Yep, problem is, the evil is there and covering it up doesn't make it go away.
Like a white-washed grave full of dead men's bones...
this is how jehovahs witness keep the congregations clean.
when anyone does something wrong, adultery, childabuse etc only the elders dealing with the case are supposed to know about it , appart from those directlty involved.
this means that appart from rumors and gosip, which jehovahs witnesses are instructed to ignore (i suspect this is the reason why)no one knows about it.this creates the impression among the general publishers that these things rarely happen.
Yep, problem is, the evil is there and covering it up doesn't make it go away.
Like a white-washed grave full of dead men's bones...
perhaps i'm just a bit paranoid..but i get the feeling that there are a few posters that actually hate me (before its assumed--no i'm talking about lack of responses to my threads.. and no i am not talking about a disagreement of opinion) i am talking about a few posters that come across to me as very hateful in their responses.. and yes i know that not everyone here will like me (even though i'm so darn sweet and cute...lol) but it is an intense animosity vibe that i get and can't seem to shake.. maybe i am mistaken and maybe its just me..... but if there is anyone out there that does dislike me that much---i am curious as to why---only because i try to learn and grow everyday and your input would be especially valuable and probably essential to that -growth.. so whats the verdict---do you love me, hate me or just not care either way?.
sincerely yours,.
ps--this is in no way an ego thing--i really want to know!
Spice, I know we don't know each other, but I just wanted to say this: I like you! Don't worry about the negative vibes you get from certain posters. I, too, get negative vibes (and all I ever wanted was to be loved). Hey, it's life in the big city and some people aren't happy unless they are trying to make someone else miserable. But, Spice, don't you let them.
And Spanky told me this very day that Jesus loves you... He was probably spiked when he wrote his post to you.
Love,
Windy
that's right, what class of apostate do you fit into?
personally, i'm of the faithless (i'm close to being an athiest) and indiscreet (no explanation needed) class.. are you of the enviable smurf apostate class?
or perhaps even the haunted second-hand furniture apostate class?
I am in the never-look-back apostate class. I came, I saw, I conquered. I chalk it up to experience.
a co-worker burned quadrophenia on a cd for me.
i've only listened to it sober.
all i can say about love reign o'er me is that it is gut-wrenching.
I just reread my drunken take on Love and it's how I felt about the org and other detrimental experiences after I opened my eyes.
a co-worker burned quadrophenia on a cd for me.
i've only listened to it sober.
all i can say about love reign o'er me is that it is gut-wrenching.
JIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe that I don't have a hangover! hahahahahahahahahaha
Was I bad last night? I...er...kinda blanked out. But, I DO feel a certain bond toward those who were in chat last night. I will have to get into that frame of mind again to remember what I got outta Love Reign. Don't know. Do you know? I hate it when that happens.
Okay, this is the day, Jim. I really, really, really want to wear my red shoes...
i am an xjw and i have just discovered this interesting site.
i am curious to know if anyone of you has left the jws and joined anything else.
have any of you become christians?
I believe in God, but have no need for organized religion in my life.
a co-worker burned quadrophenia on a cd for me.
i've only listened to it sober.
all i can say about love reign o'er me is that it is gut-wrenching.
You have made me feel as nothing. It isn't so. NO! Love Reign on me!
I was in the ocean yesterday. I was kissed by the sea. The waves took me in and they took me out. You can't imagine the strength. Only love can make it rain. Like the sweat of lovers' laying in the field. I am nothing to you. But, I am something. Love, Reign O'er Me, reign o'er me. I am something.
You wanted this for the teens, but NO, this is for ME! Only love can make it rain, that makes you yearn to the sky. I have yearned to the sky, many, many times. You have hurt me, but I am still loved, you didn't take that away. You made me feel as nothing, but that was your perception. I will give you more than you gave me: have a good life. You have left me, and now I will leave you. Love Reign O'er Me. I will always love the memory, you did so much for me. And I will try to forget the memory, how you did so little for me. In your madness, you were cruel.
Only love can bring the rain that falls like tears from on high...
a co-worker burned quadrophenia on a cd for me.
i've only listened to it sober.
all i can say about love reign o'er me is that it is gut-wrenching.
A co-worker burned Quadrophenia on a cd for me. I've only listened to it sober. All I can say about Love Reign O'er me is that it is gut-wrenching. I'll let you know what I think of it when I get drunk this weekend.
Love,
Wind
Edited by - windchaser on 19 July 2002 16:10:45
after being indoctrinated against talking to apostates for years, it is scarey to suddenly start talking on the internet.
but it does help to talk with others who have had the same experiences of the wt society - otherwise you end up thinking you are the only one finding a problem with it.. don't be intimidated by your local elders - they are just as indoctrinated as the rest, and probably have secret fears themselves about the organisation.. i was brought up as a jw for 20 years, was baptised.
i left 18 months ago - i now feel happier than i have ever done - i can think for myself, make decisions for myself.
Hi, ugg, welcome! You sound very sweet and I hope things go well for you! I like your name. hahaha
this is my first post on this forum.
i am by all accounts a witness, if not an ideal one.
in light of the reaction after the panorama program i have seen a mixed variety of responses.
Do you trust in him to put things right at Armageddon?
Yes, I do.