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Thanks for the posting bluesapphire.
It makes me mad and sad together.
These poor victims I feel Jane Doe is a very very smart and good person.
To say I forgive you to that persons face will do more good for her than we can realize.
I'm very proud of her.
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being raised a jw sometimes you feel you only know conditional love.
you are only loved if you tow the line.
i only have one thing to say,.
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Wow I sure want to see what response Noidea will have Realelder I can't beleive we would say what he just said.
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being raised a jw sometimes you feel you only know conditional love.
you are only loved if you tow the line.
i only have one thing to say,.
I was just going back over what I posted and was hoping I didn't discourage anyone.
I feel love needs to be as free of conditions as posible and I repeat as free as posible.
And I feel a parents love needs to be as stong as posible, again strong as posible.
Love for our husband or our wife needs to be as strong as posible.
Shunning the JW way is a direct assault on what real love is.
But when we proclaim our love as unconditional then maybe we don't really grasp the meaning of what unconditional really is.
Because it is not posible. We can only try to be unconditional in our love but no one can rightly claim that he is.
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being raised a jw sometimes you feel you only know conditional love.
you are only loved if you tow the line.
i only have one thing to say,.
De
Dedalus,
I'm just saying we all show conditional love.
We can brag and brag about how unconditional are love is but it's all BS.
You prove your love over time and events talk is cheap.
I don't trust people who talk about how great their Love is(I don't believe they are really honest with themselves).
Love is talked about alot, and we can point to ourselves and stick our chest out so what, prove it don't talk about it.
Prove it over time.
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being raised a jw sometimes you feel you only know conditional love.
you are only loved if you tow the line.
i only have one thing to say,.
I don't even think their is such a thing as unconditional Love.
Anybody who says they have it for this or that is deceiving himself.
Anyway it is imposible to prove that one has unconditional Love?
I dare anyone to prove they have unconditional Love? Its just a lot of big talk that leads to nothing.
All love is conditional on some points that is a true fact of life.
It's just that some put too many condititons on their Love and that what's wrong.
Real love has conditions but they are alway in harmony with what love is.(not out of harmony).
We need to keep learning what real Love is so we can live that way.
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matthew 18: 6,7 "if anyone should cause one of these little ones to turn away from his faith in me, it would be better for that man to have a large millstone tied around his neck and be drowned in the deep sea.. how terrible for the world that there are things that make people turn away!
such things will alway happen--but how terrible for the one who causes them.".
has the governing body really been responcible for causing real genuine belevers in jesus christ to stumble the way jesus says at mathew 18?.
I want to thank everybody for your comments, and a special thanks to You Know for brining out the best in us, we couldn't have done it with out You Know's little forays.
Winston
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matthew 18: 6,7 "if anyone should cause one of these little ones to turn away from his faith in me, it would be better for that man to have a large millstone tied around his neck and be drowned in the deep sea.. how terrible for the world that there are things that make people turn away!
such things will alway happen--but how terrible for the one who causes them.".
has the governing body really been responcible for causing real genuine belevers in jesus christ to stumble the way jesus says at mathew 18?.
You Know,
You have a very lopsided veiw of things I think.
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Giving away the faults and misteps of the brothers is not "telling the truth"---not in Jehovah's judgment anyway---and Jehovah's legal opinions are the only ones that count. What Ray Franz divulged amounts to gossip---really. I know much more about the Society's shortcomings, as regards prophecy, then Ray Franz ever could have imagined, yet, I have no desire or inclination to set such stumbling blocks before others.
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You need to be fair in aplying this. You can't just aply it to those who left.
To be fair you have to aply it to all, including the WT itself, to do otherwise is a double standard and gross hypocrisy.
And if we aply it to all equally then the WT should never piont out flaws of other religions.
Any religion can hide behide reasoning like yours, and then we should just except what ever they say because it's wrong to talk about their flaws.
Please be reasonable just this once, You Know!
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matthew 18: 6,7 "if anyone should cause one of these little ones to turn away from his faith in me, it would be better for that man to have a large millstone tied around his neck and be drowned in the deep sea.. how terrible for the world that there are things that make people turn away!
such things will alway happen--but how terrible for the one who causes them.".
has the governing body really been responcible for causing real genuine belevers in jesus christ to stumble the way jesus says at mathew 18?.
Matthew 18: 6,7 "If anyone should cause one of these little ones to turn away from his faith in me, it would be better for that man to have a large millstone tied around his neck and be drowned in the deep sea.
How terrible for the world that there are things that make people turn away! Such things will alway happen--but how terrible for the one who causes them."
Has the Governing body really been responcible for causing real genuine belevers in Jesus Christ to stumble the way Jesus says at Mathew 18?
I would like to save these comments that you all make on my hard drive? pro or con wanted!
Thanks Winston.
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i would like to know your view, is the watchtower organization under a curse!!!?.
i feel they are; here is why:.
1) galatians 1:8 however even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond what we declared to you as good news let him be accursed.. has the watchtower gone beyond what paul declared as good news or is it the same as paul taught.. wt good news is all about them and how they are gods organization and if you recognize them you will be saved (of coarse they dont leave out jesus), its just that its of secondary importance because now his kingdom has been born and we all need to not doubt them that they are gods organization, to get life.. 2) 2peter3:16 mentions that some ...are twisting ,as they do the rest of the scriptures to their own destruction.. is the wt twisting scriptures to their own destruction?.
Hello,
I would like to know your view, is the Watchtower Organization under a CURSE!!!?
I feel they are; here is why:
1) Galatians 1:8 “However even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond what we declared to you as good news let him be accursed.”
Has the watchtower gone beyond what Paul declared as good news or is it the same as Paul taught.
WT good news is all about them and how they are God’s Organization and if you recognize them you will be saved (of coarse they don’t leave out Jesus), it’s just that it’s of secondary importance because now his kingdom has been born and we all need to not doubt them that they are God’s Organization, to get life.
2) 2Peter3:16 mentions that some “…are twisting ,as they do the rest of the Scriptures to their own destruction.”
Is the wt twisting scriptures to their own destruction?
Do they follow the scriptures really, or do they give them a little twist here and their to fit what they want them to say?
Does the WT really love its members and would never think of keeping them in darkness on purpose.
Will they correct a wrong understanding of Scripture as soon as it is brought clearly and humbly to their attention, or will they DF the messenger.
Do these Scriptures only apply to those outside of the WT Org. or to anyone including the WT.
I invite further imput.
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if you were granted to speak 100 words or less before the g.b.
and entire bethel family what would you say?
( all right maybe more than 100 words).
Excuse me for getting a little mushy in my last post but I was overcome with sadness for some and what they been thru. I don't like to let my feeling show.
I feel that if your able to express your feelings you are so much better off than bottling it up. But its so hard sometime.
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