Posts by Winston

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What is faith REALLY?

by Silverleaf in

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i've been interested in the discussion on the 'for those of us who believe in god' thread and aguest wrote this:.

"we have been misled into understand what 'faith' really is.".

if we have all been misled, then can someone explain what exactly faith really is?

Winston

Shelby,

Thanks for your honest answer to my questions.

I'm sorry you had to answer them so late at nite, at least if you are living on the east coast it was late.

About this voice that you feel is God talking to you, please don't misunderstand me but maybe it could just be your own mind playing tricks on you.
It happens to all of us sometimes.
Please don't feel that I respect you less if I say this, I don't. We can all at times get to feeling we must be somebody special,and that maybe God will use us in some special way.

Maybe we have been through some hard times and we just need a little rest, maybe some counseling, or a little medication to give our minds and hearts time and space to heal.

Shelby please go see a professional and get some help do it for your family for those that really love you.

I say this with concern and don't mean any harm, I'm sorry if I may have at anytime been less than that.

Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!

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What is faith REALLY?

by Silverleaf in

jw
friends

i've been interested in the discussion on the 'for those of us who believe in god' thread and aguest wrote this:.

"we have been misled into understand what 'faith' really is.".

if we have all been misled, then can someone explain what exactly faith really is?

Winston

Shelby,

That's some interesting stuff.
So as you said Jesus died for the whole world, and that includes all life, plant, and animal.

So my questions are will all the amoebas and all other one types of one celled animals get everlasting life if they excersize faith in Jesus?

Also what will the quality of life be like for these one celled creatures? Will they be of a divine nature?

Will they rule with Christ in heaven? Will they judge angels?
And how do these one celled creature show godly love?

I hope I didn't ask too many questions, but your response to Dwilt made me think of these.

Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!

46

1975 Reaction

by MadApostate in

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this past weekend, one of the few remaining jw relatives who will still discuss jw stuff with me told me about his recently attending a home bible study being conducted by an elder.

evidently, the study had been told or had picked up some info about the 1975 fiasco.

the elder totally denied that the society had stated or even led people to believe that armageddon would occur in 1975, and he naturally blamed some individual jws for misinterpreting the society's materials.

Winston

You Know,

So are you saying 2 wrongs make a right?

Yes, apprently they more or less did. According to the last chapter of John, the word went out from them (the apostles) to the brothers, that John would not die before Jesus returned. Apparently that was a common belief among the brothers up until the aged apostle himself wrote the gospel account and cleared up the misunderstanding.

I thought that the wise thing for a person to do is to learn from our own and others mistakes. Why don't you learn from yours and the mistakes you mentioned here?
Why do you keep repeating this same mistake you so cleaverly brought out.

Where is your loyalty to Jesus words about " no man knows the day or hour not even the Son of man"

Your failed predictions only emphasize the wisdom of not going beyound the things written.

Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!

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You Can Have True Faith - Oct 1, 2001 WT

by MrMoe in

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any comments on the latest watchtower?

just got it in the mail today.

it discusses your faith, true faith, lost faith and to follow the bible.

Winston

Gopher,

I'm gonna use that, thanks.

Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!

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You Can Have True Faith - Oct 1, 2001 WT

by MrMoe in

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friends

any comments on the latest watchtower?

just got it in the mail today.

it discusses your faith, true faith, lost faith and to follow the bible.

Winston

MrMoe,

I still get my suscription but I don't read them any more usaully I just toss'em in the garbage.

When I get home tonite I'll see if mine came yet and take a look and see what I can make fun of.

Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!

47

What is faith REALLY?

by Silverleaf in

jw
friends

i've been interested in the discussion on the 'for those of us who believe in god' thread and aguest wrote this:.

"we have been misled into understand what 'faith' really is.".

if we have all been misled, then can someone explain what exactly faith really is?

Winston

Larc,

Maybe you ask if you could do a miracle or 2 since tapes can be altered and your wife knows that.

Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!

47

What is faith REALLY?

by Silverleaf in

jw
friends

i've been interested in the discussion on the 'for those of us who believe in god' thread and aguest wrote this:.

"we have been misled into understand what 'faith' really is.".

if we have all been misled, then can someone explain what exactly faith really is?

Winston

Larc,

Would that be audio or video tape?

Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!

47

What is faith REALLY?

by Silverleaf in

jw
friends

i've been interested in the discussion on the 'for those of us who believe in god' thread and aguest wrote this:.

"we have been misled into understand what 'faith' really is.".

if we have all been misled, then can someone explain what exactly faith really is?

Winston

Larc,

So if God did tell you directly to do something you would do it.

I think your actions would then be an expression of faith, and good use of knowledge.

What if he told you to go out to the desert and live in tents and you did it. I think that action would be your expression of faith in Him.

Abraham had a choice and he didn't have to live as an alien or as good as offer up his son as a sacrifice.

He trusted God and he did both.

Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!

47

What is faith REALLY?

by Silverleaf in

jw
friends

i've been interested in the discussion on the 'for those of us who believe in god' thread and aguest wrote this:.

"we have been misled into understand what 'faith' really is.".

if we have all been misled, then can someone explain what exactly faith really is?

Winston

To me I think faith that the Bible talks about is more like trust.

Abraham had faith and did what God asked even though he didn't know all the details, he didn't have to have everything spelled out before he acted but did what ever God asked not knowing all the why and what-ifs.

I think faith is trusting what God says in his word without having to know every detail and living a life that shows that trust like Abraham.

Thats my little rhetorical thrust on Faith.

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Regarding Candles

by silentlambs in

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this is my first time to be back on the boards in about a week, much to follow up on and i have quite a story to tell regarding the events of the last week.

before i go into that though i would like to make a clarification for all concerned regarding our family business.

while i do appreciate the efforts to offer support personally, it has never been the intent to profit in any way from silentlambs.

Winston

Bill,

I have tremendeous respect for you Bill.

You made a very good point here.

And I wish you all the sucess in what you are trying to do, what you just said here gave me a lot to respect for you and your wife.