StAnn- I can't imagine not missing my family, but I do realize their love is conditional. This is through no fault of their own, though, only the conditioning they've unknowingly received. I've already resigned myself that they'll never get out- they're too far in. That's why it's so emotionally wrenching that I would be the one to inflict any change in our relationship.
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This is so difficult
by dissonance_resolved inso i woke up a few months ago and had no idea what to expect.
at first i was outraged that i had been lied to all these years and so sad that i lost so many years of my life to a cult.
in the past couple of weeks though, i've actually been having second thoughts.
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2013 CONVENTION
by The Searcher inwell?
we're all waiting on the other side of the pond to hear the latest "new lights" being revealed - it'll save us waiting - sometime for months!!.
seriously, due to past articles & teachings - especially july 15th 2013 - the rumblings of people awakening are clearly being heard.. hence christ's repeated warnings about "staying awake" and "keeping on the watch" as well as 'testing inspired expressions' to see where they really originate!.
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Sounds like a rebranding campaign to me.
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This is so difficult
by dissonance_resolved inso i woke up a few months ago and had no idea what to expect.
at first i was outraged that i had been lied to all these years and so sad that i lost so many years of my life to a cult.
in the past couple of weeks though, i've actually been having second thoughts.
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So I woke up a few months ago and had no idea what to expect. At first I was outraged that I had been lied to all these years and so sad that I lost so many years of my life to a cult. In the past couple of weeks though, I've actually been having second thoughts. If I go through with my plan to fade, the pain that my family will experience will be very real- yes, they are delusional, but they will honestly believe that I've forfeited everlasting life and turned my back on them and everything we stand for. I love them so much and can't imagine my life without them. I don't know what to do. This dilemma of course is about my parents and siblings.
The situation with my husband turned a corner this week. He is now fully aware of the extent of my disagreements with the WTBTS. He was very quiet and supportive and loving, but I know I also just blew his world apart. On top of that, he's very sick, so it hasn't been a happy time n our household. I feel more lost and confused than ever.
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How Long has it Been since you Last Attended Meetings and What Caused...
by flipper in..... you to stop attending ?
injustices ?
disagree with the teachings ?
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I attended a meeting last weekend. Maybe it could be my last? I wish I never had to go back but it's difficult. It's like picking the day you're going to die, at least as far as my uberdub family is concerned. I'm going to spend some time with them this month and I feel like it's going to be basically saying goodbye.
Anyhow, I woke up recently when I heard a GB member explaining the new light on the FDS. I was close enough that he was looking me in the eye and suddenly I just realized this man was lying. He's claiming to be God's sole channel to mankind today and is trying out this "new light" to see how it goes over before being shared with the masses. It was very odd that he kept referring to the FDS in the third person, but everyone knew he's a GB member. It was very much a 'man behind the curtain' experience.
So I don't know when my last meeting will be, but if it hasn't happened already, it will be very,very soon.
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Husband has joined me in being inactive.
by Julia Orwell inthat's right, and it's great!
i don't know exactly why because he hasn't turned apostate and still seems to believe jw things.
i don't feel comfortable in asking him why he doesn't go to meetings anymore for some reason, or find out what he believes and if the things i've told him bout ttatt influenced his decision.
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Julia- That's great to hear! Between you and brain melt, it gives me hope. Unfortunately, my hubby has been circling the wagons and stoking up the fire of cognitive dissonance as I've tried to cut back. Hopefully we can follow in your footsteps soon.
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Wow, the crap that they will believe....
by okage inabout a week ago, i posted that my sister in law believes the earthquake in china is proof that there are more earthquakes today than before.
i posted the details that i sent her that show hands down that there is no increase in earthquakes.
and i also posted that she never replied.
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If the GB wanted to "help" every JW get to paradise sooner, all they'd have to do is declare new light that at the next Memorial, everyone should partake. Then tell the elders to poison the wine. Everyone would think it was so exciting and such a privilege to partake- they would totally do it. Cult.
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Psychoanalyzing the Governing Body as a Collective Body by what they cause to be written in literature and private letters:
by frankiespeakin innow would any "psychologist" on the board and i use the term loosely as i am not one professionally , and have a very rudimentary hazy knowledge of analysis.. but one of the things jung had to do with the subject is the shadow to be properly analyzed one needs to recognize the shadow we all have we all have one.
and what happens when we repress a lot of things and stuff them into ones personal shadow, they get stronger and cause projection on the outside world that make one respond certain ways that might be termed as phobias or neurosis and even psychosis.. im sure we can spot a lot of denial and repression surfacing in what they cause to be published either publicly and in private correspondence.
perhaps even some phobias or out right neurosis.. i bett you a really skilled psychologist could have a fruit picking holiday with the stuff they find on the net already published far and wide for all to see.
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Wow, that talk by Freddy Franz about all the mistakes between 1914 and 1935 was really eye- opening! Interesting that he pointed out they were not teaching the truth in 1918, a period during which they were supposedly being inspected by Jesus. Also thought it was strange that he concluded by saying how he hoped this review of "facts" about JW history would be faith-strengthening.... ?????? " we used to think this, but we were wrong, then we thought this and that was wrong too, then this next thing was a big mistake, but NOW we really know we're right!". How would that possiBly strengthen faith? Fast forward to the July 15 WT and deja vu!
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My Final Goodbye
by Lady Lee ini want to start by saying i will not participate in discussion here about my resignation as a moderator at jwn.. simon please consider this as my resignation from that position.. i have been posting on this board for almost 12 years.
i know some of you a lot, others a little and some not very well at all.
i have remained here for those of you who have needed support as you make the transition out of the wts, who needed someone to listen to your experiences of abuse at the hands of jehovah's witnesses, and to both laugh and cry with you as you progress out of the watchtower society.. we know that we have all experienced the cruelty of abuse of one kind or another.
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Lady Lee- in the short time I've been here, I've appreciated your support and suggestions. I haven't been paying much attention to all this nonsense beten JWN and AAWA and don't really get what's gong on, but I do wish you the best in your future endeavors.
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Avoiding the subject
by dissonance_resolved inso as i progress in my fade, i've started to notice a curious phenomenon.
just when i think this will be the missed meeting/ field service/ assembly that will cause all heck to break to loose- no one says anything.
this includes immediate family and extended family in the same congregation.
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So as I progress in my fade, I've started to notice a curious phenomenon. Just when I think this will be the missed meeting/ field service/ assembly that will cause all heck to break to loose- NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING. This includes immediate family and extended family in the same congregation. When the see me, it's like nothing unusual ever happened. I just wonder if maybe we are more paranoid than we need to be. If I could just slip away with no bother, it would be so much better for everyone involved. But of course, the FDS is never going to publish the fact that it's ok to just step out. If they really wanted to keep things together, I.e. keep folks who are no longer believers from hanging out just so they can keep speaking to family, they could just send a letter to all elders and say, if publishers stop reporting field service, offer encouragement and then LEAVE THEM ALONE. My two cents for the lurkers from the writing department.
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Need advice in my fade
by dissonance_resolved ini'm about 4 months into my fade- things were going ok at first.
if i didn't get ready to go to the meeting or fs, neither did my family.
recently, hubby has become more sensitive and now will take the family whether i go or not.
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I do think there is hope for my hubby, which is why I've been playing the waiting game. It would be much better for our children and our marriage if we were on the same page about this. If it's a matter of waiting a few more months and having him wake up, it seems worthwhile to not draw the line in the sand now. Our marriage has not always been the greatest, but has actually improved since I've woken up since I'm more relaxed and happier in general. I think he sees that and is trying to figure it out. I think I just need to decide on a time frame of how long to wait- I've been thinking of September when we study the new light in the WT- keep it sporadic til then and just not go back. Do everything I can between now and then to help hubby wake up and then just leave it in Jehovah's hands (lol, thought stopper!). Also, I'm trying to keep things as normal as possible for my kids, school activities and friends and so forth, and have been asking them lots of questions to get them thinking. Oy, wish me luck, I'm going to need it! (Still the twinge of guilt about referring to luck...)