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  Why Men Will Never Win

  by teejay in

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  if you put a woman on a pedestal and try to protect her from the rat race, you are a male chauvinist.. if you stay home and do the housework, you are a pansy.. if you work too hard, there is never any time for her.. if you don't work enough, you are a good for nothing bum.. if she has a boring repetitive job with low pay, it is exploitation.. if you have a boring repetitive job with low pay, you should get off your rear and find something better.. if you get a promotion ahead of her, it's favoritism.. if she gets job ahead of you, it's equal opportunity.. if you mention how nice she looks, it's sexual harassment.. if you keep quiet, it's male indifference.. if you cry, you are a wimp.. if you don't, you are insensitive.. if you make a decision without consulting her, you are a chauvinist.. if she makes a decision without consulting you, she's liberated woman.. if you ask her to do something she doesn't enjoy, that's domination.. if she asks you, it's a favor.. if you appreciate the female form and frilly underwear, you are a pervert.. if you don't, you are gay.. if you like a woman to shave her legs and keep in shape, you are a sexist.. if you don't, you are unromantic.. if you try to keep yourself in shape, you are vain.. if you don't, you are a slob.. if you buy her flowers, you are after something.. if you don't, you are not thoughtful.. if you are proud of your achievements, you are full of yourself.. if you don't, you are not ambitious.. if she has a headache, she is tired.. if you have a headache, you don't love her anymore.. if you want it too often, you are over-sexed.. if you don't, there must be someone else.

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  I don't get what the problem is...makes perfect sense to ME teejay
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  May I have your attention please?

  by WildHorses in

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  i have a suggestion.

  ok, we do not want to lose people like farkel, alan, mind..........hmmmmmmmmmm, this fluff mind is drawing a blank on names here.

  hmmmm, oh yeah focus is one.

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  Lets face it the fluffy posters outnumber the serious ones. So when a fluffy thread goes up it gets lots more posts than a serious one. My solution? Very easy...either Simon assignes several "fluffers" to a serious poster aka "meathead" or we can choose our own...then we do the best that we can to follow them around and say things like:

  "Wow! I couldn't have said that better myself"

  "Golly Gee, I sure wish I had thought of that myself"

  "Geepers I never would have left the org. without someone like you posting information like this online"

  "This information is going to bring the WT to it's KNEES! Way to go dude!"

  "I appreciate ALL the time and effort you put into doing this research just for ME!"

  "He didn't really mean to be rude or callous....he is just very very smart and doesn't need to be bothered with manners"

  If we can focus our fluffers to the extent of getting them to do this...well we just might be able to save this board...

  So I challenge each and every "fluffer" to pick their "meathead" counterparts and get to work massaging those egos!

  Xena of the sarcastic morning class

  PS Hi Tat
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  Should I post here anymore?

  by Mindchild in

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  that is the question i've been asking myself.

  i'm not trolling for attention with this post.

  nobody has hurt my feelings.

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  Hey Mind,

  Just a few comments on your post...

  When you put in those hours researching something who exactly are you doing it for? Yourself or someone else? Do you get nothing out of it? Is the research you have done for nothing if no one else posts to it? Have you ever looked at how many people read it and maybe not post to it? I read posts sometimes and agree with them but don't say so just because I didn't realize that positive affirmation was required...lol also I have been scared to post on any serious topic since I got my head shoved up my ass last time by some one who needed to show me exactly how intellectually superior they were to me.

  Yes I like to get posts to threads I start too..don't we all? But I understand that not EVERYONE cares about or is interested in the same things I am....gee maybe I should leave...maybe what I have to say isn't important...but you know what a big part of what I post is for ME. I posted about my sister because I felt a need to vent. To put my feelings in words...you have no idea how much better it felt...lol I was suprised at how much better I felt. Was it nice to hear from people about it? HELL yes! But ultimately I did it for me...

  I really can't believe you said this either

  better community to hang out in

  Please define better to me...I am with uncle bruce on this one...I mean who the hell do you think you are? Just because I don't want to post to some heavy hitting JW topic suddenly I am inferior? Gee is that like being inferior cause you don't want to pioneer or reach out to be an MS or elder? Yikes JW flashbacks...

  This is a GREAT community of people...these are for the most part kind, intelligent, witty, thoughtful people and I am sick and tired of psudo intellectial people putting anyone on here down for what they do and don't post to.

  Simon has made a forum for Bible Research, he has made a forum for Cover-ups, there is a forum for Beliefs, for JW News...if you don't like the fluff..don't LOOK AT IT...

  And one last thing...I can't help but wonder why people feel the need to completely cut themselves off from here...uuummm can't do more than one board at once? lol go and find your "serious" board where all they talk about is the UN or other ways they are going to take the Watchtower down..but does that mean you have to completely cut yourself off from the people here who have opened themselves up to you and befriended you?

  Ok I am done now..whew..time to hit the mall..and dispense the fluff on a personal level...
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  And they talk about love?

  by Xena in

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  with the 4th anniversary of my parents death looming and the anniversary of their last wedding anniversary party where my family was together and happy for the last time just being past ....i was feeling kind of depressed and wanted to reach out to what family i have left.

  i sat there and debated in my mind if i should do it...should i try and reach out to my sister..see if i could reach her across the barrier of the jw religion.

  should i try to remind her that we are sisters...we were sisters before we became jws and we will always be sisters.

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  After having inbibed some herbs I have calmed down..and feel much better thank you all

  closer - thank you for the support....can I have a pic too???

  voltaire - You are so right about the darker side of the borg..I was given a big dose of JW reality today!

  Frank - I am sorry to hear you have to put up with a family member like my sister! My heart goes out to you. And thank you for making me feel so special.

  Julie - she is so tied up in the JW world Julie I don't think she even misses us. But maybe one day....

  Rhett - Don't worry I don't plan on hiding anymore

  Jayhawk - You know it is funny you mentioned that about your friend...my dad used to say when he was in the military that he would put his country before his family...my sister was disgusted by his attitude...and now she has the same one...

  Mulan - Acutally she called me back tonight...I missed the call...she just left a brief abrupt message that we need to talk...I think she is just upset because I hung up on her mid tirate...haven't decided if I will call her back or not.

  Princess - I am looking forward to getting to know you better

  terafera - I am sorry to hear about what you have been having to go thru! I loved the quote "You're having a NORMAL reaction to a very UNNORMAL situation" I think that is perfect for our situation...thank you!

  LB - I know LB she is just doing what she has been told..over and over and over...sad isn't it?

  orangefatcat - lol I was always the "black sheep" too...funny they didn't think I was going to make it into the paradise even when I was going to meetings...don't know why they care so much I stopped

  Prisca - Thank you Prisca...and may the fluff be with you too

  silentlambs - thank you for that insightful story and I am sorry you are also estranged from your sister!

  refiners - thank you for the kind words refiners!personal foibles???

  Sam Beli - Please tell your wife how sorry I am about her sister...funny with the holidays and all I really haven't kept track of the days...I noticed after I posted that it was the anniversary of her death on the 4th...that would be today now...You sound like a good man Sam I hope to meet both you and your wife someday soon!

  Jerry - Thank you for your kind words...you are a real gentleman you know that? And I am not just saying that because you give me beer! (Sigh) Even when they are religious fanatics it is still hard to let go of the hope that maybe one day....but I guess it is time to move on and let go of it...

  Thank you one and all for the good thoughts, kind words, great advice and for just being there.
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  And they talk about love?

  by Xena in

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  with the 4th anniversary of my parents death looming and the anniversary of their last wedding anniversary party where my family was together and happy for the last time just being past ....i was feeling kind of depressed and wanted to reach out to what family i have left.

  i sat there and debated in my mind if i should do it...should i try and reach out to my sister..see if i could reach her across the barrier of the jw religion.

  should i try to remind her that we are sisters...we were sisters before we became jws and we will always be sisters.

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  I am sorry I am having a pity party today

  Mum, funny how they teach the lack of natural affection as a sign of one of the last days huh? lol shame they can't see the irony!

  Muslima, you are right I just need to realize it is her loss

  Julie, thank you...funny you kinda remind me of my sister before she became a JW...lol and that is NOT an insult! She used to be a very intelligent strong women...I am sad to see what she has become.

  Lilacs, you are just a love!

  GDW, I called a "worldly" friend after I got off the phone with my sister...wow the warmth and love I got from her were such a contrast from my "sister"!

  WW , thank you for your kindness and support!
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  Suicide and This and That .....

  by Celtic in

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  how many of you have really gone through suicidal feelings, when you felt that no-one at all was out there to try to assist you?

  did it help you to be told by so called friends, 'just pull your socks up!

  ' did you feel that such admonition was really daft and stupidly uncaring?

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  Up until my daughter was born I had considered suicide a few times...felt that there was nothing good in my life, that I was worthless and nothing and no one could change it... I managed with help and several drugs to get past it. Since my daughter was born I could not conceive doing that to her. Both my grandmothers committed suicide and I know the psycological damage it did to my parents even though they were both adults when it happened.

  Threats of suicide and the act itself is a cry for help from someone who can't see any other way to get help and who doesn't feel there is anyone in the world who would care if they were gone. At least that is what it was for me...

  I think most of the people on this board are caring giving thoughtful people...I have seen them reach out to ones who are hurting...everyone deals with things in different ways and sometimes we don't fully understand why someone is acting out the way they are. There are some very strong people on this board and I don't think they aren't compassionate Celtic, I think that they just have a hard time understanding where someone who is having a harder time dealing with things is coming from. Empathy usually only comes when you have been there and done that.

  On the portion of your post concerning why people post to the fluff and not the more serious postings...well I can't answer for anyone else but I don't usually like to share my deeper feelings...I don't like to be open...I feel like shit because I admitted twice now that I cry...lol it is funny people that know me in real life would have a hard time believeing that I did admit that...I tend to keep my emotions very close and use humor to cover over my pain. I don't like to deal with it and I don't like to be reminded of it. This is the place I come to get away from it. This is my refuge...where I come to try and forget the pain and totally fucked up life I have...can you understand that?
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  And they talk about love?

  by Xena in

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  with the 4th anniversary of my parents death looming and the anniversary of their last wedding anniversary party where my family was together and happy for the last time just being past ....i was feeling kind of depressed and wanted to reach out to what family i have left.

  i sat there and debated in my mind if i should do it...should i try and reach out to my sister..see if i could reach her across the barrier of the jw religion.

  should i try to remind her that we are sisters...we were sisters before we became jws and we will always be sisters.

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  With the 4th anniversary of my parents death looming and the anniversary of their last wedding anniversary party where my family was together and happy for the last time just being past ….I was feeling kind of depressed and wanted to reach out to what family I have left. I sat there and debated in my mind if I should do it…should I try and reach out to my sister..see if I could reach her across the barrier of the JW religion. Should I try to remind her that we are SISTERS…we were sisters before we became JW’s and we will ALWAYS be sisters. Should I try and remind her of the good times we had together? The laughter and tears shared? Would it even matter to her anymore?

  I picked up the phone and called….she answered….she acted like she didn’t recognize my voice…lol it sounds almost exactly like her own…then when I told her who it was she said it sounded like I had a cold. I told her I had been crying (yes I was crying AGAIN I have "issues" ok)…I told her I missed her…was she touched…did she say she missed me too? Noooo in a very harsh matter of fact way she told me that I knew that until I changed my life she couldn’t have anything to do with me….that I knew what the scriptures said. I asked her “Can’t we put religion aside for a moment and just be sisters?”….no we can’t…she started to go off on how she loved me BUT …I told her I could feel the love…I told her that she loved her religion more than she loved me ….but that was ok at least now I knew where I stood…and as she started to tell me how and why Jehovah should be more important…I hung up the phone….

  Funny I call up crying…but all she cares about is not getting spiritually dirty by talking to me. Yes I can feel the love…she didn’t even care why I was crying…you would have thought she would have shown a little concern…a little of that “love” they talk about so much. So you have to wonder is she just a heartless bitch that just happens to be a JW or did the JW’s make her a heartless bitch…lol which came first? She was always tough…a very forthright person, but there used to be a softer side…I wonder where it went…is it still somewhere under that self righteous judgmental person? If I had ever even remotely considered going back this certainly would have completely put me off it!!!!!

  I have been hiding who I am because I didn’t want to get d/fed…because I hoped to still be able to associate with my family. I have denied myself the freedom of expression for someone like this? I think I have finally realized that the time has come to just be myself…who I really want to be…and to do so openly and with pride in the fact that I am a good person who has finally realized that I do not want to be in bondage to a religion that not only allows but encourages people to treat members of their own family that way.

  Time to shake it off and like a butterfly coming out of the cocoon spread my wings and finally fly……..

  Lol and probably fall on my face…but pick myself back up again and try and try again….
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  Can You Believe It? It's snowing in Victoria!

  by ozziepost in

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  yes folks, while new south wales swelters in 40 degree plus heat and some of the worst bush fires on record, it's actually snowing on the victorian alps!

  news clips on tonight's tv news show kids having snow ball fights and making snowmen.

  this is sure strange weather at the moment.

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  Snowed here in Austin, Texas last night....hhhmmmm does that mean hell is about to freeze over????
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  12/15/2001 WT; Christmas ok if married to non-JW?

  by Alleymom in

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  i was wondering if someone has the full text of the article on p.28 of the 12/15/2001 wt, in the questions from readers?.

  i understand that there is an article which appears, to some, to indicate a softening of attitude regarding christmas.

  i'm told that it is now ok for a jw wife married to a non-jw husband to participate in some family christmas activities as long as she doesn't regard this as an act of worship.. i would really like to have a copy of the exact wording.. many thanks!.

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  lol outnfree, good for you...using the submission angle to your own advantage! I had the "misfortune" of having a JW hubby...at least till recently...thanks for the pointers!
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  The demise of Andee

  by GoldDustWoman in

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  i have decided to start the new year with a new jw.com username.. my "compelling" reasons:.

  1. i often get confused with that sweet, adorable, and extremely funny, texan, "andi" (billygoat).

  however, when i get thanked for .

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  Xena

  There are just so many options belbab......

  GDW
  GoldDW
  Goldy
  Dusty
  GDWoman

  sigh....what to do..what to do...the fluffy mind boggles