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  Like Father, Like Son

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when faced with awkward questions about the morality of god many christians respond by distancing themselves from the old testament and focusing on "gentle jesus meek and mild" of the new testament.. for bible-believing christians this is intellectually dishonest.. according to christian dogma jesus was the god of abraham isaac and jacob.

  the logos, the alpha and omega who is "the same yesterday, today, and forever.".

  he claimed that "he that has seen me has seen the father" and that "i and the father are one".. in short, christians assert that jesus is almighty god from all eternity.. it therefore follows that jesus was the god who ordered the nation of israel to take slaves as inheritable possessions.

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  I've seen this "the Israelites couldn't kidnap" defense on the issue of slavery several times, but I'm still waiting to see why this matters.

  "You can buy humans, but don't you go stealing them!"
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  Only a few days ago I was entirely lost and without hope the rug was pulled out from under me

  by elderess in

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  2. friends

  only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.

  then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.

  thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.

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  Unicorns are hard to find, finding two of them in the same bed, that's much harder.

  You've won the lottery, and looks like you're going to spend your fortune well. Congrats to you both and welcome to the real world!
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  what buzz word from the jw's do you hate & why?

  by Sabin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my hubby has been on a bit of a roll about the jdubs, we were talking a lot about them & he said the buzz word he hate's the most is "worldly" why?

  because he say's "with that one word they have condemned (according to their believes) a person as being worthy of nothing but death.

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  Encouragement

  Which is code for brainwashing.
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  Like Father, Like Son

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when faced with awkward questions about the morality of god many christians respond by distancing themselves from the old testament and focusing on "gentle jesus meek and mild" of the new testament.. for bible-believing christians this is intellectually dishonest.. according to christian dogma jesus was the god of abraham isaac and jacob.

  the logos, the alpha and omega who is "the same yesterday, today, and forever.".

  he claimed that "he that has seen me has seen the father" and that "i and the father are one".. in short, christians assert that jesus is almighty god from all eternity.. it therefore follows that jesus was the god who ordered the nation of israel to take slaves as inheritable possessions.

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  If I were a Christian I would also try to avoid discussing this aspect of Christianity, which is the point that Cofty is making here.

  "But that was the Old Testament" is proffered over and over again out there in the real world. No, it's not said by professional Christian apologists (for the most part), but it is said over and over again my millions of nominal Christians. I've been hearing it for 40 years.

  The point here is the separation of the Son from the Father and Yahweh in the minds of many Christians, not just the atrocities committed by Yahweh.

  
  
  
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  Like Father, Like Son

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when faced with awkward questions about the morality of god many christians respond by distancing themselves from the old testament and focusing on "gentle jesus meek and mild" of the new testament.. for bible-believing christians this is intellectually dishonest.. according to christian dogma jesus was the god of abraham isaac and jacob.

  the logos, the alpha and omega who is "the same yesterday, today, and forever.".

  he claimed that "he that has seen me has seen the father" and that "i and the father are one".. in short, christians assert that jesus is almighty god from all eternity.. it therefore follows that jesus was the god who ordered the nation of israel to take slaves as inheritable possessions.

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  God does something that appears to be good, the Christian appreciates the goodness of God.

  God does something that appears to be not good, the Christian doesn't understand the mind of God.

  Kind of like a mother whose son is a serial killer, she loves him anyway.
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  OKAY, GAME OVER! The number one reason the New Testament amounts to bunk

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for me, the dead giveaway is this.

  jesus wrote nothing.. stop and think about that.. if jesus were the authentic messiah, his ministry would not simply be local.. his instructions, his mission, the details of his teachings would be too precious to risk leaving it in the hands of "men unlettered (illiterate) and ordinary (blue-collar yokels).".

  jesus, were he the one and only hope of mankind, would be absolutely certain to write down with great simplicity and specificity the exact owner's manual necessary to rescue mankind.. never happened!.

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  Yeah Cofty, quit quoting Moses. Yahweh would never endorse let alone tolerate genocide, misogyny, infanticide, polygamy, slavery, forced marriage/rape and so on. Yahweh was all about showing the love to everyone, everywhere.

  Who wrote the story about Yahweh drowning innocent children during a worldwide flood? Moses! You're so busted Cofty, BIG TIME. As Sye Ten Bruggencate would say, "You're done, you're finished."

  Next you'll be claiming that Yahweh endorsed abortion by high priests using dirt off the tabernacle floor mixed with water.
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  OKAY, GAME OVER! The number one reason the New Testament amounts to bunk

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for me, the dead giveaway is this.

  jesus wrote nothing.. stop and think about that.. if jesus were the authentic messiah, his ministry would not simply be local.. his instructions, his mission, the details of his teachings would be too precious to risk leaving it in the hands of "men unlettered (illiterate) and ordinary (blue-collar yokels).".

  jesus, were he the one and only hope of mankind, would be absolutely certain to write down with great simplicity and specificity the exact owner's manual necessary to rescue mankind.. never happened!.

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  OKAY, GAME OVER! The number one reason the New Testament amounts to bunk

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for me, the dead giveaway is this.

  jesus wrote nothing.. stop and think about that.. if jesus were the authentic messiah, his ministry would not simply be local.. his instructions, his mission, the details of his teachings would be too precious to risk leaving it in the hands of "men unlettered (illiterate) and ordinary (blue-collar yokels).".

  jesus, were he the one and only hope of mankind, would be absolutely certain to write down with great simplicity and specificity the exact owner's manual necessary to rescue mankind.. never happened!.

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  the liberator:

  Childhood indoctrination leads to a greater number of (insert anything you want here).
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  Today's Daily Text - Being Uneducated And Ordinary... WTF!!!

  by Divergent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thursday, march 3. they were uneducated and ordinary men.—acts 4:13.. in recent years, the spiritual instruction provided by jehovah’s organization has reflected an increased emphasis on simplicity and clarity.

  consider three examples.

  first, there is the simplified edition of the watchtower.

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  And all this time I was thinking the WTFBS was teaching people to read and expanding their vocabulary. Stupid me!
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  How to spot faders or "closeted" apostates in a congregation / meeting?

  by nevaagain in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i am awoken for several years now (never really bought the cool aid) but for family reasons i am still enduring everything.

  but my wife knows ... .

  anyway so yesterday we had this boring meeting and as i was sitting there trying to make time pass faster i looked around me and i thought who else feels the same as me and is completely bored?

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  We had an MS in our congregation go apostate last year, I watched the whole thing play out. He's gone, I'm still chair warmer, feeling like an idiot. Too bad he's never really done much on any of the xJW forums, cause I've beena lookin for em.

  I would never had guessed he was waking up until the very end when he started missing meetings.