put together the bible canon, came up with the name jehovah.
spread the basic christian message across the globe.
got rid of all the false gods of the roman empire and gods of other nations as well.
The GB always gave props to Christendom as part of the "net" (Matthew 13:47), since all these things are obvious. "Tell us about all that growth in Muslim countries again?"
However a few years ago GB 2.0 put the kibosh on that.
The bad fish used to be Catholics and Protestants, now it's old Bible students, inactives, and apostates.
well here am i, a couple of years passed since my original post (link here), somewhat less mysoginistic, more open to relationships, heartbroken again.
this is an official "fuck my life" thread.. being chased by the elders makes one arrive at the conclusion that there is nothing better than not being chased by the elders.
i had a pre-jc meeting a week ago.
Did you hear the one about the two Irish guys that walked out of a bar? Me neither.
having seen a few of these tv productions and some youtube clips of their assembly parts, how can jehovah's witnesses really take these silly little men seriously?.
you take one look at them; their overweight, fat little bodies.
their entirely shabby, overhanging suits.
If you can get a teenage girl to look lustfully at you, like good old Michael Travesser here obviously can ...
The GB got nothin' to worry about.
so just finished telling your concerns about the pedophiles cover up, failed prophecies, revisionists history and lack of financial transparency.
so elders ask you the questions.
" so does this mean you don't want to to be a jw anymore?
I want to really screw with an elder by saying:
"Some days I believe (insert anything here), some days I don't."
for anyone who denies that the wtbts teaches jehovah's witnesses & potential converts lies and perversions of scriptures via their literature, here is a prime example:
w88 2/15 p. 9 further corrective counsel - "but because of human imperfection, at times serious disputes will occur.
jesus also provides guidelines for handling them.
This isn't just an "elder" issue. This is a JW issue as a whole. It is supported by everyone, from the GB to the R & F. Don't forget, elders are brainwashed cult victims as well. I was one for 14 years.
has anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
There's being poor in developed countries, which isn't great, but then there is being poor in poor countries, and that is where real poverty lies.
Many people that support and have supported these forums grew up poor, myself included. I'm in the developed-country-poor category. Why? Because this cult preys on the poor and our poor parents or grandparents got sucked into this cult.
Poverty is not only about being poor moneywise, it is also about being poor educationally. Thanks to the web, I've been able to play catch-up over the last 6 years regarding philosophy, science, and history. I knew almost nothing about these subjects until I woke up and started doing REAL research and ACTUALLY learning.
This cult keeps people poor both not only in wealth, but also in education, which can be the vehicle that gets you out of poverty.
i am agnostic.
i will count how many agnostics, atheists and christians that are reading this forum regularly.
please answer my question.
ANTI-Jehovah's Witness Christian Theist
any elder has never asked me that question so far but i want to be prepared to answer that question if any of them ask me that question in the future.
i hope that they will never ask me that question.
any suggestions on how to answer that question would be very much appreciated.
Just to mess with them, tell that you give your confidence a 4 on a 10 scale.
Do not allow them to frame it as a black and white issue.
back in the "good old days", i would look for people in my territory, especially ministers in order to debate the trinity with them.
it was my pet subject that i had spent many hours over several years researching.
i was such a good anti-trinity apologist that i was actually disappointed with the trinity brochure when it came out.
Smiddy - "A Believer , The KI published by the WTB&TS a word for word translation on John 1:1 "In the beginning the word was and the word was with God and the word was god "
It is dishonest for them to say the word was "a" god that is not what the original text says in their KI."
Hey Smiddy,
The indefinite article is not used in koine Greek. Any place you see an "a" in ANY NT English translation can be considered an insertion and "not what the original text says". And besides, don't you know about the issue of an anarthrous noun in the predicate?
Note: I couldn't give two shits about the Trinity issue, I just want to show how apologetics are way too easy to create.
back in the "good old days", i would look for people in my territory, especially ministers in order to debate the trinity with them.
it was my pet subject that i had spent many hours over several years researching.
i was such a good anti-trinity apologist that i was actually disappointed with the trinity brochure when it came out.
"If you understand the nature of god of being invisible and untouchable and who scholars believe jesus was in the old testament ( the word of the lord or the angel of the lord), it's really not hard explain."
or
If you understand the the nature of a generation being long and multi-grouped and who JW scholars believe a generation was in the old testament (he and all his generation), it's really not hard to explain.
Could my point be made any clearer?
