Posts by Yadirf

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Fark, looked all over for YK's "apology"

by Tallyman in

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...but can't seem to find it anywhere - for all those insults he hurled.. has your patience run out?.

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Yadirf

BONG! BONG! This court will not come to order!

A MESSAGE TO ALL:

Has it actually been forgotten who it was that cast the first stone of offense here? I'm talking solely about the words between Tallyman and /You Know. Before /You Know had said anything at all to Tallyman, this is what Tallyman had said to him:

Hey Burned-Out Boobie Acidhead,
who the Phock gave YOU an "appointment" to "teach" the Discussion Board "domestics" all your slathering, slobbering, blithering Blather?
You STILL flashing back with those auditory hallucinations?... the 'voices' in your head giving you commands and appointments?

"Burned-Out Boobie Acidhead" -- now those weren't words of provocation, were they? Yes, they were meant to be nothing BUT provocative, not to mention the fact that it was slander. Was that not slander? If indeed slander has been committed here, WHO SLANDERED WHO FIRST?

"who the Phock gave YOU..." -- now those weren't words of provocation either, were they? Isn’t the word “Fuck” generally considered extremely inappropriate in most civilized circles? Honestly, I can’t really imagine any Lawyer being willing to defend you here, Tallyman … especially since you had been the first one to accomplish the very thing (slander) that you are complaining about.

I'll honestly tell you, my fine-feathered friend, Tallyman, after the way you come on to /You Know I'm really surprised that you have the audacity to register a complaint, even here on this forum. What I’m not surprised about is that you had supporters that never seems to have considered the points that I have brought up here.

END OF MESSAGE.

Yadirf

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Watchtower Lies Hurt Victims

by silentlambs in

if you read the 97 watchtower cited below you are given the impression that a child molester who is known(that is confessed) would never have privileges in the congregation arrangement.

is that really the case?

in a conversation with the service department it was plainly stated to me personally that a child molester could re-qualify again after a long period of time had passed.

Yadirf

Silentlambs

a man known to have been a child molester does NOT qualify for a responsible position in the congregation.

how would you define the word "not" in that sentence? again the impression is given that a child molester would never have any privledges other than what was stated in the article.--silentlambs.

I disagree that such an impression is given.

Question: Does that mean that the person would NEVER be considered for such a position?

If the analogy is used of, say for example, a person that has had their driver license taken away for having committed an infraction that deserved such a penalty: Simply because that person is said to NOT be qualified to possess a driver license at that point and time does not mean that the person will NEVER AGAIN be allowed to drive. Persons’ driver licenses are taken away because of having shown themselves unqualified to drive. Even though they might re-qualify later, just the same for the time being they are NOT qualified. Until they do re-qualify such a person is NOT allowed to drive, and this compares to the person that has committed the infraction of molesting a child, spoken about in the ’97 WT.

so yes, this will go up as further proof of wt policy and how silentlambs are harmed and lied to.

I still don’t see the “lie” that you claim is there.

Yadirf

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Watchtower Lies Hurt Victims

by silentlambs in

if you read the 97 watchtower cited below you are given the impression that a child molester who is known(that is confessed) would never have privileges in the congregation arrangement.

is that really the case?

in a conversation with the service department it was plainly stated to me personally that a child molester could re-qualify again after a long period of time had passed.

Yadirf

Silentlambs,

You appear to me to be looking so hard for a fault that your mind is inventing things in order to have found one.

You said:

If you read the 97 Watchtower cited below you are given the impression that a child molester who is “known”(that is confessed) would never have “privileges” in the Congregation arrangement. Is that really the case? ….Read the form letter…. Notice the paragraph at the end holds open the possibility of being used again after writing the Society first. So the question is who is lying, the Writing Department who wrote the 97 Watchtower, Service Department, or Legal Department? Either way you are being lied to.

Read it again Sam:

*** w97 1/1 29 Let Us Abhor What Is Wicked ***
If he seems to be repentant, he will be encouraged to make spiritual progress, share in the field service, even have parts in the Theocratic Ministry School and nonteaching parts in the Service Meeting. This does not mean, though, that he will qualify to serve in a position of responsibility in the congregation.

From the above, what does such a person qualify for?:
-- Sharing in the field service.
-- Parts in the Ministry School.
-- Nonteaching parts in the Service Meeting.

From the above, what does such a person NOT qualify for?:
-- A position of responsibility in the congregation.

The wording above was saying no more than that, although such a person would be allowed to do CERTAIN THINGS in the congregation, at the same time there were other things that the person DID NOT (not, never would) qualify for.

Now, let’s take another look at the wording of the sentence:

This does not mean, though, that he will qualify to serve in a position of responsibility in the congregation.

But this is the way it would’ve needed to be worded for it to have meant what YOU thought it did:

This does not mean, though, that he ever will qualify to serve in a position of responsibility in the congregation.

Too, it only stands to reason that the one that is to “be encouraged to make spiritual progress [per the above]” should do so with the hope that eventually he can regain the respect of the congregation and return to being useful in terms of being qualified once again to assume congregational responsibilities.

So, no, I don’t get the same impression as you do at all. And I would certainly think that before you post all this over onto your site along with the words “you are being lied to” that you would rethink the matter and consider what you are likely to do to your credibility as one who still professes to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with the WTS.

Yadirf

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I'm going to be a father!

by dedalus in

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i've been a sorry excuse of a poster lately, so i'm not really in tune with what's going on with the board, but i still know enough people here to make an announcement: foxy, my fiancee, is pregnant!.

so it happened a couple of years before we were planning it, before we could even get married, before i've finished my postgraduate degree -- but so what?

we're financially sturdy enough to pull it off, i'll be able to complete the degree and get a good job, and no amount of financial anxiety seems to offset the excitement i feel to be having a child.

Yadirf

Daddy Dedalus,

Hey, PaPa to be, I thought for sure that they taught their students all about contraceptives in College. Truly, I really thought that was all part of the Great And Wonderful Higher Education (GAW-HE). Is that a class that you slept through?

Seriously and sincerely, I say congratulations for your expectations. There's nothing more exciting and wonderful than the miracle of another little one coming into existence. May you and your wife be the best of parents, and give your offspring EVERYTHING that they need in life. Of course, from what I have come to know about your beliefs (or should I say lack of beliefs), you're faced with quite a challenge in my opinion. You should understand that I mean well by that. Who really knows for sure at this point and time what your thoughts will be by the time you've been a father for 20 years, and then a grandfather ... some people do make surprising adjustments in areas where they never dreamt was possible.

There has been a time or two that I've contemplated the idea of just WHEN a person should technically be viewed as "married", that is, to have taken a wife. I really don't think that a formal ceremony in itself (other than provide an occasion to rejoice, of course) accomplishes little more other than make it legal and binding according to man's laws, which is important for various reasons. If you love the woman and she loves her man (a lifelong commitment type of love), and therefore the relationship is not based purely on sexual attraction, and you both can afford the responsibilities (which you say you can) that sleeping together might very well conjure up ... I, personally, would pronounce you man and wife and would not think of you as having committed fornication.

Well as you and others can see, I'm not quite as polished as probably you would be in putting my thoughts across. But I suppose that not very much additional shine is required for a person to simply say,

CONGRATULATIONS AND A SUCCESSFUL PARENTHOOD!

Yadirf

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When JWs come here

by larc in

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some thoughts about jws who come here:.

i have been here for six months now.

in that time, i have noticed a certain pattern to the conduct of jws who come here and are true believers.

Yadirf

Jerky Jurs,

seventh day adventist do not fight in wars. i don't think quakers do either.

Neither one of those quack religions even figure into the picture, JJ. I'm still waiting for representatives from either group to show up at mine and my neighbors doors. The truth is, that their pleasantly comfortable with probably running and add in the paper sayin' "Were here, you know! If you want us come and get us." Now that's really taking Jesus' command to "go" make disciples to heart, isn't it?

by the way you are not a JW. if you don't go out and witness (inactive) then you aren't considered one by your ever so loving brothers.

I've been trying to let up some on callin' people "idiots", and you're simply not helpin' out at all. Now wasn't that cute ... my "ever loving brothers". You IDIOT! What sort of a background did you have that taught you such rude manners? Did your mother refuse to breast-feed you. Or was it that you never were privileged to have the little "mobile" (you know, those little things that go round and round above the baby's crib)?

BTW, what have you got against capitalizing words at the beginning of a sentence. Is that the way it's done where you live? Or, most likely, is it because you quit school when you were in the 1st grade? Judging by your demeanor, I figure the last proposal provides the answer.

Yadirf

PS> My "witnessing" days are not over yet, JJ. They're just on hold for the time being.

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Looking For 1998 Watchtower Bound Volume

by AlanF in

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i'm looking to buy or trade to get a 1998 watchtower bound volume for my collection.

if anyone has one to trade or sell, please email me at [email protected] .. thanks,.

alanf

Yadirf

Fartkill,

You can try to dampen my spirits all you want, Fartkel, but you will never EVER dampen my LOVE for the damsel named VeniceIT. WOW ... even her name sends me spiraling above the rooftops. I wonder if I could get her to send me one of her unwashed snotty handkerchiefs. What a trophy that would be, short of perhaps one day callin' her my very own of course.

Yadirfie

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When JWs come here

by larc in

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some thoughts about jws who come here:.

i have been here for six months now.

in that time, i have noticed a certain pattern to the conduct of jws who come here and are true believers.

Yadirf

Dave,

I appreciate your mild and respectful manner of conduct on this forum, and thanks for sharing a little about yourself. For right now I will only hit on a couple of points that you brought up.

You said,

Since you realize that [this forum is for ex-JWs] and continue to post here you must then consider yourself an exJW or a very confused back sliding JW. Which is it?

That's only two possible options that you are allowing me. I'm here to agitate. No, seriously, I'm here chiefly as an observer of what goes on in the minds of those who have forgotten the excitement they first felt when one of Jehovah's Witnesses first helped them to see what the true hope is for themselves and the rest of mankind. I find it terribly sad when I witness certain individuals preferring/willing to throw it all away on the basis of things the Society either does for strategic reasons or out of simple imperfection. And of course I do get disgusted at hearing and seeing the WTS being accused as if it was a criminal institution.

I would like to hear your reasons for not going out in
service. I know they may be personal ones and if so please excuse me for asking.

Once again, I appreciate your consideration with regards to my feelings. However, I have no hang-ups about talking about why I haven't been congregationally active since the mid-70s. The chief reason centers on the 1914 doctrine. I happen to know, as I'm sure you do, that this is a MAJOR flaw in the Society's doctrinal structure. Of course, given all that revolves around that particular doctrine I am unable to represent the Society when it comes to offering Bible study aids (literature) which in most cases still highlight that erroneous idea within their pages.

No, the fact that Jesus' has not been installed as King yet does not mean that the "faithful slave" isn't around, it just means that such "slave" hasn't been appointed over "all his [Jesus'] belongings".--Matthew 24:45-47.

When all is considered, for example that which can be learned from the book of Daniel, Matthew, and Revelation, etc., it becomes quite apparent that we live in a day and time when a class referred to as "the holy ones" are supposed to be evident on the world scene. According to Daniel, such ones would be around during the time of the 7th King (our day, and no this "King" isn't Britain and America by themselves) and would particularly become the focal point of attention after the 8th King arrives (the final horn of Daniel 7:24, 25). Of course, the Society has misjudged regarding the identity of the 8th King (even as it has the 7th) it not being the present United Nations ... nor has this "King" arrived as yet. This is simply another error that figures in with the 1914 doctrine. Once the 1914 doctrine is discarded, so will everything that rests upon it ... and all will fall into its proper place. It has been frequently said that if the Society has to kick out the 1914 doctrine then the Society is all washed up, such ones thinking that the "faithful slave" of Matthew 24 is dependent upon the legitimacy of that date. Nothing could be farther from the truth! But, since it is time for that certain class of "holy ones" to have made the scene, it becomes the challenge of each and every "Christian" to recognize "who" they are. One thing to keep in mind in making that investigation is the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses do not share in the wars of the nations. I know the same cannot be said for the Baptists, Methodists, etc. The Churches of Christ even go so far as to provide Chaplains for the armed services.

Why do I believe that the Society will become refined, you may ask? For right now, I will leave that for Daniel 11:35 to explain. I suppose that you still believe the Bible? I hope so at least.

Later, hopefully.

Yadirf

PS> Sorry that I wasn't able right now to reply to each and every point that you come back with, but I am simply not up to such an extensive dialogue.

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Looking For 1998 Watchtower Bound Volume

by AlanF in

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i'm looking to buy or trade to get a 1998 watchtower bound volume for my collection.

if anyone has one to trade or sell, please email me at [email protected] .. thanks,.

alanf

Yadirf

Alan Eglon,

You're "flattered" that I daily urinate onto your picture? The thought of that gives me flatulence. I've always thought you were strange. Maybe I'll just stop urinating altogether! I've just shredded all your pictures, Alan. Sorry!

Ehud

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Looking For 1998 Watchtower Bound Volume

by AlanF in

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i'm looking to buy or trade to get a 1998 watchtower bound volume for my collection.

if anyone has one to trade or sell, please email me at [email protected] .. thanks,.

alanf

Yadirf

MY DEAREST, LOVING VENICE:

Do you realize that although you could have, you didn't tell me to get lost (aka "go fly a kite"). That means that I've got a chance, doesn't it, my love? And I'm so glad to know that you have normal desires.

Yadirf,
completely elated class.

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WHY ALAN FRAUDBACKER IS DOOMED!

by You Know in

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for some reason i can't post on the original topic about the fds on why the watchtower is doomed thread.

so i just started a new post.

as regards af's long-winded post on that thread, it is obvious to me that you don't know what you are talking about, and that you are merely trying to obfuscate the issue with this enormously long post.

Yadirf

I guess I could let it slide, but I asked you a question too. What is a Rorschach Test? Do a computer search, I'm sure you can find out. I also asked you if gambling was against your religious beliefs.

You have a lot more questions than answers.

Answer to your 1st question: Yes, I know what that test is.
Answer to your 2nd question: No, I hit the Casinos from time to time. But I only play the nickel machines. Generally am not out over $25.00 to $50.00. That's getting out pretty cheap for entertainment purposes these days. You can spend almost that much going out to see a movie along with getting popcorn and soft drink.

Friday, this sure does beat door to door in the rain, doesn't it.

No it doesn't. I look forward to seeing the day when I can share in the door-to-door ministry once again, come rain OR shine.

Yadirf