Amazing
You're a specialist at twisting things around. Seems to come with being an apostate.
Posts by Yadirf
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35Not a bad little hangout!
by Yadirf ini was looking at a magazine while waiting for my son to come out from seeing his doctor a couple of weeks ago, and it had an article in it about dick cheney.
(i think it was a magazine named architecture.
) it showed pictures of the home cheney is favored with living in during his tenure as vice president of the united states.
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Not a bad little hangout!
by Yadirf ini was looking at a magazine while waiting for my son to come out from seeing his doctor a couple of weeks ago, and it had an article in it about dick cheney.
(i think it was a magazine named architecture.
) it showed pictures of the home cheney is favored with living in during his tenure as vice president of the united states.
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Yadirf
Mister Biggs
It kinda looks like Beth Sarim.
Even if there were a comparison the PURPOSES of the two houses do not compare. The one is carnal, the other spiritual.
-------------------------------------------A house called Beth Sarim.
Below is the actual deed of this house, which Rutherford had built (in San Diego, California). Click here ( http://www.freeminds.org/video/vlc356.html ) for a movie presentation of what the house looked like from all quarters. Of course no one should pay any attention to all the introductory apostate hype/tone you'll hear, and read about here below.
Insofar as my own suspicions, I tend to think that Rutherford strategically had this built as a place of refuge for himself and/or all officers of the Society if the need arose, while at the same time being true to his expectations that certain men of the Bible were near to being resurrected and could live there after they returned (even as referred to in the deed below). Rutherford, due to his fearless outspokenness in condemning Christendom and the Devil's political system, was a most unpopular person in the world's eye. All should try to imagine themselves having walked in his shoes, assuming the responsibilities of his post! Given the fact that, as he faithfully bore the burdens that come with being President of the WTS, he put his whole being into carrying on with what Russell had started (once having put his hand to the plow he NEVER once looked back; Luke 9:62), I can't find it in MY heart to fault the man for having had this beautiful home built. As a matter of fact I can't imagine ANYONE in his day being more worthy of having such a magnificent place to flee to for relaxation and relief, and perhaps die in, than this man. When it's considered how exorbitant that many of the Clergy of Christendom live, is it really too much for a leading TRUE servant of the Lord to have this place, called Beth Sarim, particularly when the revenue allowed for it? Personally, I think not! -- Yadirf.
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Beth Sarim - a copy of the deedsBelow is a copy of the deeds to Beth-Sarim. Despite their claim that Beth-Sarim was built EXCLUSIVELY for the use of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, etc etc, in the 3rd paragraph it can be clearly seen that Joseph Rutherford is mentioned as being the person whose benefit the property was built for!
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(Deed book 1741)
J. Baker, Deputy Recorder
(page 69)
Robert J. Martin, a single and unmarried person of 117 Adams Street, Brooklyn, New York, for and in consideration of the sum of Ten Dollars (10.00) does hereby grant, bargain and sell unto Joseph F. Rutherford of 124 Columbia Heights, Brooklyn, New York for and during his life on earth and thereafter to the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, a corporation created and organized under the laws of the State of Pennsylvania and maintaining it's chief operating offices at 124 Columbia Heights, Brooklyn, New York, and for the purposes hereinafter set forth.
page 70
All that real property situated in Kensington Heights, County of San Diego, State of California, bounded and described as follows, to wit: Lot One Hundred Ten (110) and Lot One Hundred Eleven (111) of Kensington Heights, Unit No. 2, in the County of San Diego, State of California, according to Map thereof To: 1912: filed in the offices of the County Recorder of said San Diego County May 24, 1926;
TO HAVE AND TO HOLD THE ABOVE GRANTED AND DESCRIBED PREMISES unto him, the said Joseph F. Rutherford for his exclusive possession, and benefit for and during his life on earth and at the end of said limited estate then to the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society is trust to be used for the purposes herein set forth, to wit: The granter at the request of the said Joseph F. Rutherford who is President of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society and General Manager, thereof makes this provision and condition as set forth in this deed.
Both the grantor and the grantee, the said Joseph F. Rutherford are fully persuaded from the Bible Testimony, which is the word of Jehovah God, extraneous evidences that God's kingdom is now in course of establishment and that it will result beneficially to the peoples of earth; that governing power and authority will be invisible to men but that Kingdom of God will have visible representatives on the earth who will have charge of the affairs of the nations under the supervision of the invisible ruler Christ; that among those who will thus be the faithful representatives and visible governors of the world will be David, who was once King over Israel; and Gideon, and Barak, and Samson, and Jepthae, and Joseph, formerly the ruler of Egypt, and Samuel the prophet and other faithful men who were named with approval in the Bible at Hebrews the eleventh chapter. The condition herein is that the said Watch Tower and Tract Society shall hold said title perpetually in trust for the use of any or all of the men named as representatives of God's Kingdom on earth and that such men shall have possession and use of said property herein above described as they may deem for the best interest for the work in which they are engaged.
This property has been acquired and the improvements built thereon at the instance and under the direction of the said Joseph R. Rutherford and dedicated to Jehovah God and to His King Christ who is the rightful ruler of the earth and for the express purpose of being used by (page 70 cont.) those who are servants of Jehovah God. For this reason the provision is made in this deed that the property shall be forever used for the purpose subject to any one who possesses that may have been placed thereupon. IT IS FURTHER PROVIDED that if the said JOSEPH F. RUTHERFORD while alive on the earth shall by lease, deed or contract provide that any other person or persons connected with the said Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society shall have the right to reside on said premises until the appearing of David or some of the other men mentioned in the Eleventh Chapter of Hebrews as above set forth every such person or persons so designated by the said Joseph F. Rutherford is such lease or other paper writing shall have the right and privilege of residing on said premises until the same be taken possession of by David or some of the other men herein named and this property and premises being dedicated to Jehovah and the use of His kingdom it shall be used as such forever. Any persons appearing to take possession of said premises shall first prove and identify themselves to the proper officers of said Society as the person or persons described in Hebrews Chapter eleven and in this deed.
IN WITNESS THEREOF, I the said Robert J. Martin and the said Joseph F. Rutherford have hereunto signed our names this 24th day of December A.D. 1929.
WITNESSES: Robert J. Martin
Donald Wialett
Joseph F. Rutherford
Bonnie Boyd
State of New York County of Kings On this 24th day of December A. D. 1929
(Notary seal)
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Not a bad little hangout!
by Yadirf ini was looking at a magazine while waiting for my son to come out from seeing his doctor a couple of weeks ago, and it had an article in it about dick cheney.
(i think it was a magazine named architecture.
) it showed pictures of the home cheney is favored with living in during his tenure as vice president of the united states.
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Yadirf
Reborn2002
(Yadirf snickering at that screen name.)
The true Kingdom of God is located in your heart, not an organization
Apparently you think that the "organization" of Jehovah's Witnesses claims to be the Kingdom of God. How is that?.
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Not a bad little hangout!
by Yadirf ini was looking at a magazine while waiting for my son to come out from seeing his doctor a couple of weeks ago, and it had an article in it about dick cheney.
(i think it was a magazine named architecture.
) it showed pictures of the home cheney is favored with living in during his tenure as vice president of the united states.
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Yadirf
Simon sez,
Y'mean they don't all live in the Whitehouse ?
The White House has ONLY 132 rooms and 20 bathrooms, Simon! Where would they ever put him in a house that small? -
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G'NIGHT FOLKS, THE PARTY IS OVER
by apostate man inwell, it has gotten to be stale around here so i am also leaving.
i have no reason to stay because i have fulfilled my mission, to get my wife to see the truth about the truth.
you all have helped me out, and i thank you.. i will leave a few questions that perhaps no person can answer..... how can god have always exsisted?
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Yadirf
How can God have always exsisted?
Rather than being so concerned about that, why not instead be concerned with getting eternal life for yourself? Afterall, aren't YOU the one that's dying?
Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
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Not a bad little hangout!
by Yadirf ini was looking at a magazine while waiting for my son to come out from seeing his doctor a couple of weeks ago, and it had an article in it about dick cheney.
(i think it was a magazine named architecture.
) it showed pictures of the home cheney is favored with living in during his tenure as vice president of the united states.
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Yadirf
I was looking at a magazine while waiting for my son to come out from seeing his doctor a couple of weeks ago, and it had an article in it about Dick Cheney. (I think it was a magazine named Architecture.) It showed pictures of the home Cheney is favored with living in during his tenure as Vice President of the United States. I found this particular photo of the mansion on the Internet.
As I considered the pictures in the magazine I thought of the scripture (Luke 22:25) where Jesus reminded his disciples: "The Kings of the nations lord it over them...."
The house has three-stories, with 9,150 square feet of floor space. It's got 12 rooms, and 6 bathrooms. It was in 1974 that Congress designated the house to be where the Vice President would live. Since then Vice Presidents Mondale, Bush, Quayle, and now Cheney have lived there.Not a bad little hangout, eh?
Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
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Another erroneous portrayal of the wild beast.
by Yadirf inabove is a picture whereby the scarlet beast of revelation 17 is portrayed, with the harlot aboard.
(i found it somewhere on the internet on friday.
) notice the horns ... the manner in which they are presented as being shared by all but one of the seven heads.
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Yadirf
I'll be looking forward to the email, You Know.
Yadirf,
Looking forward to sawing some logs for right now.Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
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Another erroneous portrayal of the wild beast.
by Yadirf inabove is a picture whereby the scarlet beast of revelation 17 is portrayed, with the harlot aboard.
(i found it somewhere on the internet on friday.
) notice the horns ... the manner in which they are presented as being shared by all but one of the seven heads.
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Yadirf
You Know
Before retiring, I will say one thing more for the sake of clarification:
With both -- the 7th head as well as the 10 horns -- occupying the same time frame (as verses 10 & 12 describe) it has to be that John saw all 10 horns atop the 7th head.
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Another erroneous portrayal of the wild beast.
by Yadirf inabove is a picture whereby the scarlet beast of revelation 17 is portrayed, with the harlot aboard.
(i found it somewhere on the internet on friday.
) notice the horns ... the manner in which they are presented as being shared by all but one of the seven heads.
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Yadirf
Greetings You Know
I'm assuming that you disagree with my analysis up above, where I explained:Of course both representations are wrong. All ten horns belong to only one of the seven heads, namely the seventh.
I do you know that?I think that when a person considers verses 10 and 12 together it becomes quite clear that the 10 horns are completely irrelevant to the first 6 heads. It really amazes me that people can't grasp this point.
Perhaps you won't mind explaining what it is that you can't accept about that?Notice that verse 10 speaks of the 7th head/king as not having arrived yet, as of John's day (the first century).
Then, even as you've already called attention to, verse 12 speaks of ALL 10 horns as having not yet received a kingdom, as of John's day also.
With both texts in view it's seems so very obvious that the 10 horns fit into the same time frame as does the 7th head.
I've got to hit the sack, because I've been indisciplined again and so been up all night. I'll be interested in reading your comments when I wake up later.
Your friend,
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Another erroneous portrayal of the wild beast.
by Yadirf inabove is a picture whereby the scarlet beast of revelation 17 is portrayed, with the harlot aboard.
(i found it somewhere on the internet on friday.
) notice the horns ... the manner in which they are presented as being shared by all but one of the seven heads.
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Yadirf
SS
The Scriptures also indicate that those who qualify to be of the anointed are "holy". That's something that surely few people have ever attained during this life. Certainly, I'm not one who has done so yet and I'm sure that I'll need the benefits of Christ's reign to qualify me for the everlasting life that those ones have ALREADY qualified for.
