KistByQpid
I find it sad that the kindness of strangers is being used as platform for mud slinging.What's good for the goose is good for the gander, yes?
Now, sit back down and SHUT UP!
this is the web site of a certain bethel baptist church: http://www.bethelmac.org/.
notice the two waving american flags at the bottom of their home page.. .
certainly a nationalistic bunch, aren't they!.
KistByQpid
I find it sad that the kindness of strangers is being used as platform for mud slinging.What's good for the goose is good for the gander, yes?
Now, sit back down and SHUT UP!
this is the web site of a certain bethel baptist church: http://www.bethelmac.org/.
notice the two waving american flags at the bottom of their home page.. .
certainly a nationalistic bunch, aren't they!.
refiners fire
Where does the Bible say America is the false prophet??In my comments above, if you look closely, you'll find that I said nothing about "the false prophet".
America -- in addition to every other nation on earth today -- is represented by the figurative 10 horns that rest atop the 7th head of the wild beast -- which I DID mention BTW.
Yadirf
some contact infor for anyone who wants it:.
here is the address of the chruch:.
325 nw.
Of course, these people who showed so much compassion are going to be all brutally murdered while the very people who drove Bryant away from them by their own hypocrisy and who don't even have the common decency to offer him any sort of memorial service are going to march right into that New Paradise with shit-eating grins on their faces.Yeah, right.
Farkel
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=23817&site=3
Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
this is the web site of a certain bethel baptist church: http://www.bethelmac.org/.
notice the two waving american flags at the bottom of their home page.. .
certainly a nationalistic bunch, aren't they!.
This is the web site of a certain Bethel Baptist Church: http://www.bethelmac.org/
Notice the two waving American flags
Certainly a nationalistic bunch, aren't they!
There's probably no question but what the Baptist's think that JWs are absolutely CRAZY, believing as we do that the Bible says the wild beast received its power and its throne and great authority from the Dragon (Satan). -- Revelation 13:2.
And ... of course ... there's also no question but what the BBC (Bethel Baptist Church; a denomination of Christendom) sprang from the very seed that Satan himself planted. (Matthew 13:24-30) That they choose to be flag-wavers makes this a definite fact. Thus, the BBC is an imitation form of the real Christianity that Jesus himself sowed.
Funny, isn't it? ... those who consider JWs to be crazy, are themselves crazy INSTEAD.
Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
nemesis .
in a thread over in the bible research section you said to you know:.
even the watch tower society now realises this, thats why they changed their teaching on the sheep and goats from pre-armageddon, to post-armageddon.. first i want to say that i agree with you regarding when jesus parable of the sheep & goats finds fulfillment.. also, i agree with you that those who died in the flood will be resurrected as will those that die at armageddon.. what i want to know though, is where did you get the idea that the wts has changed its position from pre-armageddon, to post-armageddon regarding the sheep/goat parable?
Nemesissy
I ... have no more to say on this post."No more to say"? Actually before you can have no more to say, you've got to have said something in the first place. And you've certainly said NOTHING whatsoever so far ... just spouted off a string of meaningless, unkind, devilish words.
How you can come here and have a beef about minor parts of a discussing I had with someone else [i.e. not you] and you then go forth and are teaching stuff like the resurrected in heaven will come back to earth, and there are four heavens, and all the other non-Biblical and non-Watch Tower doctrines is hilarious!The fact that a few of mine as well as a comparatively few other faithful one's concepts are diverse to that which the WTS understands presently is in COMPLETE agreement with that which the Bible itself spoke of, at Daniel 11:35. That text shows that just prior to the time of the end's beginning there would in fact be "some" individuals associated with the true religion (the WTS) who would have insight enough to know where certain errors lay, that would "stumble" because of it, and as a result of having done so a glorious "refinement" (correction of viewpoint) would be the result.
That there are four heavens (as seen from the perspective of our earth) is a Biblically proven fact.
As to my expressed opinions being "non-Biblical" that's simply not true, and you have yet to prove your claim that they're not. As to mine and a few other's opinions being "non-Watch Tower", I've just explained the justification for this phenomena which was foretold to take place during the latter days of the reign of the 7th king.
You should be scared, Nemesissy, you just haven't the sense to be. I'm sure you'll get to be though, just hang tight you'll see.
Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
this is where i live most of the time.
kinda messy but i can't clean it up because a lot of it is my wife's and if i move it,it's not worth the flack.
maybe i should admit it's really mostly my mess.. .
Ken P.
Is that a choo choo train that I see on the shelf above your scanner?
If so, do you still play with it?
Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
what an ass!
this dude couldn't even stay on the board for two days without getting booted out!!
!hats off to simon for his sensibility and quick response time!
Danielson
Truth Defender
Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
c'mon, you check in once and now you won't respond?
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=23335&site=3.
by the way, if new technology developed that could immediately reveal one's true identity, would you start to sweat if the gb and elders read all your rogue, non conforming and unique views?
By the way, if new technology developed that could immediately reveal one's true identity, would you start to sweat if the GB and elders read all your rogue, non conforming and unique views? You realize you would be disassociated if not disfellowshipped don't you? By defaut of WT doctrine you cannot deny that!
stocwach, I don't think that You Know will mind my stepping in here to set you straight.
I can assure you that what You Know says on this forum, plus a LOT that he won't say here, is definitely no secret to those at Brooklyn. I happen to know that for a fact. So he has no reason to "sweat", and no reason to be fearful of being disassociated or disfellowshipped.
I've got a secret for you...your "apostate" just like the rest of us because of your views. Your just too stubborn or ignorant to admit it--but I'm not sure which one it is.Once again you're mistaken. If You Know were truly an apostate like you and the others here then you and they would be calling him your friend. And for your information, although You Know does attend the meetings at the Kingdom Hall he doesn't share his "rogue, non conforming and unique views" with the friends there (because he respects the importance of not placing the peace of the Congregation at risk). Instead, he communicates those views to the proper ones in Brooklyn. They know his name and the Congregation he attends.
Yadirf,
who really knows.
Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
nemesis .
in a thread over in the bible research section you said to you know:.
even the watch tower society now realises this, thats why they changed their teaching on the sheep and goats from pre-armageddon, to post-armageddon.. first i want to say that i agree with you regarding when jesus parable of the sheep & goats finds fulfillment.. also, i agree with you that those who died in the flood will be resurrected as will those that die at armageddon.. what i want to know though, is where did you get the idea that the wts has changed its position from pre-armageddon, to post-armageddon regarding the sheep/goat parable?
Farkel
and the dead person stands up and says to God, "Why did you klll me and then resurrect me?" God says (in his infinite Wisdom), "Because Yadirf said I would do that, that's why."You could just as well have directed your remarks at Nemesis. Yes, Nemesis thinks the same as I do regarding the point you focused in on. Note these two comments of his here:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=23344&site=3Here's some more of Nemesis' gems from that thread, which is the whole point of my posting this particular thread:You Know, virtually no one today is in that category, so even if 6 billion do die at Armageddon as punishment, the vast majority will come back for a proper chance after Armageddon
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There is nothing in the Bible to say those who die in the tribulation, or in the past flood, or from some other past act of God, that they will not come back....
You also forget that those described in Judgment day, are those alive after Armageddon [including the resurrected], not before—have you forgotten that the Watch Tower has realised it’s false teaching and changed it to the correct post Armageddon period?Note that in the red Nemesis actually has the gall to ask You Know if HE has "forgotten" the WTS's change in viewpoint on this matter -- when in fact there hasn't even been a change in viewpoint -- except of course on the word of a certain "female witness friend" who claims such a thing has happened. I guess that Nemesis was thinking that this girl was supposed to call You Know on the phone and inform him of this ‘new change’ and failed to do so. How else was You Know supposed to know of such a thing?Even the Watch Tower society now realises this, that’s why they changed their teaching on the ‘sheep and goats’ from pre-Armageddon, to post-Armageddon.
It comes to my mind that [You Know] is most definitely not a JW, or not one attending the meetings, as [b]he isn’t even up to date with their latest changes [with reference to Matthew 25:31-46].
Now take a look at the part in blue. Note the degree of CERTAINTY with which Nemesis speaks -- about how the WTS has made this change -- that it in fact did NOT make -- except, of course, on the word of the "female witness friend" whom had supposedly “heard” of the change.
And then notice the green part, in which You Know was apparently supposed to have gotten a phone call from Nemesis' "female witness friend", but didn't. Yesireeeeeee, according to Nemesis, You Know is definitely not up to date with the WTS's latest changes regarding Matthew 25:31-46 -- all because Nemesis "female witness friend" failed to inform You Know.
Yes, somehow EVERYBODY is supposed to have known that Nemesis' "female witness friend" had heard it said at Pioneer school that the WTS has made this change -- which in fact has NOT been made. But it's of course all You Know's fault that he didn't know about the change that hadn't been made.
Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
the contradiction below is just one among a great many which show that the bible cannot be trusted to give an accurate account of jesus life.. mark believes that jesus cursed the fig tree before he drove the merchants from the temple:.
the next day as they were leaving bethany, jesus..said to the tree, "may no one ever eat fruit from you again.
" (mark 11:12-14).
GWEEDO
Actually, the worst bit of behaviour I think Jesus exhibited was when some guy came up to him and said that he would follow him, but first he has to go and bury his father. Jesus replies to this by saying: "let the dead bury the dead". I never really could get my head around this little incident. It's extremely cold. Heres a guy who's grieving for his father and all the prince of compassion (jesus) can say is: let the dead bury the dead. Just ooozzes love!The reason for your "head" problem is that you haven't the faintest idea of what Jesus was really talking about. (Hint: It's not at all what you tend to think, little Shallow-mind!)
Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.