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Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
Posts by Yadirf
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56"Such an evil star"
by Yadirf indecember 29, 1999. writing department.
25 columbia heights.
brooklyn, ny 11201-2483. .
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Christendom will NEVER hit the mark!
by Yadirf inhere's a representation of how many times that christendom has hit the bullseye with regards to knowing what the bible teaches.
she teaches that man has an immortal soul; that heaven is the only destiny of the "saved" (no paradise earth then); that jesus and his father are co-eternal/equal (that jesus had no beginning); they say that what jacob and his mother did was bad; political envolvement (part of the world); loves pagan holidays; thinks that god produced the star of bethlehem;thinks that the commission to preach only applies to the clergy and not to the laity; etc., etc., etc.. .
christendom considers herself to be christ's representatives.
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Here's a representation of how many times that Christendom has hit the bullseye with regards to knowing what the Bible teaches. She teaches that man has an immortal soul; that heaven is the only destiny of the "saved" (no paradise earth then); that Jesus and his father are co-eternal/equal (that Jesus had no beginning); they say that what Jacob and his mother did was bad; political envolvement (part of the world); loves pagan holidays; thinks that God produced the Star of Bethlehem;thinks that the commission to preach only applies to the clergy and not to the laity; etc., etc., etc.
Christendom considers herself to be Christ's representatives. WHAT A FARCE!!!
Thanks for the image Fred (COMF).Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
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Rome was especially ruthless
by Yadirf ini found this interesting picture on a site someone here referenced today.
can you fathom being treated this way (persecuted) as apparently some christians were under the government of the roman empire?
(also, look at the ones impaled round about the arena there.
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Tyydyy
A)Would you please tell us why it was ok for god to kill all those children living at the time of the flood. B)Why was it ok for all women and children to die just because they happened to live in the "promised land". C)If god was really concerned about how horrible their worship was then why didn't he exterminate all the other religions of the earth?
Oh my goodness, I can't believe that you don't have the understanding to answer those 3 easy questions. Really, it's very very simple ... as simple as A_B_C. If you seriously think about it, it will surely dawn on you. It's really a kindergarten challenge, trust me. Try, and see if you don’t find that to be true. Think!Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
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Rome was especially ruthless
by Yadirf ini found this interesting picture on a site someone here referenced today.
can you fathom being treated this way (persecuted) as apparently some christians were under the government of the roman empire?
(also, look at the ones impaled round about the arena there.
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What can I say, Farkel, you have your mind made up. So you think God is a "fuckhead" ... what else is new?
I'll ask you the same question that I did Skeptic:
Why is it that you automatically condemn God for bringing about the destructive forces of Armageddon when you don’t even clearly understand the issue? And if you think you do understand the issue, I’ll be quite for a moment and allow you to explain it to me. What is the issue, if you can tell me?
Yadirf
PS> I may have reached my limit of posts for today with this one.Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
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Rome was especially ruthless
by Yadirf ini found this interesting picture on a site someone here referenced today.
can you fathom being treated this way (persecuted) as apparently some christians were under the government of the roman empire?
(also, look at the ones impaled round about the arena there.
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VeniceIT
Hey Yaddy where ya been???
I’ve “been” disfellowshipped from JW.com, but reinstated. LOL! Seems like I stayed in attack mode for too long at a time, so they figured I needed a breather. LOL again!!!
I replied to one of your comments in another thread about 3 days ago, but I guess you didn’t know about it as I was rather slow getting around as usual. It was in the thread “Who fulfills Matt: 24:14” located at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=15848&site=3
It might be a new thought to you, and it might not. Anyway, there it is if you want to go there.
Yadirf,
whose little heart is still in pieces.Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
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Rome was especially ruthless
by Yadirf ini found this interesting picture on a site someone here referenced today.
can you fathom being treated this way (persecuted) as apparently some christians were under the government of the roman empire?
(also, look at the ones impaled round about the arena there.
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Richard
Hi, Yadirf, it is good to see you back.
Thanks for the amicable greeting, and I hope that you’re getting along fine.First of all, I’m really astonished when I hear someone say, as you just did: “If God existed …”
I really have a difficult time relating to anyone being an agnostic, and especially an atheist ... particularly for those having gotten in more than a few decades of living among the glories of God’s creation. It’s really something that’s totally beyond me, I’ll have to admit.Many share your opinion, but I don't think many have considered that Hitler was evil for killing 6-10 million people. God plans on killing 6 billion people. That makes God far more heinous than Hitler.
You’re not really making a statement like that while having a clear understanding of the basis for God’s bringing about Armageddon, I’m fairly sure of that. But that aside for a moment, do you mean to say that there is NEVER any justification for a human life being ended by force? Are you against the death penalty being administered to … say for example a man that has proven himself to be incorrigible with regards to abusing young children? What sort of crime would a person have to commit before you would sanction the ending of that persons life? Is anything at all a serious enough offence to warrant the death penalty in your estimation? How about bin Laden, if he is actually guilty of masterminding the attacks upon the WTC in New York do you think that the government should end his life? Or would that be too harsh a penalty to have to pay in your opinion?If God existed and he was the kind of God that would destroy the majority of mankind, he would not be worthy of my worship. I would rather die than serve such a god. It would not be a disgrace for him to kill me, as I would not serve him out of my moral principles.
What I’m driving at is, why is it that you automatically condemn God for bringing about the destructive forces of Armageddon when you don’t even clearly understand the issue? And if you think you do understand the issue, I’ll be quite for a moment and allow you to explain it to me. What is the issue, if you can tell me?
Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
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"Such an evil star"
by Yadirf indecember 29, 1999. writing department.
25 columbia heights.
brooklyn, ny 11201-2483. .
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Wannahelp,
Would you please answer three questions for me:
I will try my darndest … just for you.
1.) Does the bible state literally that the star was sent by satan?
In so many words, yes it does. But not directly. There are sufficient clues to draw such a conclusion from. I’ll give you an example, based on another point in the Bible.
Regarding Revelation 17, as you no doubt know, many people have misunderstood that the name on the harlot’s forehead is that of herself. However, that’s not the case at all. Instead, it’s the name of the scarlet-colored wild beast. How can that be determined to be the case for sure? By letting the Bible be consistent with itself, that’s how. By reasoning on the Scriptures we can see that just as the names on the foreheads of the 144,000 (Revelation 14:1) is not their own personal names, likewise, to be consistent then the name on the harlot’s forehead can’t be her own personal name either. And to be honest with you, right now I’m slightly disappointed in the fact that the WTS has yet to figure that out. But I know they eventually will, so I’m not to terribly disturbed. I don’t mean to try to tell you how to build a watch when all you ask for was the time so to speak. But it takes words to communicate, which I believe you can appreciate.
2.) Are you or the WTBTS claiming that you received this information of the 'satanic star' via divine revelation?
No ma’am (or is it sir?), that’s not the case at all … at least not in the same manner that the writers of the Bible were inspired. However, it does aid one enormously if one’s thoughts are kept in strict harmony with the spirit of the Bible.3.) Being that the 'satanic star' is a mere human opinion held by either you or the WTBTS or both, can you be 100% sure that you are correct? If so, how..
Yes! … I’m totally sure that is correct deduction to have made. And you can be too, if you allow the Bible to speak for itself. All one has to really do is keep it foremost in mind that you want nothing less than to arrive at the truth of the matter. That means that you must dedicate enough of your time and energy, along with a genuine desire to find the treasure (and it is a gem of knowledge BTW), and you will arrive at the right conclusion as based upon the clues available from the account. If I can do it, you can do it. I can’t do that part for you, because your appreciation for the Bible and its truths must be acquired mostly as a result of your own heart’s search. That’s the way much of the Bible has been put together, whether we like it or not. Personally I like it that way, and that’s the reason, for example, that the Revelation account is presented in sign language … making use of symbols and the like. It’s a fact that neither God nor Jesus gives what is holy to dogs … meaning people who for the moment aren’t able to appreciative a matter. If you’re really sincere, meaning that you’re not just simply wanting to put me to the test, as time permits I’ll do my best to walk you through the matter maybe sometime in the not-too-distant future. But NOT if you don’t already accept the Bible as the expression of God’s thoughts. I just haven’t the time nor the energy right now to nurse anyone along who hasn’t gotten at least that far along in their spiritual lives. The fact is, I think that if you thoroughly consider the link that I provided earlier, that alone, although the continuity of it is riddled with bickering and needless interruptions, it should provide sufficient information for one to see why the "star" had to have been of Satanic origin.If not, then how do you claim rightousness and show humility by passing judgement on all the christian religions that view the star as a good thing?
You’ve asked some very pointed questions, and reasonable ones at that. Insofar as passing “judgment” on Christian Institutions which give glory to what amounts to nothing less than a Satanic tool, I find nothing unjust about that … because such agencies have the obligation to KNOW the truth. As it is, today the truth is available regarding this issue, but the Churches of Christendom haven’t the ears to hear. The leaders of those Institutions bear a far heavier responsibility than do those church members who merely trust their judgment as those who are supposed to know what they are talking about when it comes to doctrinal matters such as this. I’m not one to show favoritism either, as I have some personal issues with the WTBTS. For example, I reject the idea that 1914 saw the beginning of Christ’s “presence”, and all that swings around the year 1914 … as still being taught by the WTBTS. For that reason I no longer am able to conscientiously participate in the offering of the Society’s literature to the public. But, I know that things will change so that the WTS is in full harmony with the Scriptures with regards to everything. How do I know that? It’s a rather long story, that I doubt that you’re in a position to appreciate at this time.Thanks in advance for your answers
Thank you for being so congenial. And I hope that I have perhaps helped a little, or at least not ruffled the feathers too much.Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
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Rome was especially ruthless
by Yadirf ini found this interesting picture on a site someone here referenced today.
can you fathom being treated this way (persecuted) as apparently some christians were under the government of the roman empire?
(also, look at the ones impaled round about the arena there.
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Hi y'all
I found this interesting picture on a site someone here referenced today. Can you fathom being treated this way (persecuted) as apparently some Christians were under the government of the Roman empire? (Also, look at the ones impaled round about the arena there.) And just to think, all that those people had really done so as to deserve such harsh treatment was that they simply placed their confidence in the teachings of the Messiah, Jesus Christ. They hadn't murdered anyone, or committed any other heinous crime. They merely lived by the principles which Jesus and his apostles taught ... such as "you must love your neighbor as yourself", and that they should "be no part of the world" in imitation of Jesus himself.
Looks to actually be ANOTHER example of the callousness that will be exhibited towards true Christians after the entire world comes under the jurisdiction of the upcoming 8th King (a World Government). There are so very many examples to look to for enlightenment in this regard. This one, plus the account in the book of Esther (that which Haman had planned for Mordecai and the rest of the Jews). Then reflect on how the Israelites were treated under the hand of Egypt's Pharaoh. Not much different with Nebuchadnezzer having the three Hebrews thrown into the fiery furnace. And think about how Joseph's very own kin, his brothers, sold him into slavery ... simply out of pure jealously. Remember how they put Jesus to death (literally driving spikes through his hands and feet); and how John the Baptist was decapitated. My oh my, what patience God has exhibited. No wonder that when the day arrives when there is no reason for any further delay the Scriptures say that on "the great day of Jehovah ... he will cause distress to mankind, and they will certainly walk like blind men; because it is against Jehovah that they have sinned. And their blood will actually be poured out like dust, and their bowels like the dung. Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to deliver them in the day of Jehovah's fury; but by the fire of his zeal the whole earth will be devoured, because he will make an extermination, indeed a terrible one, of all the inhabitants of the earth." (Zephaniah 1:14-18; page 1154 of the NWT) Talk about standing in the way of an oncoming freight train! Man oh man, let me out of the way. If I had a choice of either dying at the hand of men or dying at the hand of God, I'd choose the former. At least it will have been an unjustifiable death. What a disgrace it will be though to have been put to death by the judgement of God himself.Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
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"Such an evil star"
by Yadirf indecember 29, 1999. writing department.
25 columbia heights.
brooklyn, ny 11201-2483. .
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Yadirf
Now, now Skally. Let's watch the blood pressure and all. You might ought to reserve your strength for when you see your mislead war against the WTS come back on you. Of course, if the WTS isn't really the apple of God's eye then all the *Haman's* of JW.com and H20 have nothing to be worried about now do they. Try to rest, won't you ... you're apt to need it. You know that that really hurt my feelings for you to call me a "dumbass", don't cha? You remind me so very much of Mommie Dark. Are you two siblings by any chance? Sort of a female version os mutt and jeff perhaps? LOL!
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Well hello Abommie Mommie (AM), long-time-hear-no-profanity from you. Have you come up with any new, especially filthy words lately? You know what, AM, I almost got hooked on your lingo one time ... and then I got disfellowshipped from JW.com. I kinda got over you in the meantime, so you're gonna have to really shower me with a good dose of the kind of language that only Abommie Mommie can spew out. Seriously though, I am flattered that you would click on a thread that your least-favorite JW started. Shows that it's not easy for you to avoid me, right? LOL! Of course, don't either one of you think that I don't see some good inside your hearts. It's just such a pity though that you will have to be forced to see that you've left the right track. It's never easy for me to stand by and watch anyone make things difficult for themselves.
Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
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"Such an evil star"
by Yadirf indecember 29, 1999. writing department.
25 columbia heights.
brooklyn, ny 11201-2483. .
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Skally
You aren't stupid sir, stop ACTING like you are.
Why are you inquiring about "the exact scripture" when you have absolutely no respect for the Bible in the first place? Terribly ambivalent on your part! So, I say to you: You are quite unreasonable ma'am, because you keep ACTING like you are.Qoute the exact scripture or shut up already about this topic.
Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.