the first seder of passover will be celebrated at sundown on wednesday, 27 march, 2002. the society will not celebrate the memorial until sundown, 28 march, 2002. once again they are a whole day off.
yerusalyim.
"vanity!
Now hear this! The Poop has turned up missing. Please, everyone, do your part to find the Poop. Search under every twig of leaf until he is returned to his throne. Don't forget to look under his ... hat.
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
a terrible, unhappy picture?.
yes it is, but nevertheless biblical.
it depicts.
Mindfield
Are you saying that you've had input in this thread, Mindfield? I never noticed it if you did. Oh ... that's right! ... You're the dirty rat that posted that oversized picture that played havoc with the horizontal dimensions of everything from here to China.
Thanks alot!
Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
a terrible, unhappy picture?.
yes it is, but nevertheless biblical.
it depicts.
Unclebruce
Too bad about that kitty. Actually, I was in hopes that Fred some how wouldn't click onto this thread because I had no way of taking the little feller out of the destruction. Looks like, even though animals won't be the focus of Armageddon, there will be a few ... what do you call it? ... er ... collateral casualties.
Howz all going with the Cabin & gold mine. Is some of it going to be MINE when it's found? How would you like for me to come to Oz and help out with the diggin'? I'll bring my own shovel, bucket, dog, and booze.
Friday
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
a terrible, unhappy picture?.
yes it is, but nevertheless biblical.
it depicts.
Wannahelp
Look you dumb cluck, it's quite apparent that if you don't get everything your way, because the other person won't give into to your tantrums, then that person definitely just didn't have the answers. You are as absurd as they come. You had a mission of proving me wrong from the beginning, and that's ALL. You did not turn a hearing ear towards anything I said. Rather than converse, you merely wanted to fight … saying that I attempted to sidestep a question by way of presening you with a question. THAT I never did. Go back and re-read it if you doubt that. I approached your questions as if they were coming from a sincere inquirer, not someone that had an AGENDA. Your screen-name certainly fits, really a dead give a way. In other words, you already had your mind made up on everything from the beginning, rather than simply approaching it with an open mind. If it WAS there for the learning, how do you suppose that YOU would ever be able to learn anything new if you're already convinced that you know it all from the start and you're unwilling to consider another point of view. That's something that you would charge JWs with, but I see it clearly in you.
P.S. Just for the record you also avoided the "ABSOLUTE TRUTH" questions, once again proving to me that you don't have answers to that line of reasoning, either.. That's two cracks in your 'wall'.. But, alas, I am quite sure you can patch them up and go on believing you live emersed in "TRUTH"... Good luck my friend.You’re a pompous one, aren’t you. I didn’t avoid anything. You put an end to our exchanges due to a high and mighty attitude you've displayed here in this thread -- in addition to certain uncalled-for, unkind remarks that you made in two other threads. Yes, you might have yourself brainwashed into thinking that we JWs “don’t have answers to that line of reasoning”, as well as a wheel barrow full of your friends here at JW.com … but the fact remains that you will never hear MY other answer because of the unchristian way that you’ve conducted yourself here today -- and without regrets at that. And you’ve demonstrated very well how unfair a person that you really are, in that you caused the closure of this discussion by the attitude you displayed, and then attempt to say that because I no longer plan to cater to your rudeness that it’s I that 'just don’t have the answers'. You silly fool, who do you think, that has any thinking ability to begin with, can’t see through a shenanigan such as you're trying to pull here? Don't forget, your friends who post here at JW.com aren't the ONLY ones that are observing your actions. And if you want to know the truth about it, it's not mainly for the benefit of those who post here that I posted this thread to begin with. I owe Simon a word of thanks for allowing me, by the use of his board, the avenue to reach multitudes whom I hope can "hear" with unbiased ears.
For the benefit of some lurker that may be looking in on this, I will supply the answer to one of the two questions that you posed, but not for YOU, Wannahelp. So, you may as well not even respond because I won’t answer you.
1)Well, didn't god state that he would never cause a flood again? So, are you now suggesting that god said he wouldn't kill people by the way of a flood, but that he will use some other method for the next round of destruction?That’s perfectly correct. Simple answer for it, even as I earlier said it was. All one has to do is review the account of the Flood in the book of Genesis. Doing that, one will find that Jehovah stated that he would never again bring ALL flesh to ruin. (Genesis 9:11-16) Of course the Flood DID bring all flesh to ruin, ANIMALS and all, except those comparatively few that were aboard the Ark. Yes, at that time Jehovah brought even the lives of the animal kingdom to ruin. But not so though in the case of Armageddon. At Armageddon only people who have accepted the “mark” will be the focus of God’s wrath. Obviously, the animals do not have that capability. So your question, “didn't god state that he would never cause a flood again?,” is somewhat distracting from the real issue. In effect you were arguing that if that were true then it would be inconsistent for JWs to claim that God plans to do a similar thing at Armageddon. But the point of God’s promise in Genesis was that he never again would ‘cut off all flesh’, such as happened in the Flood. So God isn’t inconsistent with his words there in Genesis by bringing about Armageddon.
So, that’s it, between me and you Mr. Wannahelp. Unless you can see fit to change your attitude there won’t be anymore sessions between you and I.
Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
december 29, 1999. writing department.
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Wannahelp,as for my "answers" see here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=16057&site=3
Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
a terrible, unhappy picture?.
yes it is, but nevertheless biblical.
it depicts.
Wannahelp
So, make your point without questioning others.. The onus is on you to prove your point, not deflect honest questions to your point by redirecting the questioning to me...My, now aren’t you the little dictator of sorts! Now you’re gonna tell me what I can and can’t say. So I have to stay inside the narrow guidelines that YOU specify, huh? If you have such a dislike for the way I frame my comments, then you’re welcome to exit this thread … afterall it’s one that I authored and no one twisted your arm to enter here did they. I believe your real colors are beginning to shine through quite clearly now. So much for that “Peace to you” crap that you spouted in the other thread, eh?
1)Well, didn't god state that he would never cause a flood again? So, are you now suggesting that god said he wouldn't kill people by the way of a flood, but that he will use some other method for the next round of destruction?I’ll bet you’d really like to learn of my answers for both of those, wouldn’t you? Simple questions, simple answers! (I continue to be amazed as to the inability of peoples who are educated by Christendom’s churches in being able to overcome the simplest of hurdles when it comes to seemingly contradictory things such as you bring up here.) Well, you would’ve gotten it had you deserved it. But THIS, plus at least two other comments of yours (spoken to others in reference to our exchanges, in separate threads) tells me that I’ve been trying to correspond with someone who isn’t worthy of a Christian’s time. Sorry, Wannahelp (ha!, whatta name) that you turned out to be that way, I was looking forward to going into some depth regarding the subject we were considering in the other thread. Now, though, I see that I would be throwing what is holy to a “dog” (a person incapable of appreciating sacred things). No thanks. Conversation ended!2)How can all men be destined to die once and then be judged and at the same time have an opportunity to NEVER taste death? Your statement is not in harmony with Hebrews 9:27.
Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
here's a representation of how many times that christendom has hit the bullseye with regards to knowing what the bible teaches.
she teaches that man has an immortal soul; that heaven is the only destiny of the "saved" (no paradise earth then); that jesus and his father are co-eternal/equal (that jesus had no beginning); they say that what jacob and his mother did was bad; political envolvement (part of the world); loves pagan holidays; thinks that god produced the star of bethlehem;thinks that the commission to preach only applies to the clergy and not to the laity; etc., etc., etc.. .
christendom considers herself to be christ's representatives.
Funkyderek
they say that what Jacob and his mother did was badCan you explain what you mean by this please, Yadirf?
See Genesis 27:6-10.
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
a terrible, unhappy picture?.
yes it is, but nevertheless biblical.
it depicts.
VeniceIT
Would you believe me if I told you
that my real name is "Mark"?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wannahelp
I find it interesting that theTurning that back on you, I say this: I find
JW's don't believe in hell, because god
couldn't be that cruel, yet they believe
in the big bloodbath of Armageddon..
Can you explain this scripture to me please..What's there really to explain? Perhaps you might want
I'm confused by it when taking your above statements
in contrast to it..Hebrews 9:27 (NIV Version)
Just as man is destined to die once, and after that
to face judgment
Dubla
interesting that you continue to post newJump back into your britches, will you! I've said
proclamations/warnings, all the while ignoring
the many questions posed to you in response to
your past spoutings. perhaps your style would be
better fitted to life of street shouting. im sure
youve seen these people, standing on street corners,
shouting scriptures, screaming gloom and doom to all
the passers by.........youd actually probably reach
more of the robots youre looking for with this tactic
as well.
Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
a terrible, unhappy picture?.
yes it is, but nevertheless biblical.
it depicts.
A terrible, unhappy picture?
Yes it is, but nevertheless biblical. It depicts
what will happen to those who give their allegiance
to the "scarlet-colored" World Government that is
yet to make the scene ... thereby worshiping an
idol, a false god. These ones will have made a
very unwise CHOICE by allowing themselves to be
symbolically marked either "in their right hand
or upon their forehead". (Re 13:16-17) The irony
of it, is that if they instead were to make the
proper choice THEN they would be privileged to be
among those of that day who won't EVER have to
taste death at all ... certainly a unique
opportunity considering that everyone since Adam
(except for Elijah etc.) has had to go through
that unpleasant experience. What a terrible
mistake to make at that time! You see, it's not
a choice that God himself makes for them ...
their fate is dictated by a choice that they
themselves each make in that day of testing.
This is the "test" which Revelation 3:10 speaks about:
"Because you kept the word about my endurance,
I will also keep you from the hour of test, which
is to come upon the whole inhabited earth, to put
a test upon those dwelling on the earth."
(Actually, I like the NIV better here.)*
Now, more clearly than ever before it can be
understood exactly why the nations "thought" (idea)
of "giving their kingdom to the wild beast" is
agreeable with God -- in other words his thought too.
(See Re 17:13, 17) Yes, the "ten kings" agreeing
that a World Government is needed all adds up to
providing the basis for determining specifically
who can be trusted so as to be preserved over into
the new system. So we see how it is that the
"thought" which the "ten kings" have in common
(hence the "one thought") serves a most
useful purpose for God in making it clear where
peoples stand. Knowing all of this takes away
the mystery and confusion regarding the question
of what would determine whether a person would
survive Armageddon or not if it were to strike
today. /Yadirf.
* The NIV words it this way: "Since you have
kept my command to endure patiently, I will also
keep you from the hour of trial that is going
to come upon the whole world to test those who
live on the earth." -- Revelation 3:10.
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
the first seder of passover will be celebrated at sundown on wednesday, 27 march, 2002. the society will not celebrate the memorial until sundown, 28 march, 2002. once again they are a whole day off.
yerusalyim.
"vanity!
Actually, Yeru, I think a far more important question to ask is-Why does the Pope have a special costume that he wears? Why is that assumed necessary ... that the man be arrayed in such garb?
What quackery!
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
