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Maybe you are the faithful and discreet one.Nope, I'm definitely not of the anointed (144,000) ... cause, unlike them, I have a long way to go in order to qualify for everlasting life ... something THEY lay hands on during this life.
Posts by Yadirf
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38Another erroneous portrayal of the wild beast.
by Yadirf inabove is a picture whereby the scarlet beast of revelation 17 is portrayed, with the harlot aboard.
(i found it somewhere on the internet on friday.
) notice the horns ... the manner in which they are presented as being shared by all but one of the seven heads.
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Another erroneous portrayal of the wild beast.
by Yadirf inabove is a picture whereby the scarlet beast of revelation 17 is portrayed, with the harlot aboard.
(i found it somewhere on the internet on friday.
) notice the horns ... the manner in which they are presented as being shared by all but one of the seven heads.
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Joel
If both are wrong seems to me neither have "the truth".
For a fact, both Christendom as well as the Society ARE mistaken in their views regarding exactly where the 10 horns are perched on the wild beast. The difference however is that there exists hope/promise for the one (the WTS) but not the other, insofar as coming around to accurately understanding all about what the scarlet beast truly represents as well as the correct placement of the horns.Regarding your reference to this thing called “the truth”, I’ve tried to point out before that such a thing doesn’t require a 100% accurate understanding of the Bible.
Take care
Thanks, Joel.Yadirf
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Another erroneous portrayal of the wild beast.
by Yadirf inabove is a picture whereby the scarlet beast of revelation 17 is portrayed, with the harlot aboard.
(i found it somewhere on the internet on friday.
) notice the horns ... the manner in which they are presented as being shared by all but one of the seven heads.
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Yadirf
Okay, by Jody Blonde, I'll post it all over again since the system won't let me edit my mistakes. I hate errors that aren't allowed to be fixed, Simon!
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They are certainly no part of at least 5 of the heads.
I think that when a person considers verses 10 and 12 together it becomes quite clear that the 10 horns are completely irrelevant to the first 6 heads. It really amazes me that people can't grasp this point.Notice that verse 10 speaks of the 7th head/king as not having arrived yet, as of John's day (the first century).
Then, even as you've already called attention to, verse 12 speaks of ALL 10 horns as having not yet received a kingdom, as of John's day also.
With both texts in view it's seems so very obvious that the 10 horns fit into the same time frame as does the 7th head.
Yadirf
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Another erroneous portrayal of the wild beast.
by Yadirf inabove is a picture whereby the scarlet beast of revelation 17 is portrayed, with the harlot aboard.
(i found it somewhere on the internet on friday.
) notice the horns ... the manner in which they are presented as being shared by all but one of the seven heads.
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RF
[quote]They are certainly no part of at least 5 of the heads.
I think that when a person considers verses 10 and 12 together it becomes quite clear that the 10 horns are completely irrelevant to the first 6 heads. It really amazes me that people can't grasp this point.
Notice that verse 10 speaks of the 7th head/king as not having arrived yet, as of John's day (the first century).
Then, even as you've already called attention to, verse 12 speaks of ALL 10 horns as having not yet received a kingdom, as of John's day also.
With both texts in view it's seems so very obvious that the 10 horns fit into the same time frame as does the 7th[/b] head.
Yadirf
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Another erroneous portrayal of the wild beast.
by Yadirf inabove is a picture whereby the scarlet beast of revelation 17 is portrayed, with the harlot aboard.
(i found it somewhere on the internet on friday.
) notice the horns ... the manner in which they are presented as being shared by all but one of the seven heads.
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jerome
"Independant thinking"? Whatever you wish to call it, it's scriptural. See Daniel 11:35.
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Another erroneous portrayal of the wild beast.
by Yadirf inabove is a picture whereby the scarlet beast of revelation 17 is portrayed, with the harlot aboard.
(i found it somewhere on the internet on friday.
) notice the horns ... the manner in which they are presented as being shared by all but one of the seven heads.
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Yadirf
refiners fire
You didn't notice the GREEN also?
I'm somewhat disenchanted with you, RF.
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Bible Fake: Jesus Stills the Storm
by JosephAlward ini've argued before in this forum that mark wanted to have jesus seem to be the messiah whose existence he believed--or pretended to believe--was prophesied, foreshadowed, or prefigured, by persons and events found in scripture, so he scoured the writings of the prophets for these stories, and adapted them to fit jesus.
i believe the striking parallels below show almost conclusively that mark's story about jesus stilling the storm was adapted from jonah, and is fictional.. in jonah, a violent storm threatens a ship on which jonah sleeps, so mark made a violent storm threaten a ship on which jesus sleeps.
in jonah, the apprehensive sailors waken jonah and question his cavalier attitude toward the danger, so mark made his boat's captain apprehensive also, and had him, too, waken jesus and question him about his seeming lack of concern.
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Yadirf
JosephAlward
Your argument makes no sense to me, Yadirf. I can usually guess what a person is trying to say, but not in this case.
Well, you had said previously: “If the Bible writers really expected their readers to believe this story, they would have told the readers that it was through a miracle from God that Jonah was allowed to live.”Then you brought up “the story of the sun being stopped in its tracks”. You argued that, because “the writer made sure the readers knew that this astonishing event was caused by the Lord”, it made the account more plausible.
In response to that, I simply brought up a text (namely Matthew 24:29) in which nothing whatsoever was said there as well, insofar as attributing the miraculous happenings to “the Lord”. Of course my purpose was merely to emphasize the fact that, according to YOUR way of thinking, since Matthew failed to 'make sure the readers knew that this astonishing event will be caused by the Lord' (your words for the most part) then surely the account can be nothing more than a fairy tale. In other words, this is ANOTHER text yet that would present itself as one to be labeled a fable by you -- SOLELY on the grounds that the author chose to not include words that would attribute such a celestial event to God. I think your logic here is ridiculous. I will say though that you are being very polite in your comebacks -- I haven't seen you being nasty -- but that’s about all I can say.
Hope that’s more clear now. If not, I give up for now. I must get some sleep, even as I intended to do about an hour and a half ago.
Yadirf
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Another erroneous portrayal of the wild beast.
by Yadirf inabove is a picture whereby the scarlet beast of revelation 17 is portrayed, with the harlot aboard.
(i found it somewhere on the internet on friday.
) notice the horns ... the manner in which they are presented as being shared by all but one of the seven heads.
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Yadirf
"Pay attention to the little things, and you might the big things right." -- Me.
I left out the word "get". C'mon Simon, fix the cotton pickin' thing soze weze can edit!
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Another erroneous portrayal of the wild beast.
by Yadirf inabove is a picture whereby the scarlet beast of revelation 17 is portrayed, with the harlot aboard.
(i found it somewhere on the internet on friday.
) notice the horns ... the manner in which they are presented as being shared by all but one of the seven heads.
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Yadirf
It's nearing 2:00 A.M. here.
I meant to say 3:00 A.M. instead of 2:00 A.M.
"Pay attention to the little things, and you might the big things right." -- Me.
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Another erroneous portrayal of the wild beast.
by Yadirf inabove is a picture whereby the scarlet beast of revelation 17 is portrayed, with the harlot aboard.
(i found it somewhere on the internet on friday.
) notice the horns ... the manner in which they are presented as being shared by all but one of the seven heads.
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Yadirf
Above is a picture whereby the scarlet beast of Revelation 17 is portrayed, with the harlot aboard. (I found it somewhere on the Internet on Friday.) Notice the horns ... the manner in which they are presented as being shared by all but one of the seven heads. Four heads are shown having 2 horns (= 8 horns), two heads have one horn each (= a total of 10 horns), and the other head, sort of behind the woman's arm, is void of any horns.
Now the WTS on the other hand presents the beast as having three heads with two horns each, and four heads with one horn each. (Note pictures below.)
Of course both representations are wrong. All ten horns belong to only one of the seven heads, namely the seventh.
I think it's interesting to note that the picture here presents things the EXACT opposite to the way it really is. In other words it shows that all but one head has horns, while the truth is that there is only one head that has horns -- or said another way, all the heads but one have NO horns.
It's no surprise to me that one is able to find a picture such as this produced by Christendom whereby the very OPPOSITE of the truth is presented, particularly in view of the Bible's revelation regarding her source/beginnings. -- Matthew 13:24-30.
She, Christendom, the product of the seed sown by Satan, teaches the very opposite of the truth with regards to these several things which immediately come to my mind:
1) The mortality of the human soul.2) The identity of Michael being Jesus.
3) Jesus is not part of a so-called "Trinity".
4) Only a limited, specified number are to go to heaven (144,000).
5) God never abandoned his original plan of a paradise earth.
6) "No part of the world" means no participation in wars, politics, worldly holidays/celebrations, etc.
7) True Christians do no practice interfaith.
8) I'm too sleepy to continue thinking. Goodnight. In reality, "good morning". It's nearing 2:00 A.M. here. My how tyme flyz!
Yadurdy
Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.