i don't know why i keep burdening this group.
no one else in my life can really relate to the intertwined emotions i am going through.
my bear friends are there, including mitch, and they they try to keep my cheered up.
breeze,
I'm sorry to hear that you have PN. Are you aware of the following PN discussion forum? Some people who post there claim to get pain relief by taking the drug "Neurontin," which I have been told is a fairly safe drug. Others though say that it doesn't do anything at all for them. I hope that yours doesn't progress to becoming worse than it is now. I shouldn't have implied that PN is always progressive, because I don't know that to be true in every case.
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this is an amplification and adjustment in understanding of what appears in the watchtower of november 15, 1974, pages 703-704, and of february 15, 1978, pages 30-32. those who acted on the basis of the knowledge they had at the time are not to be criticized.
nor would this affect the standing of a person who in the past believed that a mates perverted sexual conduct within marriage amounted to porneia and, hence, obtained a divorce and is now remarried.
with this one little footnote in the wt it wiped out folks very lives- notice they refer to such a major doctrinal shift as an "amplification and adjustment in understanding".
Gwen,
Whether you still believe the Bible or not, you can't refute the fact that the Bible itself shows that those ones who shoulder the duties as teachers of God's Word would err, and as a result of such misunderstandings refinements would become necessary. Have you never read Daniel 11:35....Yadirf,
Then the wbts FALSELY CLAIM that they have "accurate" knowlege of the Bible....
There are many things that the WTS holds to that is indeed "accurate" knowledge. And, contrary to the light you place them in, the WTS has NEVER claimed to be infallible. Plus, they have made it known that refinements can be expected as the Bible is better understood.
What they teach as supposed teachings of God is destroying many many many many of their followers lives. They will have to pay the price for exhaulting themselves and for becoming so puffed up with pride and for all their greed.
"What they teach as supposed teachings of God"? Isn't that what one would expect them to teach, that is, that which they do in fact understand to be the teachings of God? Your words, in red, apply so well to Christendom because she hasn't even got the basics right. Think of how many of Christendom's adherants have been deceived into believing that they were bound for heaven when they died. What a pity! Thus, Christendom, who claims to represent God Almighty, has taught her followers falsehoods with regards to the most fundamental things of life and the Bible.
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i don't know why i keep burdening this group.
no one else in my life can really relate to the intertwined emotions i am going through.
my bear friends are there, including mitch, and they they try to keep my cheered up.
SixofNine,
Sorry for the delay, I've been off wondering around. :)
"Peripheral neuropathy" describes nerve damage in the extremities, for example in the feet and legs, hands and arms. In my particular case it began with my feet but since then it has slowly progressed up into my calves, and now more recently I have begun to feel the beginnings of it in the tips of my fingers (stinging and/or tingling). One of the primary sensations felt is that it's as if the person with PN is walking barefoot on rocks, and so it's quite uncomfortable to be on one's feet. Then, as PN progresses, the affected limbs become numb. Presently, I have numbness in parts of both my feet and toes. There is an accompanying burning sensation that, unless one is on a pain medication, won't allow the person to sleep. The feet are "tight" and feel much like they are in a vise.
Insofar as the cause of PN, when the source can't readily be determined I've read that then it's generally blamed on poor nutrition. (My doctors simply say that they don't know what caused it.) People that are diabetics are especially prone to acquire PN. But, I'm not a diabetic. There are also certain medications that can induce PN in a person, I've recently learned. Too, certain toxins, such as mercury, can damage the peripheral nerves. And, regarding "mercury," I recently found out that the amalgam fillings ("silver fillings") that dentists have used for well over a century now are composed of 50% mercury (each containing about the equivalent found in a thermometer). And now, it's claimed, that over the years the mercury leaks out in the form of vapor and is absorbed into the body. Simply because of what I've read over the Internet regarding amalgam fillings, and also because my doctors haven't a clue as to the source for my PN, I'm presently undergoing the process of getting the 6 amalgams removed from my teeth, two at a time, over a period of about 90 days (3 sessions all together). I've gotten one session out of the way already. However, even if the mercury that has been in my teeth since I was a teenager were by some chance the actual "source" of my PN, my ridding myself of the amalgams won't reverse the damage that's already been done. All such a precaution will hopefully do is stop the progression of the PN.
Insofar as PN goes, I wouldn't wish it off on my worst enemy. It's a terrible thing to live with.
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this is an amplification and adjustment in understanding of what appears in the watchtower of november 15, 1974, pages 703-704, and of february 15, 1978, pages 30-32. those who acted on the basis of the knowledge they had at the time are not to be criticized.
nor would this affect the standing of a person who in the past believed that a mates perverted sexual conduct within marriage amounted to porneia and, hence, obtained a divorce and is now remarried.
with this one little footnote in the wt it wiped out folks very lives- notice they refer to such a major doctrinal shift as an "amplification and adjustment in understanding".
JT,
Perhaps it would help if you were to print out the Daniel 11:35 text in large font (say around size "72") and place in on the wall nearest to your bed. That way you can fall asleep each night trying to figure out how that text bears on every objection you bring up. Believe me, you haven't got the foggiest idea at the moment.
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i don't know why i keep burdening this group.
no one else in my life can really relate to the intertwined emotions i am going through.
my bear friends are there, including mitch, and they they try to keep my cheered up.
Happiness comes from being content with the "now", if we like where we're at, we won't be depressed.
And just exactly "where" are we at, that we should be so content with it all? The human race doesn't really know what real happiness is, because no one has ever experienced it except for the short time that Adam and Eve did. "If we like where we're at, we won't be depressed," you say? Well, maybe you like the sort of life that came with being outside the Garden of Eden, and maybe you don't consider being alienated from your Creator to be a very serious matter. I suppose that I'll allow you that latitude ... particularly since I'm not God.
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i don't know why i keep burdening this group.
no one else in my life can really relate to the intertwined emotions i am going through.
my bear friends are there, including mitch, and they they try to keep my cheered up.
Joel,
I too know what it feels like to be depressed at times, since I have an incurable affliction called "peripheral neuropathy". Depression is a hard thing to deal with. There's a feeling of hopelessness associated with it. That being the case, one does well to focus on thoughts that are hope-inspiring. What we all need is Christ's Kingdom to come. Because that's the real, permanent solution to all the things that ail us. The Bible plainly shows that Christ's Kingdom will be 'born' during the days of the very "king" that we see ruling today, namely the 7th. (Re 13:1; 17:10) Personally, I find it "hope-inspiring" to consider and remind myself of what I've learned relevant to those texts, and review them occasionally for the uplift they provide. Of course, the Society has erred in explaining the 7th king to be the United States and Great Britain even as they've erred in believing that the Kingdom was established in 1914 (but the fulfillment of Daniel 11:35 will take care of that). What I'm saying, is that it's not outside the realm of possibility that you could personally witness that momentous event, since you are a contemporary of the 7th king. But what if that does happen, and you're not around to observe it because you allowed depression to get the best of you. Now that's not a very happy thought, is it?
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this is an amplification and adjustment in understanding of what appears in the watchtower of november 15, 1974, pages 703-704, and of february 15, 1978, pages 30-32. those who acted on the basis of the knowledge they had at the time are not to be criticized.
nor would this affect the standing of a person who in the past believed that a mates perverted sexual conduct within marriage amounted to porneia and, hence, obtained a divorce and is now remarried.
with this one little footnote in the wt it wiped out folks very lives- notice they refer to such a major doctrinal shift as an "amplification and adjustment in understanding".
JT,
I'll repeat:
Whether you still believe the Bible or not, you can't refute the fact that the Bible itself shows that those ones who shoulder the duties as teachers of God's Word would err, and as a result of such misunderstandings refinements would become necessary. Have you never read Daniel 11:35....
How much more plain can I and the Bible make it for you? It's your prejudice that prevents you from being able to grasp the implications of the above text. The fact that such erroneous teachings result in 'stumbling' others would in itself indicate that those errors are not of a minor sort.
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this is an amplification and adjustment in understanding of what appears in the watchtower of november 15, 1974, pages 703-704, and of february 15, 1978, pages 30-32. those who acted on the basis of the knowledge they had at the time are not to be criticized.
nor would this affect the standing of a person who in the past believed that a mates perverted sexual conduct within marriage amounted to porneia and, hence, obtained a divorce and is now remarried.
with this one little footnote in the wt it wiped out folks very lives- notice they refer to such a major doctrinal shift as an "amplification and adjustment in understanding".
You people who post here are some of the most unreasonable and unknowledgeable persons I've ever encountered. Whether you still believe the Bible or not, you can't refute the fact that the Bible itself shows that those ones who shoulder the duties as teachers of God's Word would err, and as a result of such misunderstandings refinements would become necessary. Have you never read Daniel 11:35 while actually thinking about what you're reading? Probably not, since you spend most of your life's time trying to find a fault!
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dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
"Mud-Slinging"? Me referring to you as being a spineless weasel? When exactly did stating a fact come to be thought of as slinging mud?
Also, with regards to this statement of yours:
I think [Yadirf's comments in this thread] show a "perfect" example of what a "True Christian" should be like!
Can't you all picture Jesus and His Disciples saying the following things?
Are YOU yourself not one who thinks himself to be a "True Christian"? Shall I provide the proof that such is the case? Yet there are expressions that you've used in this very thread that one can't possibly fathom even being in Jesus' vocabulary. Shall I provide examples? You hypocrite! You're a typical example of those who attend Christendom's churches, even as the loose, worldly language that you use betrays.
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dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
UnDisfellowshipped,
I think it's fun to sit back and read some of Yadirf's comments in this Thread!
Here's one you missed, that was addressed to YOU. Did you intentionally overlook it? Pay particular attention to the part highlighted:
One thing that has become plainly evident to me during our exchange is that you mirror the average member in Christendom. You make assertations, but you flee when it gets right down to the nitty-gritty of the issue being discussed. You spineless weasel!.
