Posts by YERU2

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Reality check: World less happy about America

by Pathofthorns in

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facinating results from a global poll relating to public opinions of america in various countries around the world.. [url] http://www.torontostar.com/nasapp/cs/contentserver?pagename=thestar/layout/article_type1&c=article&cid=1035775217105&call_pageid=968332188854&col=968350060724[/url].

a major survey on international opinion released in washington yesterday shows u.s. popularity has plunged across much of the world amid mounting perceptions that the united states is running roughshod over other nations.

the planet's sole superpower commands only tepid affection, just as the u.s. government struggles to win international support for a possible military incursion against iraq as the next stage in its war on terrorism.. in fact, the prospect of a u.s.-led offensive aimed at overthrowing iraqi dictator saddam hussein has become a major irritant between washington and even its closest allies.. .

YERU2

Realist,

You, dear heart, need a reality check. The Radical Muslims hate the US because of our music and our wealth, because our culture affects theirs and lures their youth away from the way of Allah.

Give me an example where the US has intervened in the Arab world without the request of one of the countries involved? Saudi? Nope, they invited us there? Iran, nope, We were invited there. Israel, nope the Israelis invited us. With this one exception of TODAY with Iraq, the Arabs didn't invite us. Your conclusions are all wrong.

If the US were completely withdrawn from the world political stage, the Radical Muslims would still hate us, and still attack us.

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How would you answer?

by sunshineToo in

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i hate hearing, "you left jehovah?

" as if i abandoned god.

i get angry.

YERU2

I think your orignal answer is the best one, said with a smile, and genuine love.

Zol,

Dude, get a life and look around you. The most moral people I know are NOT Jehovah's Witnesses. Should I hold up the model of the JW MS sleeping around on his wife and at the Bar on Friday as my example of the JW norm? How about the one who receives unemployment, yet goes out and works and gets paid under the table, or the one on welfare, but getting almost $400.00 a week from a side job. How about the one who cheats on his taxes, or the one who molests kids, or the Elders that DF the kid for telling because there weren't two witnesses? The Borganization is no "cleaner" than any other.

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everone is in confusion

by zolensky in

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i joined this site last week hoping to meet people that would steer me back to the organization.

instead the people i have talked to her are all trying to tell me too see the light and get out of the organization.

in my opinion, not that it matters, i really think that if a person had the truth deeply ingrained in them, they would never leave the truth.

YERU2

Zol,

If there are hate in the replies it's due to the hate, and hurt we or our loved ones have received at the hands of the organization.

If you want to be a good happy JW you really shouldn't be here. Go back to the meetings. If you want to know the real truth about the Organization, stick around. Read your bible for about a year without the "watchtower helps" and see if your line of thinking doesn't change.

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What's The Nicest Thing Anybody's Done For You?

by minimus in

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is there anything that jumps out at you ?

did a person ever do something that was so thoughtful, that you were overwhelmed by it?

YERU2

The nicest thing anyone has done for me? Can I mention that in this forum? What about the kids?

Ohh, I got one. I am ETERNALLY grateful to my grandmother (God Rest Her Soul). As a teen in need of spending money I'd go see her, but she never gave it to me. She would, however, let me earn it. She owned a small trailer park, there was always grass to be cut, leaves to be raked, stick to pick up out of the yard, windows to wash, gardens to be weeded, etc. I never walked away empty handed, but I always had to WORK for the money. Grandma taught me a good work ethic. I don't like taking handouts at all. It was a hard thing for me to swallow my pride back in the early 90's and get on food stamps for about a year.

Shortly before she passed grandma was pitching out old checks that she had kept through the years. There was an enormous stack of checks made out to my brothers and I. Some for just $5 or $10, others for as much as $40. That was a lot of money for a kid in the 70's. Shoot, I was able to take my first wife out all weekend on $20. $3 for gas, $6 for McDonalds, the rest for a Chicken and Beer dance at the Knights of Columbus hall.

I love to work and pay my way to this day. I'm glad neither grandma or my parents just "gave" me money, but made me do something to earn it.

I tried to pay her back by doing things like shoveling her walk, digging her car out, raking leaves, etc and refusing payment, though she continued to try to pay me. Sometimes she'd still make me take the money, even after I had a job that paid well enough not to need the "granny supplement".

I miss my no nonsense, calling a spade a spade, sweet, strong willed and frankly WIERD grandmother. Wierd because at the age of 21, in 1929, she shaved her head bald just to piss my grandpa off! She used to steal pocket money from his pants when he was asleep (passed out drunk) and was able to pay $1200 cash in 1944 for the house she lived in until her death. She divorced and then remarried the old codger in 1958. She would wait till he passed out and beat him with a broom stick. She once told me "Your grandpa woke up one morning and said, 'Geneva, I'm stiff, it feels like someone beat me with a stick last night' and I replied, "I did ya old son of a b*tch!"

Grandma was just cool that way.

Edited by - Yeru2 on 9 December 2002 15:21:40

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What if the U.N doesn't find anything in Iraq?

by kril in

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it hit me a few days ago.

what happens if the u.n. searchs iraq and they find nothing?

i mean it's kind of scary to think what will happen to bush's job approval rating if that happens.

YERU2

100 Billion to fight Saddam? Maybe, but I think that's an over estimate, more like 25 billion. Sooo, we take this 25 or 100 billion and try to improve health care in the world. It still doesn't stop folks like Saddam and Bin Laden from hating us, in fact, they hate us more. The world is no safer for the spending of the Billions on health care than it was before, in fact, it's more dangerous because Saddam, in the mean time, is stealing his billions from the "oil for food" program and develops nukes.

I for one am not ready to cede the right of self protection to the UN, a body that is pretty antiamerican and whose member nations are not, in the whole, democratic. A body that gives a seat to the likes of Yassir Arafat, even if only as an observer, has some skewed priorities for world peace and is not to be trusted.

Edited by - Yeru2 on 9 December 2002 14:58:40

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12 Days of Christmas

by Yerusalyim in

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so i'm really bad about posting everyting in the "friends" forum.

the origin of the twelve days of christmas .

you're all familiar with the christmas song, "the twelve days of christmas" i think.

YERU2

Look, I have no more idea than the man on the moon whether the story is true or not. Frankly, it doesn't matter. In the tradition of Catholic Christianity I have used this song to teach my kids the truths I beleive in line with the interpretation given.

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Catholics cannonized the Bible, right?

by StinkyPantz in

isn't it true that the roman catholic church put together the bible (canonized the books), and decided the order and all that?

if this isn't true set me straight please.. what do the witnesses think about this?

is it (the bible) just as valid if part of "christendom" decided which books of the bible would be included?

YERU2

Any serious Scholar DOES question the real existance of Jesus.

Name one who has questioned that existence and decided Jesus was a myth. Not even the Jewish Scholars who work to contradict Christian Missionaries in their community deny Jesus really lived.

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So Should Germany Be Dictating Terms?

by Englishman in

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berlin germany has told the united states it will withhold evidence against sept. 11 conspiracy defendant zacarias moussaoui unless it receives assurances that the material won't be used to secure a death penalty against him, germany's justice minister said in remarks released saturday.

just seen this on the news.

i know that european countries won't extradite anyone to the us if they could face the death penalty, but this seems a very different kettle of fish somehow.

YERU2

When has the US intervened in the Middle East without first being invited by an Arab country? The Saudis invited us to develop their oil fields, Kuwait and Saudi asked our help with Sadam, Israel has been our constant ally. Nay, it was the Europeans, and specifically the Brits who intervened in the Middle East as a result of conquest of war against other European powers. I suppose that yes, if Germany has in the past been complicit in aiding the terrorists there is no reason for them to hit Germany.

HOW EXACTLY has the US caused great suffering among Arabs? We've raised their standard of living, I guess that's harm?

You Said,

also if a country is constantly wageing war all around the world it is a natural consequence that it gets hit back at some point.

I take it then that you support Terrorism as a valid form of warfare?

What have we done to Bin Ladin or the Saudis SPECIFICALLY, that gave them the right to kill 3000 INNOCENT CIVILIANS?

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Dr Bergman

by YERU2 in

hey, can ya point me to statistics of suicide rates amongst witnesses as opposed to the population as a whole?

YERU2

Hey, can ya point me to statistics of suicide rates amongst Witnesses as opposed to the population as a whole?

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Catholics cannonized the Bible, right?

by StinkyPantz in

isn't it true that the roman catholic church put together the bible (canonized the books), and decided the order and all that?

if this isn't true set me straight please.. what do the witnesses think about this?

is it (the bible) just as valid if part of "christendom" decided which books of the bible would be included?

YERU2

The Athanasian Creed is still used widely in the Eastern Churches, it's somewhat lenthy and ponderous for western tastes, but deeply theological.