Posts by Yerusalyim

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3 Gods Equal 1 God?

by 7robert7 in

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as i sat back thinking of some of the discussions i've had with witnesses over the years, one always stands out.

the issue of the trinity teaching, whereby father(jehovah), son(jesus), and holy spirit when combined equal one god.

a witness friend from work once said that it was an impossability, and was beyond human understanding.. i asked him what he thought we believed about the trinity, to which he responded with a math lesson.. 1 jehovah god + 1 jesus god + 1 holy spirit god = 3 gods, he went on to state that 1 + 1 + 1 can never equal 1 god, it always equals 3. to which i added a little math lesson i learned as a child.. 1 jehovah god x 1 jesus god x 1 holy spirit god can equal 1 almighty god.

Yerusalyim

Undecided,

You're trying to understand this from a human perspective, see things as God sees them, not as man does. What is illogical or impossible for man is EASY for God.

NO ONE KNOW THE DAY OR THE HOUR...It was NOT Jesus mission to reveal that, he could only reveal what the Father sent him to reveal. Jesus has two natures, human and divine, within His human nature, it was NOT God's will to reveal hours and days.

Father, Into your hands I commend my spirit... Jesus being God/man trusted the Father.

Why HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME...The mystery of the crucifixion, First, Jesus was PRAYING not despairing that is the 22 Psalm read it. Secondly, Jesus suffered for us what had NEVER before been, Still being both God and Man, Jesus was seperated from the Father.

THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN I...especially in His human nature, but also the Father is the Father, the Father, eternally begets the Son, the Father Speaks and the Son acts..

THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON...YEP ETERNALLY BEGOTTEN!

NOT MY WILL BUT YOUR WILL...Jesus is God/Man, he has a human will, he submited that will to the Father.

Finally John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God and the Word WAS God. Clear testimony of the Trinity. The WOrd already existed in the Beginning.

God is the SOURCE of creation. We look and see that the universe was created, therefore it must have had a creator. Just a point of view.

Yeru

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3 Gods Equal 1 God?

by 7robert7 in

jw
friends

as i sat back thinking of some of the discussions i've had with witnesses over the years, one always stands out.

the issue of the trinity teaching, whereby father(jehovah), son(jesus), and holy spirit when combined equal one god.

a witness friend from work once said that it was an impossability, and was beyond human understanding.. i asked him what he thought we believed about the trinity, to which he responded with a math lesson.. 1 jehovah god + 1 jesus god + 1 holy spirit god = 3 gods, he went on to state that 1 + 1 + 1 can never equal 1 god, it always equals 3. to which i added a little math lesson i learned as a child.. 1 jehovah god x 1 jesus god x 1 holy spirit god can equal 1 almighty god.

Yerusalyim

I'm tired of being a NEWBIE, I want to be a Junior Member, how many times do I need to post to become a "Junior member"?

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Indisputable/physical facts

by Norm in

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in the bizarre world that exist within the watchtower society headquarters in brooklyn you can find all kinds of strange statements.

particularly funny is the use of the expressions indisputable/physical facts.

according to the watchtower from 1922, indisputable facts showed that jesus second presence began in 1874!

Yerusalyim

I'm tired of being a NEWBIE, I want to be a Junior Member, how many times do I need to post to become a "Junior member"?

5

I wanna be

by Yerusalyim in

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i'm tired of being a newbie, i want to be a junior member, how many times do i need to post to become a "junior member"?

Yerusalyim

I'm tired of being a NEWBIE, I want to be a Junior Member, how many times do I need to post to become a "Junior member"?

5

I wanna be

by Yerusalyim in

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i'm tired of being a newbie, i want to be a junior member, how many times do i need to post to become a "junior member"?

Yerusalyim

I'm tired of being a NEWBIE, I want to be a Junior Member, how many times do I need to post to become a "Junior member"?

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So Can DF'ing Be A Bonus?

by Englishman in

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im passionately opposed to the unscriptural practice of disfellowshipping.

i believe that it preys on mankinds worse fears of being left alone, an outcast, a pariah shunned by ones own tribe, a person so reprehensible that even ones very existence is left unacknowledged.

its certainly not the invention of a caring creator, and as for it being a loving act for the dfd one, please dont insult my intelligence.. that being said, i wonder whether or not disfellowshipping can actually be a refuge for the disillusioned witness?

Yerusalyim

I guess if one can overcome the emotional kick in the jimmy over being disfellowshipped it could be a good thing, who knows. Hi Englishman, I missed you ALMOST as much as I did FRED.
Yeru

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Greetings from the Newbie

by Yerusalyim in

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greetings one and all, many of you will know me from rick's board, for those of you who don't here's a bit about me.

my association with the society is through my wife.

when we married she was an inactive memeber (she had disassociated herself over guilt from her divorce), after marrying me, she became active again and was reinstated.

Yerusalyim

neyank,

Well, up until about 18 months ago it was with 10 GP over in Stuttgart. GREAT UNIT, I know most of the Chaplain Staff that is at Carson and Stuttgart now. I'm currently with 5th.

Blessings

Yeru

15

Where do I stand?

by Bubba99 in

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this is my first post on this site... i will post more details of my story later.. my spouse has obtained an unscriptural divorce.

does anyone know where that leaves me as to my being free to remarry?.

i noticed the following in the elders manual, the wording seems to contradict itself.

Yerusalyim

Bubba,

My first advice would be find another church, baring that, according to the Elder's manual, you are free to remarry since your spouse has rejected you and gotten an unscriptural divorce. Don't do the adultery thing though. Looking forward to hearing more of your story. Today was my first post too. WELCOME, and Happy Resurrection Sunday (aka Easter) with all it's inherent JOY.

Yeru

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Greetings from the Newbie

by Yerusalyim in

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friends

greetings one and all, many of you will know me from rick's board, for those of you who don't here's a bit about me.

my association with the society is through my wife.

when we married she was an inactive memeber (she had disassociated herself over guilt from her divorce), after marrying me, she became active again and was reinstated.

Yerusalyim

Flower,

I think that by submitting a formal Disassociation Letter my wife would be acknowledging or legitimizing the Borg. It would be tantamount to her submitting to a judicial committee hearing if they found out she was going to mass with me at my church. Submitting to a committee meeting would be saying, yes, you still have influence in my life, same same with the DA letter, sending a DA letter would be validating the rules of the BORG. I think the ultimate in breaking with the BORG is just walking away, not hiding, just walking away proudly.

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Greetings from the Newbie

by Yerusalyim in

jw
friends

greetings one and all, many of you will know me from rick's board, for those of you who don't here's a bit about me.

my association with the society is through my wife.

when we married she was an inactive memeber (she had disassociated herself over guilt from her divorce), after marrying me, she became active again and was reinstated.

Yerusalyim

Greetings one and all, many of you will know me from Rick's board, for those of you who don't here's a bit about me. My association with the Society is through my wife. When we married she was an inactive memeber (she had disassociated herself over guilt from her divorce), after marrying me, she became active again and was reinstated. She has since become inactive, though not officially disassociating herself, I hope she doesn't officially do it as it would acknowledge the Society still has a hold on her. As of the Christmas time frame she told me she was considering converting to the Catholicism of her youth, which I currently practice, She reaffirmed this for me just before Easter. We have six children my three are Catholic, her three are JW (because of the Father). her 20 year old is pretty much just a Memorial and occasional Sunday Witness though he was baptized and a publisher; her 17 year old is a baptized publisher with SERIOUS disagreements with the society on blood, voting, shunning, and a few other issues, her 13 year old only attends meetings when he stays with his father, though I told him I would take him anytime he wants to go, and have taken him in the past. he's really not all that interested. My three go to church with me weekly, what their faith commitment is we'll see when they get older. One is 12, the other 11, and the youngest 6.
I serve in the United States Army as a Chaplain's Assistant in a SPecial Forces unit. I'm very opinionated, but usually gentle in my posts. I LOVE FRED HALL, he's generally my favorite Poster. I think many in the society are very sincere, but I think the Society itself is self serving, disingenious and sincerely WRONG.

God Bless, see out there.

Yerusalyim (of the NeoPhyte class)