c. t. russell had been critical of those who had set various dates for the lords return, such as william miller and some second adventist groups.
*** jv 61-3 6 a time of testing (1914-1918) ***.
the years from 1914 to 1918 did, indeed, prove to be a testing season for the bible students.
LDH:
you missed the following sentence to the statement you refer to:
In saying “anyone,” The Watchtower included all disappointed ones of Jehovah’s Witnesses, hence including persons having to do with the publication of the information that contributed to the buildup of hopes centered on that date.
That includes the brothers in the Writing Department. So they are not blaming the sheep, but the brothers in Bethel.
Understand, mamasita?
if it is possible can you post why you were disfellowshipped?
shecky2: YOu got that right. This way I know who to avoid.
c. t. russell had been critical of those who had set various dates for the lords return, such as william miller and some second adventist groups.
*** jv 61-3 6 a time of testing (1914-1918) ***.
the years from 1914 to 1918 did, indeed, prove to be a testing season for the bible students.
Outlaw: Actually I'm not called a liar on a daily basis. This is just a lame way for you to insult me. Only a few have insulted, but what else should I expect here. In reality, I've had pretty good conversations with many on this board.
if it is possible can you post why you were disfellowshipped?
I'm just curious.
if it is possible can you post why you were disfellowshipped?
If it is possible can you post why you were disfellowshipped?
much evidence has been provided to demonstrate that the wts is a false prophet even though jws will say anything to deny this unpleasant fact.
generally they act and teach explicitly that the gb speaks for god - that it is is god's sole channel of communication - but also claim that the gb is not inspired.
that is a distinction without a difference.. this has caused you know to be on the lookout for jw teachings "channeled" to him by the slave but which are without a bible basis.
I will answer your question after you answer this one: How was the 1st century Governing Body in Jerusalem able to decide the issue on circumsition?
c. t. russell had been critical of those who had set various dates for the lords return, such as william miller and some second adventist groups.
*** jv 61-3 6 a time of testing (1914-1918) ***.
the years from 1914 to 1918 did, indeed, prove to be a testing season for the bible students.
If you did not support the idea of armagedon by 1975 you would get the boot,that is why people supported that lie for decades.They lived in fear of going against that teaching.
Wow, this is so untrue. And please clean up your language, how old are you?
c. t. russell had been critical of those who had set various dates for the lords return, such as william miller and some second adventist groups.
*** jv 61-3 6 a time of testing (1914-1918) ***.
the years from 1914 to 1918 did, indeed, prove to be a testing season for the bible students.
How does it feel to know that you are a liar?
I don't know, you tell me.
And how does it feel at your attempts to beat up on your former brothers and sisters? And how does it feel to be so hateful? And how does it feel to speak against Jehovah?
good day all.
a few serious questions.
topics are chosen only to make the answers quick and easy.
Would you be disfellowshipped as an apostate from the WT TODAY, if you believed and taught the Society's doctrines of 1920? (after the inspection)
YES______ NO___X___
It would be kind of dumb for me to believe old light when there is new understanding that is backed by the scriptures
Would a JW of 1920 have been disfellowshipped if he then believed and taught present-day WT doctrines?
YES______ NO___X___
Not if they were humble and waited on the FDS to make the necessary adjustments. Now if the person was stubborn and full of himself, well that's a different picture.
Would a JW living in 1913 have been disfellowshipped from the WT if he believed and taught that 1914 was NOT going to be the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty" or Armagedon as the Society was then saying (StinScrip, VolII, The Time Is At Hand, 1908 ed. pg 101, 171 & 245)?
YES______ NO___X___
Not all Bible Students (as they were called) agreed exactly on what would happen in 1914. The knew the Gentile Times were ending, but besides that they weren't totally sure.
Is it right to be disfellowshipped and treated as an apostate for believing and teaching the TRUTH?
YES______ NO___X___
Of course not, that is why I'm not disfellowshipped. Now if I started making a big fuss about every single thing the Organization does, then I open criticize what their doing, and trying to hurt by brothers and sisters, then I'd get kicked out very quickly.
Since the WT's doctrines and practices are continually changing, would you say that thousands of JWs in the past were NOT "in the truth" according to present-day WT teachings, as they confessed?
YES______ NO___X___
They were in the truth and tought the truth about Hell fire, the ransom sacrifice, the trinity, condition of the dead, etc.
Have thousands of JWs died believing and teaching WT "errors", according to present-day WT teachings?
YES______ NO___X___
Did you know that CT Russell taught the resurrected Jesus is "Almighty" based on his conclusion of Matt 28:18 (The Finished Mystery pg 15)?
YES______ NO___X___
According to Matt 28:18, is it the Father or the Son who as "ALL authority" in HEAVEN and on earth?
FATHER______ SON___X___
Tricky question, the Father grants that authority, as in delegating, to his son
As a JW are you allowed to worship the one with "ALL authority" in HEAVEN and on earth?
YES___X___ NO______
What is more important? Loyalty the the Truth or loyalty to the TruthTM?
Can you distinguish between the Two?
YES______ NO______ Huh?___X____ (you must define the TM.
Since the WT's doctrines and practices are continually changing, would you say that thousands of JWs in the past were NOT in the truthTM according to present-day WT teachings, as they confessed?
YES_____ NO___X___
Are you sure the same thing won't happen to YOU?
YES__X___ NO______
i posted this same topic earlier but it didn't go through so i have to do it again.. i didn't think my ten questions would cause a person(youknow) to be attacked because his opinions was different from the majority.. alanf.
i don't know you personally and i don't know what you have gone through in your life, but i can say from what i have seen in here you have a lot of angry,hate, and other issues inside you that needs to be dealt with.
you oblivious have some sort of history with this man.
Dave:
I want to apologize for calling you Randy, I don't were I got that from. I also did not mean to to poke into your family problems. I only have a problem with blaming everything on the Witnesses. I am guessing that your mom is a smart lady (she is my sister you know), I am guessing that because you seem like a smart guy (you have a way with words). I really do not think she is brainwashed. She is making her personal choice. She reads the Bible and understands that she needs to keep away from you. I don't know exactly why. Instead of just blaming Witnesses, which is the easy thing to do, have you examined yourself and how you speak to you mom. Danni is right, you should talk to her. Not about religion, beliefs, the Bible, but as a son and mom.
To answer some questions that you posted (I guess so that I could be impressed somehow): Yes, I did know Fred Franz. I also know and spoken thoroughly with all the present members of the GB. I also spent time at Bethel. But really all that is irrelevant. I don't know what you saw or what you imagined you saw, but I believe that you are blinded by your anger and emotions. Good luck with that.
