Posts by yrs2long

he has decided to go public with his apostate leanings, because it is becoming too hard to play the role of a meek, spiritually weak witness--complete with looks of pity and concern from his mother and siblings, and contempt from his sister-in-law.

timmm is sure one brother will have nothing to do with him after this, and he can live with that.

yrs2long

If the worst-case scenario occurred how would Timmm fare? Would he be okay? Would he be able to live a productive life if his worst fears in connection with his family were realized? Will Timmm be okay at the end of his days to have dedicated his life to looking after the family?

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Let the dead bury their own dead

by Hmmm in

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my (non-jw) grandmother is visiting from the southwest this week.

the usual family get-togethers are planned.

my ms younger brother was complaining to me about how unreasonable our (jw) mother is being.

yrs2long

This is a sterling example of the level of control that exists in dubdom. We all know very well why your brother is so reluctant to miss another meeting. Christ, we don't just have to please jehovah; there is the society, the brothers and sisters and don't forget the worldly onlookers. Only to walk away and come to the realization that the worldly folks never gave a damn. All the things I did not do so as to not stumble anyone; even matters of conscious were little ways in which to display your faith, or lack thereof. And I am glad that I was only a female in the organization and no one really epected me to reach out for anything.

I can recall a 'brother' who dumped his fiance on the day of their wedding because she didn't go out in service earlier that saturday due to last minute wedding arrangements. You wouldn't believe how many sisters rallied around him proclaiming his great spirituality and love for jehovah. The girl was utterly humiliated and devastated and it was only a few of us who proclaimed him blacklisted for life.

Thanks for the reminder of all we gave and gave and yet we could never really be sure if our service was acceptable to jehovah god.

edited because of the shocking number of typos

Edited by - yrs2long on 23 July 2002 1:1:23

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KM- Disfellowshipped Relative 8/02

by WildTurkey in

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edited by - wildturkey on 20 july 2002 13:59:47.

yrs2long

"For example, if the husband is disfellowshiped, his wife and children will not be comfortable with him conducting a family Bible study or leading in Bible reading and prayer."

Is this an example or a directive? What if they are comfortable with it? The society is telling the flock that they shouldn't be doing this.

Oh why didn't I see this stuff clearly before?

Also, this:

"After hearing a talk at a circuit assembly, a brother and his fleshly sister realized that they needed to make adjustments in the way they treated their mother, who lived elsewhere and who had been disfellowshipped for six years. Immediately after the assembly, the man called his mother. and after assuring her of their love, he explained that they could no longer talk to her unless there were important family matters requiring contact. Shortly thereafter his mother began attending meetings and was eventually reinstated.

Shouldn't 'love for jehovah' be the deciding factor for one's decision to come back? They are suggesting using this as a tool for getting the errant ones to return; the tool being, just as Gwyneth said, "emotional blackmail".

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Romance status

by Crystal in

just curious as to who is single and who is not on this board.i have been with my boyfriend going on 3 years now.

we just moved in together in feb.for the most part we get along great but he has some weird habits.he also thinks i spend too much time on this site(which i do...but heck i finally belong!!

)so its hard to relate to him on the subject.he thinks i should just forget about it.sometimes i think i might be better off with someone who has more or less been where i have.

yrs2long

I agree, WP. When I turned my back on the society, an exciting new world opened to me. Now, as for interacting, where are the instructions?

As for my being a tech nerd, I blame that on genetics. Always did enjoy breaking things with an eye for trying to fix them. Only that got me more spankings than chemistry and tool sets from my not-so progressive jw parents.

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Romance status

by Crystal in

just curious as to who is single and who is not on this board.i have been with my boyfriend going on 3 years now.

we just moved in together in feb.for the most part we get along great but he has some weird habits.he also thinks i spend too much time on this site(which i do...but heck i finally belong!!

)so its hard to relate to him on the subject.he thinks i should just forget about it.sometimes i think i might be better off with someone who has more or less been where i have.

yrs2long

newly single, very busy, athletic, insubmissive, childless, inactive with no plans of returning to jw faith female tech nerd on the west coast of the US.

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THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS THING SOMEBODY TOLD YOU

by minimus in

what's the most outrageous thing that you were personally told ,while in the organization??

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yrs2long

After years of abuse and many dramatic committee sessions and shortly after my desperate-to-become-an-elder husband had left, I came across an extensive psychological evaluation that basically said my husband utilized regression and projection as tools, had a lie scale of 70% according to MMPI, exhibited a lot of behavior that was in the pathological range and didn't have a clue as to what he was about. Thinking this information might help the elders to see what I was dealing with according to professionals (I couldn't put names to it all but I knew he was crazy), I cornered the PO in the back of the hall and asked him if he would read the report to gain additional understanding of my marital problems.

The elder glanced around then asked me,

"Sister ****, did your husband give you permission to show me that?"

Now what the hell did he think, I'd barely discovered it myself from my husband's usually locked-tight office just before he'd left. He wouldn't even glance at the material. They'd often said in committee that they were unable to do anything because my husband denied everything or sometimes said I was the one who hit him and that it was my word against his and yet the PO wouldn't even hazard a glance.

That was the last straw for me. I checked out.

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Newsweek Letter Writer Silenced

by silentlambs in

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the following email was sent to me today, if anyone would like to send and encouraging comment to loris i will be glad to forward it to her.

all she did was tell the truth and now she is facing sanction in the congregation.

so according to wt pr you are not sanctioned if you go to the police but you are sanctioned if you talk about it.

yrs2long

Good for you, Loris! You have disconnected from the matrix and are beginning to see what the organization is all about. It's too bad that interested persons and most dubs will never be able to get a true glimpse of the true picture.

The society is more vested in protecting its own image rather than in helping any victims. I can attest to this as an abused wife who wrote many letters to the society, my circuit overseer and anyone else who would listen. The only responses I received in return were admonitions to wait on Jehovah to reveal matters and clear them up and to not bring reproach on Jehovah's organization by calling the police on my abusive JW husband.

The org has an image to maintain and it will fight ruthlessly with anyone within who it perceives as a threat to that image.