Posts by zenpunk

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My B/F told me he's a J/W after months of dating!

by Funky_Diva_53_2000 in

hi, i'm 17 and i've just recently become a member of this website and i want you to know what has happened to me over the past months.back in sep/oct 2001 i started chatting to a 20 year old bloke via the internet and we developed a great friendship over the net.we would talk online for ages,text and phone each other loads,we sent each other photos of ourselves and he would often put his webcam on for me to see.before i knew it he played a great part in my everyday life...and i spent so much time chatting to him that my college work suffered a lot & i wasn't doing my coursework (i eventually got told to leave as i hadn't done loads of the assignments and stuff & had fallen behind).

after about 6 months we arranged to meet up (i made sure my parents were at home coz i know it's dodgy to meet people from the internet).anyway,he came round my house one evening in march and we got along soo well...he lives quite locally too which was good.our friendship then grew into a relationship and we started dating and going out together,i was sooo happy and i fell for him in a massive way & he said he felt the same way too.to me,he was a girls dream come true...he was kind,caring,fit,good-looking & gentle and i loved him to bits!,i still do,and i thought we'd be together forever.

something that i did find a bit strange though was i hadn't met his family yet or heard my boyfriend talk much about them.i would question him about his family but he seemed to get a bit funny about it and when i mentioned about meeting his family he said something along the lines of ''they're a bit strange,you might not like them'' (or something like that anyway).that got me thinking and i though prehaps they lived in a run-down place or something,or they wern't very nice people and i thought my b/f could be ashamed to let me meet them.i thought to myself to give him time & he'll see that i'm an understanding & nice person and hoped that he would soon come out and tell me what the problem was (thinking it was about what i've just mentioned).

zenpunk

Funky, I'm beggin you - please listen to us. I have seen this situation so many times, and not just from a distance, I have been the shoulder to cry on when the heartbreak comes. And, I know I don't know this man personally, but everything he has said through this message board I have heard before. You are in for an emotional roller coaster that will end with him deciding to stay a faithful Witness - guilt free in his own mind to then date and marry the perfect Witness "sister" that his family would like him to marry. Don't be fooled - he may truly love you at this very moment, but NEVER EVER underestimate the power this religion holds over its members. There will be a day that he will come to you with his decision and it will NOT BE YOU. Right now he may be reading my words and swear that it will never happen that way but it will. You are both so young. Time heals everything - you'd be so surprised. One of you has to be strong enough to end this and begin the healing process. If this man leaves the Witnesses for you, he will always feel guilt for it.

I can't stress this enough - if I wasn't at work I'd be crying - don't go down this painful path! If he truly loves you he will let you go rather than endure the future pain when he decides he must choose Jehovah.

53

My darn dog died

by LB in

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friends

i've had this cowdog for nearly 11 years now.

today she went out in the sun and got heatstroke and just didn't recover.

i gave her cpr and brought her back twice but she was too far gone.

zenpunk

You have my condolences (((LB))). Dogs are among our most loyal and true companions.

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Perfectionism is it controlling pain?

by Imbue in

i'm posting this writing exercise in response to dana's thread on self esteem.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=31816&site=3.

i have asked myself if perfectionism was a way for me to control criticism which is a source of pain.

zenpunk

Wow - I think you're completely right here. Well stated.

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Self esteem question (sorry, no boobs)

by safe4kids in

from what do you draw your self esteem, confidence, feelings of self worth etc.?.

over the years, i've drawn mine from being a good jw .

dana

zenpunk

I just love myself, that's all there is to it. Sometimes I'm not too happy with the decisions I make, but I always love myself regardless.

36

The Coca Cola Corporation

by invisible in

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friends

sitting this evening with friends chilling out as you do, most of them anti-global capitalists and coca cola came up into the conversation.. you know, we couldn't come up with anything that essentially this giant corporation was doing or has done that might affect adversely other people elsewhere.

all they produce is one bloody great drink that everyone loves.. anyone else heard of or have something on this corporation?.

here's cheers to coke!!.

zenpunk

Yea, they did 2 things:

1. New Coke

2. My Mother's cousin found a rat at the bottom of a Coke bottle in the 1950s. They got a money settlement and a free case of Coke every week for 10 years (back then that was a big deal). This really happened - this is not an urban legend.

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Dr. Spock and Spanking Kids

by dobby in

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friends

there have been several posts about the way witnesses discipline their kids lately, this prompts me to ask.... has anyone had the "dr spock quote" thrown in their face by a witness?

i have heard witnesses throw this about for years, but cannot honestly remember ever seeing it in print.

and i have never read any of dr. spock's books.

zenpunk

I remember once someone, after seeing my mother go through one of her disciplince rampages with me, asked my mom to read Dr. Spock. My mother got very angry, and just beat me some more when we got home. She was so thrilled when she found out that Dr. Spock was having problems with his daughter (I think that's what it was), she was telling everyone.

PS - I think there's got to be a balance with discipline. Maybe a rare spanking is needed in younger years - but the JWs take it too far. I was still getting "spanked" with a wooden spoon until it broke at the age of 16! That's when it stops being spanking and starts being abuse.

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Did the 1914 Generation Die Anyway?

by JanH in

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did the 1914 generation die anyway?

ver since the beginning of the watchtower movement, they have had some sort of deadline for god's activities.these activities could be the rapture of the saints (which jws today do not believe in), the destruction of "false religion", ie every other religious group, or the final end of this world.

earlier, these deadlines were explicit dates.

zenpunk

This information is very comprehensive - an excellent read. If I hadn't left the JWs already, I certainly would have been running for the exit in 1995.

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Bethelite speakers get Free rooms w/ hot tub

by Cappuccino OC in

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friends

i was just given the new book from the convention by a neighbor of mine and i was remembering that when i was in high school 85-89, we met the bethelite brother who was giving the special talk at our district assembly.

most of the families from my congregation commuted, 20 miles, to the assembly in fresno, ca.

a local elder stayed with his family in the hotel across the selland arena, convention.

zenpunk

Most likely there was nothing suspect here - except for the status of getting that glorious room. The Bethel Boy dynamic has always been that of a "boys club". Many of these guys felt they couldn't have a good time with sisters around, since they would have to be on their best behaviour. Plus, in a hotel room, if sisters went, the situation would have been considered suspect as a hot tub and a lack of supervision was probably involved.

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No Future

by Perfection Seeker in

i think it is sad how witnesses don't think future.

they don't save for a rainy day, don't plan for retirement, don't get higher education, alot are overweight, thinking why bother, don't worry about their health, etc.

and, have you notice, they almost try to get people to have low self esteem?

zenpunk

There was one family who moved in just as I was making my exit that were HUGE? I'm talking at least 400 lbs a piece, no joke! In fact, an inactive friend went to a meeting with me once just cause they couldn't believe it was true. They were wrong - it was true! I couldn't believe no one said a word, even from the standpoint that these two were putting their health and their kid's health in danger.

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President Bush and Corporate Responsibility

by invisible in

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friends

of the recent speech given by president bush and corporate responsibility, from the americans in here, how do you see this policy unfolding in the usa?

do you think this is a wise move for your president to be taking, or can you see it opening wide, a flood gate, can of worms so to speak?

what is the general consensus, word on the street about this issue?

zenpunk

Alls I know is that my 401K is on the downward sprial now!