The farm?????....what do they need a farm for, i thought they just printed books and stuff.
I take it they're into being self suffient and all!
Posts by Zep
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12Quake an bethel tours!
by Zep injust went over to witnet...dont know why?, but i got a little laugh out of the fact that theres a big ad at the top of the page for quake ii eh?!
of all games....if your've ever played it, you'll know its pretty violent, you could even say demonic!, atleast thats how the gb would put it i reckon!.some how i just cant imagine all these dubs ditting down playing this type of game....imagine it would be a big no no.. on anther topic, whats with these bethel tours they're always advertising over there abyway?, anyone been on one, i mean what would be the attraction....whatever happened to disney land?
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Quake an bethel tours!
by Zep injust went over to witnet...dont know why?, but i got a little laugh out of the fact that theres a big ad at the top of the page for quake ii eh?!
of all games....if your've ever played it, you'll know its pretty violent, you could even say demonic!, atleast thats how the gb would put it i reckon!.some how i just cant imagine all these dubs ditting down playing this type of game....imagine it would be a big no no.. on anther topic, whats with these bethel tours they're always advertising over there abyway?, anyone been on one, i mean what would be the attraction....whatever happened to disney land?
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Just went over to witnet...dont know why?, but i got a little laugh out of the fact that theres a big ad at the top of the page for QUAKE II eh?! of all games....If your've ever played it, you'll know its pretty violent, you could even say demonic!, atleast thats how the GB would put it i reckon!.Some how i just cant imagine all these dubs ditting down playing this type of game....imagine it would be a big NO NO.
On anther topic, whats with these Bethel tours they're always advertising over there abyway?, anyone been on one, i mean what would be the attraction....whatever happened to disney land? -
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You know you might have a problem when
by Zep in2 dubs come to your door and your've just been reading some stuff on 1975...and then you suddenly think they might be a sign from god or something.i laughed it off, but cant believe i thought it though....it was only for a sec that i held the thought, but jeez!???.
they were pushin these little pamphlets, you know the ones!
...the ones with all the cute animals on the cover and some kid in the middle of them playing with a lion or a bear!.
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I could have argued flat out with him frenchy, but it would have just been me flexing my intellectual ego...indulging in point scoring and nothing more, nothing would have been achieved.I could have instead asked a prying question, maybe that could have got him thinking a bit, but then again i just dont see it as my responsibility to de-covert someone since i'm very much an outsider in respect to JW's, i just didn't feel that gravity of responsibilty at that time...i was half asleep anyway.
The WT, in an article i read a little while back stated that people are responsible to warn others of things even if the person recieving the warning might resent it...They were obviously justifying their door to door work in saying this, but you can flip that argument around and apply it to yourself.
How serious do you take your own religion Frenchy, what do you and all the others here really think of it???
I mean, what kind of responibility do you feel personnally when you see a newbie come to KH...If i saw someone like myself being fed the WT i think i'd want to give them the otherside of the argument?.I have a friend in Melbourne currently, hes been taught that the generaton of 1914 wont pass away, last time i checked he felt he'd found the truth....he's moved but as soon as i find out his latest address i feel i should send him some articles!
Do you guys still go door to door here or what?, how do you deal with the fact that your pushing something that your dont neccessarily believe to someone who is possibly quite impressionable and easily lead? -
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JW prophets or not!!
by Zep inwell they use to claim they were...of course now they dont, at least not in so many words.their very name itself however, implies that they speak for jehovah.but if its the case as they claim, that they are not his prophets & do not neccessarily speak for him then they have no right to the name "jehovah witnesses"....furthermore, if they are not prophets then how can they claim that rev11:3-4 is referring to them....pg164 of revelation..grand climax book.here it says that "my 2 witnesses shall prophesy".....but since they are not prophets then how can they prophesy....how can god cause them to prophesy?.
its all games obviously...an attempt to avoid the label "false prophet" but in the process of doing so they just end up looking even more stupid!....
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Well they use to claim they were...of course now they dont, at least not in so many words.Their very name itself however, implies that they speak for Jehovah.But if its the case as they claim, that they are not his prophets & do not neccessarily speak for him then they have no right to the name "jehovah witnesses"....Furthermore, if they are not prophets then how can they claim that Rev11:3-4 is referring to them....pg164 of revelation..grand climax book.Here it says that "my 2 witnesses shall PROPHESY".....but since they are not Prophets then how can they prophesy....how can God cause them to prophesy?
Its all games obviously...an attempt to avoid the label "false prophet" but in the process of doing so they just end up looking even more stupid!.... -
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You know you might have a problem when
by Zep in2 dubs come to your door and your've just been reading some stuff on 1975...and then you suddenly think they might be a sign from god or something.i laughed it off, but cant believe i thought it though....it was only for a sec that i held the thought, but jeez!???.
they were pushin these little pamphlets, you know the ones!
...the ones with all the cute animals on the cover and some kid in the middle of them playing with a lion or a bear!.
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I do write some rubbish...Actually,I'm pretty normal in real life believe it or not Waiting.But this is the NET...i can afford to be stupid!, thats how i look at it!
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You know you might have a problem when
by Zep in2 dubs come to your door and your've just been reading some stuff on 1975...and then you suddenly think they might be a sign from god or something.i laughed it off, but cant believe i thought it though....it was only for a sec that i held the thought, but jeez!???.
they were pushin these little pamphlets, you know the ones!
...the ones with all the cute animals on the cover and some kid in the middle of them playing with a lion or a bear!.
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2 dubs come to your door and your've just been reading some stuff on 1975...and then you suddenly think they might be a sign from God or something.I laughed it off, but cant believe i thought it though....it was only for a sec that i held the thought, but jeez!???
They were pushin these little pamphlets, you know the ones! ...the ones with all the cute animals on the cover and some kid in the middle of them playing with a lion or a bear!
I could have argued with the poor guy, but he was too meek and polite...and i dont think i'd get any pleasure out of disrupting his faith...he seemed pretty timid, very effeminate...i just joked him a little and let him go! -
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i heard Paul was a homosexual....thats what that rev Spong reckons anyway...hes that liberal catholic priest who ordained gays!
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Wolfsong
by Seven in[url] http://205.178.160.247/artwork/scripts/artofwolves/wolves-individual.cfm?artworkid=157[/url]
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Solid, I thought you were trying to conceal your ID....thought you might have still an active dub and dont want the thought police sussin' you out!?, figuring out who you are!
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Forget the Dalai LAma
by Zep inforget that dalai lma crap(that was bs i cant belive i wrote all that stuff) heres the down to earth version.
well, my story!.
i'm not a jw....i read from age 15 to say 21 all the watchtowers and stuff...and was pretty well versed in it...knew all the basics,thought that 1914 stuff was pretty cool, i was amazed when i first read that and alll that revelation and babaylon the great, i thought jw had a lot of answers at times but had latent questions in the back of me head.
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Forget that dalai lma crap(that was BS i cant belive i wrote all that stuff) heres the down to earth version
Well, My story!
I'm not a JW....I read from age 15 to say 21 all the watchtowers and stuff...and was pretty well versed in it...knew all the basics,thought that 1914 stuff was pretty cool, i was amazed when i first read that and alll that Revelation and Babaylon the Great, i thought JW had a lot of answers at times but had latent Questions in the back of me head. I went to a few meetings, they just felt weird, i felt outa place, i didn't sing any songs that for sure...did a bible study, that was silly...because we just read one of there books and i already knew the stuff by then...i read the books within weeks but the bible study went for 4 months, i just didn't know how to tell the guy that the study was BS...so i just asked Questions anyway, we'd debate, i gave him a read hard time....asked one really curly question he had to go away to the Elders and they just fobbed me off with a patronizing answer.I liked the guy who took me for the study BTW...i think hes better off being a JW than the way he was before, was a real messed up waster.....Anyway i must have been asking too many questions cause he wanted to bring a guy called an OVERSEER round, i didn't what they were then...maybe they wanted to suss me out or something cause i asked too much???? i dont know!?.Anyway it culminated with when we had an argument, i say "this stuff just doesnt click"...and he got stuck into me about not going to meeting so how would i Know...so i said"i dont go cause it dont click"...the i said "i dont want to do this Bible study anymore...yeah thats right" i Really pissed him off when i said that....you should have seen the look on his face as he left, it hit him out of the blue, he must have been thinkin satan got into my head!!!!!
Thos days were real weird, i remember he came in at the start of the study and just started praying...i just looked at him...i couldn't figure it out.And i remeber when i found out that this lady i use to see around when i was a kid(she use to come around to selling magazines stinking of Garlic) was one of the annointed....i gave him a real hard time about that and how she knew and stuff, i made a joke of it .....man, i dont know.Anyway my connection ended there with JW's, i did read a lot of there stuff and it sort of coloured my thinking...i just didn't know what to think at the time, i thought "i'll just study there stuff later in life"...it did have an impact on my thinking, more than i'd like to admitt probably! but i'm no way like you guys! it just one of those things!
Anyway, last year..i get this call from a friend and he's saying how he's in with JW's and that...cause he rembers i was studying the stuff before ( i'm 27 now)and he's saying "yeah it definitly the truth and he's getting baptized and gettin married cause he cant live in sin with his Girl friend.....and he asks me what i think of it all and i say real diplomatically.."i dont know, if i was a christain thats what i'd probably be"...i really didn't have a clue what to think of 'em, still thought they had some good points and that 1914 stuff seemed pretty good from memory....never could understand the blood issue.Anyway he got me thinking on the issue, and i started reading a little of their stuff again and then stop...I cruise into h20 as a Lark, just a peek, i thought it was a JW board...and the first thing i find out is that "this generation" has changed...incidentally the friend was talking to last year, has no idea they have changed it, they've taught him the old stuff (FIGURE THAT??????????)he thinks the generation of 1914 not going to pass away...i told him not to get his hopes up moreorless by saying that it could be another 20 years and he just says "yeah BUT...i dont think so, i think its goin to happen in the next few but after 2000 just to screw up all the idiots who thinks its going to happen then"
So for the next 4 months i just hang out at H20...not serious, just casually reading stuff...i post crap!nonsense stuff, not really going anywhere with it...but now i've got sucked into it in the last 2 months, in analysing all this stuff....i finding it sort of interesting, i want to know how wrong JWs really are, cause i sort of believed it when i was young, so i'm just learning...but dont know, a few months ago was gunna go to KH to check it out again, now i just feel "whats the point"???????? still might go though...dont know why, dont know what i'm thinking on that point????? considering i'm pretty much of the opinion its all bullshit pretty much? ....i'm one of the new breed of people out there who throught the NET are gunna find out that JW's arn't all they crack themselves up to be!--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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I don't like the drugs, but the drugs like me?
by Pathofthorns inis it just me, or is there an unusually high number of young ones in the truth smoking and doing drugs like ecstasy and dope?.
is it that these people are doing this out of rebellion or simply that they like to live in a fantasy world?.
i've talked to a number who seem to think that they will live a double life for a while, then come back in five years "because they know its the truth".
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Drugs are everywhere...its a culture thing, to want to be normal...there a lot of peer presure when your young to take drugs.....Sometimes i'd smoke dope, not cause i wanted to but because i felt i had to cause everyone else was doing it...and i mean everyone smokes the stuff where i am, it just not spoken of.
I met a JW, though i didn't know he was a JW at the time... he was a speed freak, shot up all the time....dont know if thats got anything to do with JW or not...doubt it, he seemed like everyone else...he just shot up!.A friend told me of a conversation he had with him about the end of the world....he said his feeling is that it was going to happen within the next few years...that was in 93.That didn't really make him unsual, we all use to talk like that...i use to say that the world was going eat itself with 10...tha was 10 years ago, and the people i said it to would agree with me.My Generation is/was pretty pessimistic.
Most people i know these days who smoke dope, do it cause they like(sort of)....when your a teenager theres more pressure to do it, more at stake for sure!