It is clear to me that they believe they are from God, his prophets, his chosen, use whatever words you like, but thats the claim.Its also obvious that they have made many many false predictions while virtually claiming to be of God.Hence, they are basically full of it and have no credibility, or should have none anyway.
When confronted with these false predictions, when it suits them, they then seem to claim merely to be expressing an opinion, and not inspired or prophets...but fallible, and they have used terms like "watchman" etc...and "new light".....its all just jargon, anyone can see through it!.Its makes them in my mind look even more stupid than their false prophecies already have, they're basically trying to deny the obvious!.
What is the biblical judgment for some one guilty of false prophecy????....you could to deuteronomy and say they deserve to die, doesn't really matter to me!.Its very simple in my mind, a rock could understand it, someone who makes predictions in the name of God and they dont happen, cannot be from God and deserves no attention...God can do with 'em what he likes after that!
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by Zep inwell they use to claim they were...of course now they dont, at least not in so many words.their very name itself however, implies that they speak for jehovah.but if its the case as they claim, that they are not his prophets & do not neccessarily speak for him then they have no right to the name "jehovah witnesses"....furthermore, if they are not prophets then how can they claim that rev11:3-4 is referring to them....pg164 of revelation..grand climax book.here it says that "my 2 witnesses shall prophesy".....but since they are not prophets then how can they prophesy....how can god cause them to prophesy?.
its all games obviously...an attempt to avoid the label "false prophet" but in the process of doing so they just end up looking even more stupid!....
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who's the biggest nutbag?
by Zep injoseph smith or rutherford??????.
i mean rutherford wrote some weird stuff and lots of it, i personnally find his writings hilarious..."the list" is a laugh a minute!..
but surely ol' rutherford never wrote something as weird as the quote below by joseph smith the mormon prophet?.
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Joseph smith or Rutherford??????
I mean Rutherford wrote some weird stuff and lots of it, i personnally find his writings hilarious..."THe LIST" is a laugh a minute!.
But surely ol' Rutherford never wrote something as weird as the quote below by Joseph Smith the Mormon prophet?1837: "Inhabitants of the Moon are more of a uniform size than the inhabitants of the Earth, being about 6 feet in height. They dress very much like the Quaker Style & and quite general in Style, or the one fashion of dress. They live to be very old; coming generally near a thousand years. This is the description of them as given by Joseph Smith the Seer.
Joseph Smith = 1....Rutherford = zip
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From H20- "The Ultimate Rude Display"
by Dubby ini found this at the freeminds site.
it's a post from h20 that i just had to post.. .
posted by lovesdubs [lovesdubs] on july 02, 2000 at 16:55:22 {mw75jfstgk0hi4vk0miqsqbw4hhnmw}:.
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Yeah i sure remember readin' that one dubby...
The worst the story i heard though was on TV down here bout maybe 8yrs ago...i didn't really grasp the full reality of it at the time, but this lady was on TV (she was 40-50) and she'd lost her kid to the blood policy.Apparently...when she was in the hospital all thes JW's were hounding her...telling her not to take the blood option else you'll loose your inheritance and stuff...which is kinda the last things you'd be saying someone in that situation really(if you weren't a dub)...she was obviously quite impressionable and went along with the group and lost her kid.She obvioulsy regretted it though and was DF'ed at the time.She was the most softly spoken person and was really cut up inside, you could tell. put on a brave face though....but she looked like she was just resigned to a hopeless situation.She'd virually lost everything...kid,faith,friends...everything! -
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Giger is dark stuff Seven.I cant remember which one E.L.P was?....i got a book of his and its half falling to pieces now and my servers too slow so i cant download the main site anyway.
I like his black ink drawings best....airbrush stuff is great but you can more feel out of 'em i think.
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LOVE THIS QUOTE
by Zep in"if you find that you are stumbled or are offended about something being taught in god's.
organization, or some adjustments being made, keep this in mind: god has put enough in the.
bible to provide a complete foundation for faith.
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In one fell swoop, a perceived unrepentant JW's has lost family, friends, standing with God, standing in his community, perhaps his employment, security, reputation, value of being - and is looking towards the Second Death at Armageddon.
>>YIKES!!!!...that 'bout says it all eh!.I mean, Whatever happened to the concept of "mercy"!....
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Quake an bethel tours!
by Zep injust went over to witnet...dont know why?, but i got a little laugh out of the fact that theres a big ad at the top of the page for quake ii eh?!
of all games....if your've ever played it, you'll know its pretty violent, you could even say demonic!, atleast thats how the gb would put it i reckon!.some how i just cant imagine all these dubs ditting down playing this type of game....imagine it would be a big no no.. on anther topic, whats with these bethel tours they're always advertising over there abyway?, anyone been on one, i mean what would be the attraction....whatever happened to disney land?
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I guess going to marvel at some new printing presses would look odd to outsiders, huh?
>>You got that Waiting....but it doesn't matter, maybe in another 400 years Bethel will have the same aura as Mecca eh!
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Quake an bethel tours!
by Zep injust went over to witnet...dont know why?, but i got a little laugh out of the fact that theres a big ad at the top of the page for quake ii eh?!
of all games....if your've ever played it, you'll know its pretty violent, you could even say demonic!, atleast thats how the gb would put it i reckon!.some how i just cant imagine all these dubs ditting down playing this type of game....imagine it would be a big no no.. on anther topic, whats with these bethel tours they're always advertising over there abyway?, anyone been on one, i mean what would be the attraction....whatever happened to disney land?
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Quake III...give it a rest, from what i've seen Unreal tournament blows that stuff away!..but what would i know, i just a crappy AMD 300 with 825MB of HD space...runs hopeless!
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You know you might have a problem when
by Zep in2 dubs come to your door and your've just been reading some stuff on 1975...and then you suddenly think they might be a sign from god or something.i laughed it off, but cant believe i thought it though....it was only for a sec that i held the thought, but jeez!???.
they were pushin these little pamphlets, you know the ones!
...the ones with all the cute animals on the cover and some kid in the middle of them playing with a lion or a bear!.
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It just annoyed me after he came the door....i would get no pleasure out of trying to break the guy.But since i've had time to think about it somemore, it really annoys me that he's out there pushing this stuff to people like me.....and some are going to buy it because they dont know any better, and haven't read the otherside.This WT stuff is a mess.
What Do you actually get anything out of going to meetings Waiting anyway?, i suppose you have the social side of it, but do you beleive any of their stuff...do you sit there and twiddle your thumbs everytime the guy up the front starts talking.I suppose you have the big DF hanging over your head, and thats whats keeping you there, that and the fact that its been a habit for much ofyour life???...or am i wrong, do you actually get something out of it?.I think if i sat in a KH now, i'd get really pi**ed off real quick!
You know, i actually defended the WT in a few posts when i first came on to h20...why??? i have no idea.All this reading so called "apostate" literature is really starting to annoy me big time, especially all the stuff about the false prophecies....the idea that they're out there preaching some altered version of history to people like me is really annoying!So anyway, how did your legal situation work out....i cant imagine a worse situation being squeezed between the society and a bunch of lawyers at the momment....must have been reeeeaaaallll bad.My father has dealing with lawyers at the moment, they charge through the nose, it cost him 13$ just to ring up and confirm an appointment....can you believe that!