Posts by zev

In the Indiana Jones Movies, the one that involved finding the "cup of Christ, just before choosing the "cup" the old kodger, protector of the cup tells Indiana to, "choose wisely".

The point? Choose the threads to read and respond to wisely. Not all are worth clicking the mouse button to read. Some are down right nasty. I practice this method. I look at the first couple of lines and if it does'nt appeal to me, I move on. Those worthy of my comments, like this one get my attention. You are a very kind and caring person. I always enjoy your comments here and in the chat. Just be yourself Wendy, its whom we've come to know and love.

"post edited for spelling, though I don't know why, I can't even spell"
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zev
Sitting on the Wrong Side of the Fence Class

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Strewth Sheila, It's OK To Have A Grope Ain't It?

by Englishman in

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can someone please tell me exactly what constitutes a df'ing offence?.

i recently read a post where someone said that they were df'd for committing "adultery in the heart", someone else for gambling, someone else for smoking etc etc.

it's all very puzzling, back in the 60's the wtbts had a down on "petting and necking" but it wasn't df'able.

zev

englishman, whats the definition of strewth?
thats a new one, to me anyways..

JanH

DFing offenses fall into two main categories: One is what the WTS has said is a DFing offense. The other is whatever the local elders want to DF you for.

Isn't that the truth!

Dark Clouds

another difference that i remember is that growing up in a spanish speaking congregation we were not allowed to have any type of beards of gotees, mustaches were the extent of facial hair. Yet i knew brothers in the english speaking ones that did have beards and these were tolerated. in the spanish hall we would have been reproved for imitating the world, or trying to look like jesus. . .

Its taboo here too. tryed it myself. forget it. Here is a case where its whats NOT said in the bible thats made into an unwritten "LAW". No biblical basis for fact at all. In thinking back, when i started to grow one, i did MUCH research, even before i had the computer, and came up empty. What I did find out is that its a localized issue. Whatever the "local" boyz think is what goes. But no matter where you are, or where your from, grow a beard in the "truth" and you'll be scorned, ridiculed and told, hope to see you back soon. oh, and you wont be allowed the priveledge to "serve" I know. The cold hearted bastards did it to me. I don't have one now, but i plan to as....

anglise said

Talking of beards etc has anyone noticed how many brothers acquire beards/moustaches when they step down or drop out.
I have often wondered if this is the equivalent of a finger sign to the borg. Maybe this is more like this in the UK where facial hair is a definite NO NO.

Its a definite NO NO in the states too.

Again, NO Biblical Evidience for basis in FACT.
What else would you expect from the "BORG".

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family matters

by zev in

i've decide to share with y'all a letter i wrote to my sister.

our relationship has been strained of late, and i needed to get a start to fixing that.

we lost 2 family members to death in the last week, and it made me realize how far we have grown apart over the years.

zev

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Hey check out this riddle

by bigboi in

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i wasn't sure where to post this so i put on the main board.. there are two guys standing at a fork in the road leading to the .

villages of truth and lies respectively.

in the village of truth ppl .

zev

i wouldnt ask anything. i'd turn around and go home

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Praise Jehovah For His Great Deeds! May 15 2001 WT

by ISP in

praise jehovah for his great deeds!

may 15 2001 wt.

page 12. thousands thronging to true worship (sub-heading).

zev

Francoise said: Who gives a big hairy rat's ass? The number of Hindus increases ten times that much with absolutely ZERO time spent in door to door work. All they have to do is have babies. So the Hindus out-grow the JWs, and all the Hindus have to do is be still and grow.

Last time i checked, remaining still while in the coital position never produced an offspring.

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family matters

by zev in

i've decide to share with y'all a letter i wrote to my sister.

our relationship has been strained of late, and i needed to get a start to fixing that.

we lost 2 family members to death in the last week, and it made me realize how far we have grown apart over the years.

zev

the reason
i sent out that email to everyone was to get a start on getting it all
together. a first step, i hope in the right direction.
What was that about? ( I'm nosy ) Are you setting up a family get-together?.

I sent an email to everyone in the family to get accurate phone numbers and addresss and vital information that I just didn't have.
People move, change numbers and stuff all the time and sometimes the "network" isn't as efficiant as i would like it.

I'll let you know what happens. As of yet, no reply, but thats ok.

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family matters

by zev in

i've decide to share with y'all a letter i wrote to my sister.

our relationship has been strained of late, and i needed to get a start to fixing that.

we lost 2 family members to death in the last week, and it made me realize how far we have grown apart over the years.

zev

I've decide to share with y'all a letter i wrote to my sister. Our relationship has been strained of late, and I needed to get a start to fixing that. We lost 2 family members to death in the last week, and it made me realize how far we have grown apart over the years. Here goes....
{Names changed to protect the innocent}{namely, me }

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i didn't realize i "hadn't been told things. untill this past weekend. mom dropped that bomb on me. so i didnt know what was what, [like i thought i DID] and decided that we will have to clear our own air. these past few weeks have made me realize some things. yes, i am NOT perfect, never claimed to be. and it wasn't so much the passing of {a relative},
it was the passing of {another reletive}. i've probably seen him more than you have beeing in the same business that he was and i am.
seen him a couple of times over the years, untill he moved permently out to {a west coast state}. {forgive my bad spelling please}
it got me to thinking that our whole family, myself included, as well as those not so close to our family, like {an aunt} and such, has some sort of hang up about staying in touch with each other. especially their own brothers and sisters. now i dont know exactly why, and i dont mean the kind of staying in touch that has all the family gossip involved, cause i don't go for that stuff, and i think you already know that. just the regular stuff. and yes i
am guilty of that. blood is blood. and we should never forget our
family, brothers, sisters mothers, fathers, ect. sitting down at that table yesterday, made me realize for the first time how much our family has grown over the years. it shocked me actually. i leaned over and said to {my borg controlled wife}, dang,i have a huge family. first time for everything i guess. I am more open minded now than i ever have been, the years of seeing certain things have done that to me. changes and experience have changed me. I make no excuses. all i can say is i'm sorry. i have screwed up. the reason
i sent out that email to everyone was to get a start on getting it all
together. a first step, i hope in the right direction.
i will listen. obviously, i don't know all the details, or i didnt ask the right questions. either way information was kept from me. i dont know why. but we can resolve that together.

maybe i make it sound worse than it really is. but not knowing or speaking to you about it and hearing everything 3rd hand is and was the wrong thing for me to form opinions with.

i guess she didn't. you can fill me in with what you want me to know. i'm comfortable with that, and as i've learned over the years, i'll keep whatever is said between us exactly as that, between us. period.

i would NEVER do that. i wasn't and never have been into making a scene with my family. i do have other concerns though that DO NOT involve you. i struggled with that "concern" for the whole day yesterday and managed to be civil. we'll talk about that another time.

Lets not wait till things like that happen to see each other again. i know its hard, we all have our own lives, and soon i imagine i'll have a rug rat around her that {my borg controlled wife, soon to be a grandma} will be drooling over all the time, but lets not let this happen anymore, ok?

now.....
a change in subject for just a minute. i don't know quite how to say this, because I cannot tell anyone, including mom and dad. and especially {MBCW}. so this part is for email only. I cannot discuss this in ear shot of anyone. its very important. I have made discoveries. I have had questions and doubts for many years. this has to do with jw's. I was at one time many years ago an ministerial servant {ms} I stepped down, because of what exactly I couldn't say. something's bothered me. I didn't have the tools I have now,
mainly the internet and search tools and w.t. cd roms with the pubs on them. until a few months, maybe 6 in all, I refused to read certain material because the "org." says watch out for it, the internet is so dangerous. nothing like telling someone, not to look at some thing, to make them go and bloody well look. so I did. and what I'm finding out is not good. in fact its downright depressing. I'll give you one site to look at, its the reason I even started to look into what I have believed in all these years with out question. Reports of what i found on this site started me on a campaign for more knowledge. its damn scary.

www.silentlambs.org

don't be to shocked at what you see, just a warning. its heart breaking really. after reading about this, I started delving deeper. I bought a book written by a former
governing body member who was axed for eating with a disassociated business partner. another true life experience, that I wish you could read, but is not available on the net, yet. I started building a web site about all this, like so many others out there. and I stopped for lack of time and information. for the time being. you may be bored with this stuff, but I have to talk to somebody, I cant keep this locked in me forever. each day for me is a roller coaster of emotions, that you cant begin to imagine for me. and I cannot share this knowledge with anyone or it will destroy my
relationship with friends, and my immediate family. again, I'm not offering excuses here, I'm just giving you a small look into what has been going on with me. and I haven't even told you the good stuff, the details of cover-ups and deception, it would blow you away. anyways, look at that site, look at every page. please tell me what you think.
that's all for now. please keep in touch, and let me know when you home at night, I'd love to call and chat with you soon.

Love,
Your Brother Zev

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zev
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