Posts by czarofmischief

78

intolerance

by teejay in

jw
friends

generally speaking, are ex-jws as intolerant as jws?

czarofmischief

Many ex-JWs still carry a lot of negative emotions from their life as a Dub. For them, differentiating between JWs and the JW religion can be hard.

I had forgotten that not everyone here knows that. The blunt fact is that for many dubs, there IS no difference between them and their religion. That's why it hurts so freaking bad. That's why we're all half mad and lash out at different targets. I know for a deep inner truth that most of my rage is directed at my helplessness throughout the JC / reinstatement attempt fiasco. How three men who didn't know me could ruin my life, take away my friends, ignore my letters... all over nothing. Hence my deep and abiding rage; especially at those who just won't listen... I can't see my experience as being THAT atypical. In fact, I know it isn't. Hmm.. odd place to suddenly understand a huge part of myself; but I guess that's what this board is for. My loathing for what I think are meaningless rules, my detestation of those I consider disloyal to my nation, my longing for purity of emotion.

Do you know that from my JC until just recently I was unable to cry. Not just not sad, physically and totally unable to cry? Even under distress. Couldn't do it. Can't heal if you can't cry... weird... baby steps, baby steps...

CZAR

78

intolerance

by teejay in

jw
friends

generally speaking, are ex-jws as intolerant as jws?

czarofmischief

I have a beagle. She's not smart. She's a little paranoid and is scared of the dark. She also gets nightmares. I think she was traumatized at the shelter... wait, what were we talking about??? okay...

I think that believers around here have to defend their positions more actively than others - the cynicism and the hurt from dubland is real. When a believer's position is defensible, you wind up with respected people like mouthy and littletoe. When a believer's position is indefensible, you wind up with You "Clay Pigeon" Know and E "Lyndon LaRouche's Catamite" Watchman type figures who provide hours of fun for the whole family.

Tolerance doesn't enter into it - some people are born to be made fun of...

CZAR

123

BEWARE! This is an Apostate site!!

by laraby in

jw
friends

i'm sure 99% of you know this already, but i'm warning whoever visits here and doesn't know.. .

if any of you still read god's word, i ask you to read eze.

33:11 & prov.

czarofmischief

Ya know, the association with apostates on this site could explain why my meeting attendance has suffered lately... You sneaky bastids! How dare you get my spiritual food all moldy?

CZAR

72

Positive proof that Watchman & those who post on his forum are LOONEY.

by Schizm in

jw
friends

http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/viewtopic.php?t=1084&sid=584fa2df178b17b22f245bf648ff3e66

modern day "garden of eden" ?

good day brothers and sisters: .

czarofmischief

not scared of e=-watchman. He can bring it. He's a pussy.

Burn in hell, Norman Steele and co. I am a GOD compared to you. I am NIMROD revealed! I am at LEAST as crazy as you and probably more so, because I am going to Iraq to fight for what I believe in and all you can do, pussy, is bully widows and orphans.

I am NIMROD and I am going to reclaim my beloved Babylon. I am a GOD, next to your pitiful JEHOVAH... and I will be husband to all of your widows and father to all your orphans, the GOD your failed JEHOVAH could never be. They wanted a God, all they needed was a man. Just one man. Any man. And what they got was empty promises and failed predictions of paradise. And a whole barrel load of empty threats.

NORMAN STEELE YOU WILL BURN FOR THIS! JIM WELLS! YOU WILL BURN!

CZAR

7

Never mind WMD ... Halliburton can't find their own stuff !

by Simon in

.

i can't believe that the us people put up with this pantomime!.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6590045/.

czarofmischief

Hey.

There's a fair bit of stuff that Starbucks can't account for... heh heh heh... it's right wing welfare... har har har...

CZAR

80

Can someone explain to me the story of the tower of Babel?

by tippysock in

in genisis 11:6 jehovah appears to be worried that mankind will be able to do anything they desire.

did jehovah scatter men and use different languages as a controlling measure to make us dependent on him?

what happened to freewill?

czarofmischief

Oh, that's just me beiung peverse

I suppose I should expect that from the degenerate Left.

Love,

CZAR

45

SCHOLAR 'talk' to Ray about Carl Olof Jonsson

by one in

jw
friends

i just received a long email from ray,

i reprint what an scholars wrote to ray

" i became aware of the work of carl olof jonsson by coming across his work posted on the net entitled "a review of rolf furuli: persian chronology and the length of the babylonian exile of the jews.

czarofmischief

Rome did NOT rule "without competition." Ever hear of Parthia? Kicked Rome's ass around for a while. Carthage? Fell eventually, but it came close to crushing them a couple of times.

Sure Rome had great press, and some serious advantages, but it FELL and it only ruled a fourth of the earth to begin with. Ghenghis Khan ruled more. GREAT BRITAIN ruled more. And what caused mighty Rome to fall? Some Germans with pickaxes, braids, and bad breath!

Not to mention the centuries that passed when Rome ruled in competition with Constantinople. In essence, competing against itself.

Plus there is this myth that the "pax Romana" was a peaceful time. There were ALWAYS little wars going on somewhere? The Jugurthine war? The Rebellion of Judea? Not to mention civil wars every fifty years or so.

Rome did not rule as long as Egypt, as harshly as Assyria, as sweepingly as Alexander, or as permenently as the Chinese. The Aztecs and the Mayans were just irritating flyspecks on the eyebulb of prophecy, huh?

Stop it. The prophecy of the four beasts was directed at the GREEK descendants of the GREEK empire that conquered Judea and their Persian forefathers. The little horn that became mighty was picturing one of the greasers the Maccabees waxed. JUST STOP IT! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU!

CZAR

80

Can someone explain to me the story of the tower of Babel?

by tippysock in

in genisis 11:6 jehovah appears to be worried that mankind will be able to do anything they desire.

did jehovah scatter men and use different languages as a controlling measure to make us dependent on him?

what happened to freewill?

czarofmischief

The original story if hogwash in its own right, it doesn't need apocraphal hogwash to make it hogwash.

I know. BUT - you are making assumptions about how people would behave if language suddenly scrambled itself, inexplicably and overnight. I say that it wouldn't be inconsisten with human nature to split off and go their seperate ways, especially in light of the fact that people today split along language lines. I also wanted to point out that Nimrod's empire, according to the mythology surrounding it, was not as tightly woven as the Roman Empire. He had rivals in power; who could easily have taken advantage of a sudden split to chant "Let us rebel, against NIMROD."

You are an odd one to suddenly insist on canonical sources.

The story is patently hogwash, I concur. But it is narratively consistent.

CZAR

80

Can someone explain to me the story of the tower of Babel?

by tippysock in

in genisis 11:6 jehovah appears to be worried that mankind will be able to do anything they desire.

did jehovah scatter men and use different languages as a controlling measure to make us dependent on him?

what happened to freewill?

czarofmischief

Then god plays silly buggers and Bert and Fred speak different languages. But they still know each other.

Ah. But the POINT of me bringing up the extra-biblical sources was to indicate that the story is not inherently self-contradictory. It was to indicate that Nimrod's empire, mythical as I agree it was, was held together by the thinnest of threads to begin with - as can be seen by the "fact" that he was murdered. Hence, any building projects undertaken by his empire were probably put on immediate hold in the ensuing power struggle following the language "silly buggers".

Impossible or unlikely or mythical as it may be - it is not narratively contradictory to state that a language separation would lead to the disintegration of a civilization. It is the man's obligation to stick his boneration in the woman's separation... har har har...

Wurgh, I'm a little blitzed meself, my friends...

CZAR

80

Can someone explain to me the story of the tower of Babel?

by tippysock in

in genisis 11:6 jehovah appears to be worried that mankind will be able to do anything they desire.

did jehovah scatter men and use different languages as a controlling measure to make us dependent on him?

what happened to freewill?

czarofmischief

His power, if he was indeed a tyrant, was built on POWER not language, and typically this power would be maintained through relationships.

I have to disagree with you there. Language is a more powerful unifier than threat of force. Just look at the rise of nationalism in the past century or so - mostly fueled by linguistic divisions and a desire to imitate Napoleon's wonderful new national army. Even our modern definitions of national groups or ethnic groups tend to revolve around what language we speak.

Extra-biblical tradition also states that Nimrod was murdered. Besides, if Nimrod's allies saw a chance to build their own power bases built on language; wouldn't they have seized it? If the guy's power base was hanging by a thread anyway, maybe a language change was all he needed to get overthrown.

As far as it being literal, no, I don't really believe it. I think it is Masonic code... har har har...

CZAR