i find the topic of the 1975 end of the world scenario facinating, especially since i never lived through it.
do you old schoolers ever feel concerned that people will one day forget about what really went down?
with whitewashed tripe like the 'proclaimers' book informing dubs that it was just the false expectations of over enthusiastic apostates, are you at all concerned that the legacy of bullshit that is 1975 will be a forgotten moment in history blamed on you instead where the blame really belongs?
Do any of you have a scan of the front page of that Watchtower with the train falling into the 1975 precipice?
I think you're talking about the scan below, but it's about 1914, not 1975. If anyone has a similar pic for 1975 please please share...
a few minutes later....
OMG, now I see the light. Look at this picture. You won't believe it. This is the page 15 of same mag as the above... Wow!
Observador.
words cannot describe what i am feeling right now, but what else have i got?.
so let's start with euphoric.. today i ran into an old jw friend.
we were teens in the troof together, neighboring congregations.
Merry,
the more like him, the merrier. ;)
Observador.
it's been roughly ten years since the change in the understanding of the generation was printed in a november watchtower.. while i won't discuss here what everyone already knows about this change, and the effects it had on many people, questions have to be asked.. what happens next for the watchtower society?
where is the leadership?.
in what direction are they headed?.
2014 in my radar screen!
i find the topic of the 1975 end of the world scenario facinating, especially since i never lived through it.
do you old schoolers ever feel concerned that people will one day forget about what really went down?
with whitewashed tripe like the 'proclaimers' book informing dubs that it was just the false expectations of over enthusiastic apostates, are you at all concerned that the legacy of bullshit that is 1975 will be a forgotten moment in history blamed on you instead where the blame really belongs?
Let me tell you a little story.
In 1975 I was 9 years old. My parents were introduced to the "troof" around 1973 by an elder who lived in the area. This elder used to say "XXXX, something serious may happen in 1975; something could happen; the society is saying that... bla bla bla...". With this talk, he and his wife were able to drag my parents into the cult.
My mother still remembered that clearly up to about 3 years ago.
Now, that elder was already old in 1973. My mother tells us that that man used to be terribly affraid of anything that could be the beginning of the big A. Example: if there was a heavy rain with ligthning and thunder he would go inside his dorm and would pray, pray and continue praying very hard for Jehovah to protect him. He was affraid to death of dying in the big A. This all was confided to my mother by his wife.
My mother recently visited this couple in the state where she's from and, lo and behold, she was told the man died in 2002. Now, if you ask his wife about 1975 and how she helped bring my parents into that web of lies and illusion, I bet she won't remember. If I press my mother now a little, I bet she won't remember any of that either.
1975 was, for me, one of the first things I rechecked when I lost my faith in the ORG. I think if it wasn't for the Internet, 1975 would go down as one of things invented by "some" too eager to see "Jehovah's promises", as was 1914, 1922, etc. etc. Because of the Net, there are quite a few people writing about their experiences related to 1975 and, so, it can't be easely forgotten.
Observador.
some of you may remember me, seeker4, from several hundred posts 3 to 6 years ago.
i recognize some of the names in today's forums, and maybe some of you remember me.
don't confuse me with seeker - i'm s4.
I just want to say a couple of things:
I am not a lawyer and, most likely, the other poster must have given you similar advice, but if I were you I would hire a lawyer to deal with these guys. I don't think you have a legal case, though. Hiring a lawyer simply MAY make these elders think twice before proceeding with the disfellowshiping thing.
Observador.
i have 2 witnesses coming to my door in the near future.
they left me the "why you can trust the bible" tract which claims there are no contradictions in the bible.
so, in preparation i looked out some examples on the internet.
Hello Cheeseman,
I have the opinion that the Biblie do have contradictions. Believers, however, will always find a way to explain them away. If you really want to try the contradiction line with JWs, try to use those in the gospels. The gospels are wonderful for this because they are parallel reports of the same event.
These are some of the recent ones poped up in this board:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/84180/1.ashx
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/87531/1.ashx
Observador.
actually the letter is from the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
it was sent to elders in february 2002, after our last km school.. i scanned and posted this letter back in 2002, but with the influx of new posters this is a good time to bring this letter back to light.. it discusses field service, inactive publishers, shepherding, marital problems, child abuse, and other topics.
some of the topics in the letter have been updated in more recent correspondence, but overall this is an interesting read.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/tmp/boe20020318.pdf.
As long as the WTS keeps a controlling grip on my family, I do what I can to make things uncomfortable for them online and locally.
You have my smile of approval.
Observador.
actually the letter is from the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
it was sent to elders in february 2002, after our last km school.. i scanned and posted this letter back in 2002, but with the influx of new posters this is a good time to bring this letter back to light.. it discusses field service, inactive publishers, shepherding, marital problems, child abuse, and other topics.
some of the topics in the letter have been updated in more recent correspondence, but overall this is an interesting read.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/tmp/boe20020318.pdf.
DMP,
thanks for reposting the letter. I have a quick comment on something I found interesting:
Is there any reason why your appointment should not be announced to the congregation? If the brother reveals that there is, do not announce the appointment. Return the S-2 form or S-52 appointment letter to the branch office, and provide a complete explanation as to why the appointment should be annulled.
The above is located at the "Elders and Ministerial Servants Appointments" section. Now, remember: the brother has been appointed by the local body of elders (with much prayer...); their recommendation has been sent to Bethel; the GB has appointed the man to be an elder or MS (with much prayer...); but the question above has still to be asked...
For lurkers here: you and me have been thaught for years that these men are appointed by the "holy spirit", remember? How come a question such as the above has to be asked? Is the "holy spirit" so easely fooled by a man? Do you see how this whole thing is one more myth? Do you see how even these men who created and teach this nonsense don't believe it themselves?
Don't waste your time! Take your kids to the park this weekend.
Observador.
interesting article about research on the origins of life!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7381599/?gt1=6428 .
observador.
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interesting article about research on the origins of life!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7381599/?gt1=6428 .
observador.
Interesting article about research on the origins of life!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7381599/?GT1=6428
Observador.
