Posts by observador

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Some single older women in bad circumstances

by LongHairGal in

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friends

i am saddened and angry to observe the pitiful situation some of my jw single female friends are in.

they are over 40 and have little work record, hardly any money and in some instances compromised health issues.

i am angry because these women were waiting for armageddon to come and save them.

observador

This thing of waiting for Armageddon is not only for women.

I have known many more cases than I can count right now. One of the sisters in my Hall, hot, blue eyes, was waiting for a prince. Got an idiot; and both decided that wanted perfect kids in Paradise. Now, she's beyond the age to conceive any.

Another, outspoken, smart, hot as hell, must be still virgin, is waiting for Armagedon until this day.

And not to mention my brother: Recently kicked out of Bethel, 41, has never felt/smelled/tasted woman's stuff, no trade, has thrown out the window the best of his adult man's life.

Friends, if this religion is not a waste of time and energy, I don't know what it is.

Observador.

12

Did Anyone Watch Swingtown on Thursday Night?

by jamiebowers in

it was the pilot episode.

i was a little disappointed that there wasn't more of a seduction of the new swingers.

all it took was a few recreational drugs.

observador

Oh, boobs, I love them. Are you telling me they didn't show any? I'm disappointed. :)

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Forbidden Pleasures ......

by BobsGirl in

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friends

this morning on the way to work, i burst into song.

not just any song ... but the heretofore forbidden "star spangled banner".

i just felt like singing and i wanted to sing something challenging and it seemed like the perfect choice.

observador

"I'm not talking about the big stuff like oral copulation and Christmas (two of my favorite things)"

:)

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Do you fear the wrong things - and ignore the real threats to life?

by AK - Jeff in

interesting article on the reasons we may do so - .

jeff .

http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/index.php?term=pto-20071228-000005&print=1.

observador

I like this. thanks.

48

Please Support this Poor Woman

by jamiebowers in

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friends

god, this video is so sad...nothing new in the world of exjws, but sad nonetheless.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etytreioyl4.

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observador

Hi Az.

Just want to chime in here and say that you're such a special person.

Hang in there. With your video, you're helping the world to see what this religion is all about.

I wish I could say something to make you feel better. I guess I can't. I can just imagine your pain.

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Success Stories................Helping others leave a cult.

by Quirky1 in

i understand many of us here are ex-jw's and have had many experiences leaving the religion.

i am looking for those who have had success in helping others to leave the organization?

how did you accomplish it?

observador

Quirky,

I think the problem is that it takes time to write the whole thing and sometimes people just don't fell like.

I have been able to pull my wife from the Org. My story can be summarized by saying that what worked on her was to show her that she was free to do what she wanted, but that I was calling it quit. Then, after about 3 months the story of child abuse in the org came out, when Barbara Anderson did that NBC dateline program. From that day on, my wife said started to do some research herself and never returned to meetings.

I have also been able to help a non-JW to understand how the mind of a JW works and give him tips on what works and what doesn't work. His mother eventually read CoC and is now out.

What I learned over the years is that being non-confrontational works best most of the time. You have to show happiness after you leave the org. JWs expect your life to go south when you leave. When they don't see that happening and see that your attitude towards JWs is one of disregard for their crazy doctrines, they start to look and feel bad.

JWs have to feel that they're loosing out. Somehow you have to try to show them it is in their interest to get out of there.

The more you oppose them, the more determined and close minded they will become. Be patient, take a long-view strategy. Keep the line of communication open.

My brother was kicked out of Bethel, but told me recently he misses me. This would never have happened if I hadn't change my approach to be less confrontational. I don't know what goes through his mind right now, but his being kicked out of Bethel after almost 20 years there, 41 years old, virgin and no employment, may be just what he needed to start questioning the whole thing.

I can't say that enough: Be patient! Be willing to loose a few arguments, change the subject, show disinterest; bite a little, now blow.

Good luck.
Observador.

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INVISIBLE JESUS ALREADY CAME BACK........Gosh! Really?!!

by Terry in

it really is quite funny.

we actually use to believe jesus returned.

he came back in 1914. he was----invisible!.

observador

"Growing up a JW around JWs, being in Bethel surrounded by JWs, you accept things based on the fact that everyone around you accepts them. The generation change in the 90s blew me away, but nobody around me seemed concerned, so I kept my thoughts to myself and accepted. I accepted "Jesus' invisible presence since 1914" because everyone close to me did. Now I can think rationally and understand that Jesus has been visibly absent since 33 C.E. "Invisibly present", "visibly absent", just like Santa."

Thanks for the good afternoon laugh. :)
I really needed that.

I'm not sure if I believed all that crap, or just accepted it. What I do know is that in 2002 I left the org visibly upset and have been invisibly absent from the meetings, which has resulted in an apparent change of life for the better.

Observador.

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Our CO gave a talk to kids. Stay OUT of school!

by easyreader1970 in

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friends

he wanted to talk to the young ones in the congregation.

the main theme of the talk had to do with avoiding higher education.

basically the main idea was this: witnesses are losing alot of young people here in the last few years.

observador

"I hate to admit it, but I was disappointed in how balanced the talk was."

I know how you feel. It is because of those balanced individuals in the org that JWs sometimes take so long to wake up.

Those are the individuals that help the org make the case that the JW religion is a rational religion.

Observador.

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New Special Talk Outline: #170 Who Is Qualified to Rule Mankind.pdf

by Scully in

thanks to alphaomega for this most recent gift to jwd members!.

who is qualified to rule mankind?.

because the link is dependent on download activity, feel free to be fruitful and multiply download and propagate so this outline reaches as many people as possible..

observador

"Jesus becomes king, war breaks out in heaven and, as a result, he sends Satan and the demons down to the earth. All of this supposedly happened in 1914, and that is why there have been so many more problems on Earth ever since. (Again, supposedly)"

And don't forget that JESUS decided to send SATAN right down to the "earth", with so many places in the Universe... and SATAN got really mad... with MANKIND. Supposedly, of course.

When I read this stuff I get so embarrassed I believed this non-sense one day. Shaking head is disbelief.

Peace.
Observador.

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Notes From Hawaii-Gerrit Losch Talk

by Save My Soul in

a (conditional) friend sent me some notes from the talk in hawaii.

gerrit was the keynote speaker.

this occurred 'immediately after the tribulation of those days' (matthew 24:29), referring to the destruction of babylon the great.

observador

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