Posts by oldcrowwoman

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Women raised as JWs: Did the WTS views on women negatively impact you?

by berylblue in

i'd really like to know.. my experience was that women who were raised in the "truth" and married to a good jw brother did not know how to make decisions.

from reading this board, this would, however, appear to be the least of their problems.. what specifically, if any, were the problems associated with always being told you were a second class person and not capable of making decisions?.

rosemarie

oldcrowwoman

I was'nt raised as a jw. I certainly sold my soul in being subjection. 14 years too long)))))))))). and having lack of self-esteem and self-worth compounded the living conditions.

Looking back over those years observing other women.I felt they were like robots. Like being too sterile.I remember being around two elder wives. envying them for being feisty and up front. Standing up for themselves. I thought how can they get by without being reprimanded. Of course these kinds of behavior was'nt shown in public. Only at their homes.

My encounter with the judical committee show the colors of subjection. Shared the experiences of abuse. There response was "you know how Men are".????? This sure blew this duck out of water.!!! The "good ole Boy's" club. Sounds like this kind of mentality exists through out the org. What was ironic was one of the committee member said "he wished their was a female on the committee. She would understand"!!!

I did buy my soul back with years of therapy. I walk in to my home everyday and feeling thankful for my freedom. I don't take it for granted. This is going on 21 years. I won't forget where I came from.!!!!

Thanks for the opportunity to speak. OCW

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ANXIETY

by oldcrowwoman in

jw
friends

anxiety.

" aniety is secretive.

he does not trust.

oldcrowwoman

ANXIETY

" Aniety is secretive. He does not trust

anyone.,not even his friends, worry, terror,

doubt, and panic. he has away of glombing

onto your skin like smog, and then you feel unclean.

He likes to visit me late at night when I am alone and

exhausted. I never slept with him, but he kissed me on

the forehead once, and I had a headache for two years. He

is a nuisance to get out of the house. He has no respect for

locks or curtains or doors. I speak from experience. It takes

cunning to get rid of him, a combination of anger, humor, and

self-respect. A bath helps too. he does not like to get wet. As

a last resort. If you are not near a bathtub, wet your face with tears."

This was given to me a long time ago. I like visuals dealing with feeling. It's part of my process in healing.

All the Best, OCW

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Vicki Boer v. Watchtower Child abuse Civil Trial - No News Yet but Update

by hawkaw in

victoria a. boer v. watch tower bible and tract society of canada et.al.

involves vicki suing the watchtower and some of its elders.

the organization treated her paedophile father in high regard even after vicki came forward.

oldcrowwoman

Thank you Hawkaw for the info and the update. I am appalled with the cong. lack of insight and support dealing with these allegations of abuse.

I was in horror Vicki having to give her father a hug. Makes my skin crawl. Feels like abuse all over again. I can't imagine what she went through!!!!!!

I will definitely send a letter to that congregation.

I am sorry I am not in a place to be there for the final. But you can tell her I would be proud to stand with her. I am proud of her. I would like to meet her. I will difinitely be there in spirit.

CROW WOMAN

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Your most powerful spiritual saying is?????

by anti-absolutist in

jw
friends

we all go through times of stress and sad times.

what is a simple, yet profound saying that you have reminded yourself of to make these troubling times easier?

you don't have to believe in a literal god, just that there are higher thoughts within us that we all are able to draw from.. the one that has worked the best for me is: .

oldcrowwoman

"WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND"

OCW

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Letter to old Cong

by mattnoel in

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friends

ok so some weeks back i send a letter to my old cong, it stated quite a few points which were very serious, some of them would cause certain members of the cong to be diss'd and asking for an explanation as to why certain things happened i.e stepfather throwing mother down the stairs whilst drunk but mother getting reproved etc etc.

also raised was the issue of the data protection act and wanting a copy of the files held on me and also stating that the baptism is nul and void.

it was about 5 pages long and i also sent it to various members of the cong.. a week ago i get an e mail from a witness stating that i was out of order - my letter was obviously exagerated and lied about to make me a "mad apostate" aparantly in the letter i have admited to keeping a written record of goings on, i blame the society wholey for my mothers death and i have apparantly sent it to the press.. a couple of days ago i get a reply from the cong and guess what it says, pretty much please forward a cheque for 10 along with proof of id and we will send you the records and thats it !!!!!

oldcrowwoman

Hi Matt;

Sorry to hear about your struggles with the cong. and what your mother had to endure!!! Makes me angry.

I never heard such a thing about sending money and ID to get your records.??

keep me posted.

OCW

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HAVE YOU COMMITED A SIN AGAINST JEHOVAH.?????????

by nightwarrior in

the first question is whom do you show your loyalty to ????????????.

1 ) the organization....... 2 ) or to jehovah........... you have five seconds to decide,prove it to yourself by answering these questions,.

whom do you pray through,?????.

oldcrowwoman

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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HAVE YOU COMMITED A SIN AGAINST JEHOVAH.?????????

by nightwarrior in

the first question is whom do you show your loyalty to ????????????.

1 ) the organization....... 2 ) or to jehovah........... you have five seconds to decide,prove it to yourself by answering these questions,.

whom do you pray through,?????.

oldcrowwoman

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Kicked out of JW site

by Nordic in

what i did was tell my wifes story on the site, not only did they delete the post but also kicked me out.

so now i am df from the site, they are so loving.

nordic

oldcrowwoman

Dear Nordic:

First of all I am sorry to hear about you and your family are struggling with abuse issues. And it makes me and sad. But you know you are in the right place here for support and to have a understanding of betrayal and abandonment. feelings we all experienced.

I am sorry that the jw site betrayed you. It saddens me to hear that kind of mentality exists. I admire you and your family courage and strength to speak out. Glad it was safe enough for your child taking the risk in sharing the abuse with you. Says alot about you being a good parent. Its a huge piece in healing.

Its a long long row to hoe in healing but to remind you that we are behind you and your family. My hope that you all are getting outside support dealing with these issues in taking care of yourselves. We were taught not to take care of ourselves.

And if its okay with you I would like to burn a red candle for courage and strength for days to follow.

All the Best, Crow Woman

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Minnesota: Committee endorses extended time period for child sex abuse laws

by No Apologies in

here's a link to a news article in the minneapolis star tribune.

the printed version mentioned the two women suing the watchtower as also testifying at the hearing.

for some reason they are not mentioned in the online version.

oldcrowwoman

I wrote a letter to the StarTribune opinions and the reporter Warren Wolfe regarding sex abuse laws.

Sharing my response: " There are countless numbers of Jehovah Witnesses who have and are experiencing sexual an other abuses through out the United States, Canada and overseas.

I and my 2 daughters are one of many that experienced sexual and domestic abuse. Sharing part of my letter to the Governing Body of Jehovah Witnesses in Brooklyn, New York headquarters regarding their mishandling abuse allegations. Their policy is not to report abuse allegations to the proper authorities. But keep it to themselves. Therefore their are many abuse cases that go back many years.

The anger displayed by me towards the JW org is feelings of betrayal anfd abandoment. What's been taught is how honest and upfront the org. is to protect from the world. What seems that has been forgotten to put God first and what he would want forall his children. Sexual, emotional, physical and domestic abuse issues on any level."

JW org. needs to adopt ZERO tolerance policy dealing with abuse issues on any level.

wrote my whole name and city .

OCW

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HAVE YOU COMMITED A SIN AGAINST JEHOVAH.?????????

by nightwarrior in

the first question is whom do you show your loyalty to ????????????.

1 ) the organization....... 2 ) or to jehovah........... you have five seconds to decide,prove it to yourself by answering these questions,.

whom do you pray through,?????.

oldcrowwoman

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