okay - you have left the org.
you move to another town - like, lets say that they call on you every 2 months, and they have no idea who you are, like me.
i am sure that there are some of you out there...... what do you say to them when they come to the door????
My apt number is 7. Its marked by the jw's as being DA'ed. So for 20 years they have not come to my door. I say that is a long time carrying a grudge!!!!!!
Now that I have the armor to stand up to them. I blast them out their panties with my association to SilentLambs and certainly receive a ear full,
I hope I get that opportunity!!!!
OCW
what job or career would you have loved to do, but being a jw, you weren't aloud to do that?
and how about the college or university course you couldn't get because the end was too close.
did you miss good job opportunities because of the watchtowers expectations?
When first married. I was working for St.Mary's Hospital for 7 years. The elders told my ex-husb. That I could'nt work for a catholic hospital and dealing with blood products. This was in the 70"s. I was resentful and angry having to leave. I loved my job. Ex saying you can take care of other people and but not me. HUge Red Flag. But I tried to make it work. There are no pay offs for super caretakers.
And guess what? Cleaning business 12 years!!. Job was like milking cows 7 days a week.
Now the last 15 yrs. I'm working in a county hospital. Felt like I took my power doing what I love to do!!! I do at times work with blood products.
My son-in-law (faded jw) who has his cleaning business. And is going to school for gun smithing. I am sure that would'nt fly with the elders!!
What patterns we weave!!!!!!
OCW
so, i'm at the public library to pick up a book i had placed on hold.
while i'm there, i decide to check out a book for my daughter that she had been wanting to read.
i go to the children's section for 9 to 12 year olds.
Usually they leave the magazines on the tables in the lounge areas of the hopital. When I see them I pick them up and dump the in the nearest garbage can!!
I feel empowered!!!
OCW
i know that there is more love here, than i ever found in my kingdom hall.
i've seen how you all can rally and support one another.
and that is a mark of christ.
welcome Fruitcake.
By the way I like your name. Altho I am not especially fond of fruitcake itself.
I acknowledged two of his posts. Encourage him to share more about himself. We all have our own process of healing and honoring the feelings that goes with it all. And to be supportive to others and share ways how we can take care of ourselves.
Like I said to Elumn in my way of taking care of myself is I don't engage in discussion of the bible. Its too upsetting for me to talk about. I would really hate to see him just go away. To give it time. Being cut off from family and the org. Is a HUGE LOSS. I support both of you to stay close. To know others who have gone through it.
I felt like I walked through the wilderness for a long time. I was out for 19 yrs til recently of being alone and isolated. I thought I was the only exjw that experienced the abuses. In the last six months many doors were open in helping with my healing process.
You have my support!!
OCW
in the following awake!
article, i think you will see a familar name -- i think you will find some good uses for this quote --- h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e-s: .
awake!, august 22, 1991 issue, page 29:.
If I remember right. The picture of Jeff Anderson. Heidi and Bill Bowen was shown beforehand as one of the a introductions to Eye of America.
One day I hope to be able to meet Jeff Anderson. Very caring and compassionate man. And shows his emotions.
My therapist has high regard for Jeff. She has done work with him regarding abuse allegations.
OCW
for those who want to e-mail [email protected] your response to the producer.
sorry was'nt given the person's name.. does anyone know?.
ocw
For those who want to e-mail [email protected] your response to the producer. Sorry was'nt given the person's name.
Does anyone know?
OCW
for those who want to e-mail [email protected] your response to the producer.
sorry was'nt given the person's name.. does anyone know?.
ocw
For those who want to e-mail [email protected] your response to the producer. Sorry was'nt given the person's name.
Does anyone know?
OCW
Me
58/F/Minnesota the land of 10,000 lakes besides the Mall of America. Only been their 3x's.Not a shopper!!
OCW
i'm wondering if i should just "come out of the closet" and tell my family i don't believe it anymore and da myself or don't make any noise and fade out?
what are the benefits or problems with either choice?
additionally, some have expressed concern over da.
Well DA'ed and Df'ed. you are treated the same shuning practises. DF'ed of my understanding is thats a possibility of being re-instated. DA"ed you are totally wipe off the earth. Supposedly one did'nt belief the org doctrines.
I was DA'ed because of the lack of understanding and support dealing with Domestic Abuse. My issues were not about doctrines but basic human rights.
I support you in whatever decision you take thats right for you. And gives you a peace of mind.
Wish the best.
OCW
start of part two!!.
disfellowshipping happens a lot and for many different reasons why.
lets say you were smoking, this is a habbit that is not too easy to treat.
welcome elumn8-2
I understand that you are new here. Its a good place to connect in receiving support in what ever issues you are dealing with. Many resources to plug into. I encourage you in taking care of your self.
I don't respond to scriptual matters. I do on human matters. I get the sense that you are a young man.
I need to address some issues here. Regarding Gay people. I don't know where you received information regarding gay people. Who ever is mis-informed.
I am a Lesbian. I grew up with a mother and father.I was'nt in the girl scouts or the homemakers club. I wanted to be involve in the future farmers of america. No cigar for a girl. I did'nt just acquire being gay. I was born to be gay. Like you are born a hetrosexual. Took me 39 yrs later for me to figure it out. If you like you can read my postings regarding homosexuality.
I am a recoverying alcoholic 19 yrs and smoke free 5 yrs. Survivor of abuses and my children too.
I was pushed out of the org. dealing with domestic abuse shortly DA'ed self.
Being disfellowship or DA'ed is unloving act towards others, dealing with the shunning. Is not something a god would want people to endure. Its totally wrong!!!
I wish you well on your journey.
All the Best, OCW
