"What should be done if congregation funds are not sufficient to cover resolved donations?"
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Dig deeper. Groceries and paying your mortgage are overrated. WT needs the money more than you do.
AndDontCallMeShirley
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...The WBT$ Theft of Kingdom Hall Bank Accounts and JW Elders...
by OUTLAW in.. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...
.. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...
are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...
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Congregation Pledge Disgusted Elder
by rrb2016 inat the meeting the other night, the elder who had to read the announcements, which included the $$ info for the new donation arrangement seemed downright disgusted as he read the announcements and asked for the vote.
he said, "well, here is another organizational change" as he read the letter about the discontinuation of the 2nd meeting during co visit.
then after they voted, he said if you have any questions ask this other elder as if he wanted nothing to do with it.
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They decided to send $300 or so a month to the BORG, although last month they claim they only collected $600 with expenses of $700. They have $8000 in the bank. I wonder if that will be sent to the BORG also.
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According to the addendum BOE letter of 5-12-13, congregations are only to retain enough funds to cover "two to three months" worth of expenses.
If your cong. has $8000 in its account, and monthly expenses are $700, then, if your elders follow the WT's demands, they'll be sending $5900 of your money to WT.
It's "for Jehovah", though, so don't worry about it. If your cong. gets into a bind, god will write you a check and cover it.
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...The WBT$ Theft of Kingdom Hall Bank Accounts and JW Elders...
by OUTLAW in.. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...
.. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...
are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...
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LisaRose: Money that was donated in the past to a particular fund will now be used for whatever the Watchtower wants
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A prime example is WT's recent request for funds to aid the Phillipines after a massive typhoon destroyed the area. While 'promising' to use any donated funds for disaster relief, WT added the qualifier, 'but please don't specify that the money is to go only for disaster relief. We'll use it for whatever we deem fit. Just donate'.
Since WT has no transparency and discloses none of its finances, a JW has no idea where their donations are actually going. Add to this the three 'secret' pages of this BOE letter containing special instructions on how the elders are to mug the congregation, this entire arrangement stinks of a scam.
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"Probably You Might be Saved" - Somewhere in Zephaniah As I Recall
by Perry inthe watchtower (and old-timers in the org) love to quote old testament passages that were directed toward israel.
however, the new testament is "a better covenant based upon better promises".. in the following verses, salvation is not described as a possibility, but as a certainty, as a present possession for the original christians:.
justification is a present possession (rom.
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Jesus wants people to make an informed decision about Him, what He offers and why.
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World Christian Encyclopedia (David A. Barrett; Oxford University Press, 1982) apparently estimated almost 21,000 denominations, and the updated World Christian Encyclopedia (Barrett, Kurian, Johnson; Oxford Univ Press, 2nd edition, 2001) estimated at least 33,000. “Denomination” is defined as “an organised christian group within a country”.
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It seems the message is as clear as mud...
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"Probably You Might be Saved" - Somewhere in Zephaniah As I Recall
by Perry inthe watchtower (and old-timers in the org) love to quote old testament passages that were directed toward israel.
however, the new testament is "a better covenant based upon better promises".. in the following verses, salvation is not described as a possibility, but as a certainty, as a present possession for the original christians:.
justification is a present possession (rom.
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and who created the "debt" in the first place? God himself. It's a vicious cycle.
(not that I believe in god or any biblical nonsense...just commenting on what's there).
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[edit] Perry. Question: how is it that you present yourself as a biblical pundit, and you post a topic about a "scriptural"/theological point highlighted in a specific Bible passage, yet you don't even have enough interest in the scripture you discuss by looking it up?? ( topic title: "Probably You Might be Saved" - Somewhere in Zephaniah As I Recall")
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FYI- it's Zephaniah 2:3. I'm an atheist...how come I know that and you don't?
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AWAKE! Blasts Vatican "Hypocrisy" on Real Estate Aquisitions
by 4thgen inawake!
may 22, 1969 page 30. watching the world: blasts vatican hypocrisy.
professor harvey cox of the harvard university divinity school told some 4,000 prelates, priests, students and scholars from more than 9 countries that the roman catholic church is helping foster unbelief.
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Vidiot: Is it just me, or does it seem like the more the WTS tries to distinguish itself from "Christendom", the more like them it becomes?
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It's just you. LOL.
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...The WBT$ Theft of Kingdom Hall Bank Accounts and JW Elders...
by OUTLAW in.. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...
.. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...
are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...
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This postscript should not be read to the congregation, and this letter should not be posted on the information board.
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"True religion in no way practices secretiveness." --W 6/1/97. p.6
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"Probably You Might be Saved" - Somewhere in Zephaniah As I Recall
by Perry inthe watchtower (and old-timers in the org) love to quote old testament passages that were directed toward israel.
however, the new testament is "a better covenant based upon better promises".. in the following verses, salvation is not described as a possibility, but as a certainty, as a present possession for the original christians:.
justification is a present possession (rom.
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"practical":
his beliefs, despite being untenable, are superior to a JWs beliefs, who's beliefs are also untenable.
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"Probably You Might be Saved" - Somewhere in Zephaniah As I Recall
by Perry inthe watchtower (and old-timers in the org) love to quote old testament passages that were directed toward israel.
however, the new testament is "a better covenant based upon better promises".. in the following verses, salvation is not described as a possibility, but as a certainty, as a present possession for the original christians:.
justification is a present possession (rom.
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"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don’t like that statement, but few can argue with it." -- Carl Sagan, from "A Demon Haunted World"
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AWAKE! Blasts Vatican "Hypocrisy" on Real Estate Aquisitions
by 4thgen inawake!
may 22, 1969 page 30. watching the world: blasts vatican hypocrisy.
professor harvey cox of the harvard university divinity school told some 4,000 prelates, priests, students and scholars from more than 9 countries that the roman catholic church is helping foster unbelief.
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"One elder I was talking to about the donation arrangements and property buying justified it by saying 'the churches of Christendom do it too'."
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Oh, I see. Then why don't JWs also do all the other things the churches do? Like celebrate holidays, support the government, support military actions, donate blood, operate charities, etc, etc, etc??
It's a typical JW response- condemn everyone else until what they are doing suits WT needs.....then the same conduct is magically transformed into a positive.