AndDontCallMeShirley

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  CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?

  share your horror story!.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  @ earthfire:

  It is true that the payments never go away.

  It is NOT true that WT has lowered the expected payments. The new "donation" amount is to be equal to, or greater than, the previous loan amount. That is specifically stated in the BOE letter.

  If a congregation's monthly pledge falls short of the promised amount, the elders are instructed to bully the cong. via talks and remind them to fulfill their promise.

  (Incidentally, 'fulfilling your promises' applies only to the rank-and-file, NOT to WT itself).
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  CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?

  share your horror story!.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Obviously none of these JWs have figured out they'll never see their money again. So sad.
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  In our local news... Jehovah's Witnesses LIED to Man with Brain injury

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://krqe.com/2014/05/08/family-of-man-with-brain-injury-fights-building-plan/.

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  https://www.facebook.com/savejimsview.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Apog, I was being facetious. I understand what you are saying.

  It'll be interesting to see how all this works out and what the true story is.

  I think what many are reacting to here is the fact that WT is using more heavy-handed corporate bullying to get what it wants, whether it is bullying JWs or "worldly" people. The "new" donation arrangement being a prime example. It's understandable if the first reaction may be to not give WT the benefit of the doubt, especially since this man made his concerns known and had a "gentlemen's agreement".

  If the JWs who gave him assurances that his concerns would be honored were disingenuous or hasty with their promises (not "counting the cost"), it is not unreasonable, when those agreements are not honored, for whatever reason, that people assume the worst.
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  The resolution was actually passed!

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who would have thought that enough people would raise their hands when the resolution was put before the congregation tonight?

  based on the pledges that the publishers put on those little pieces of paper, the congregation is promising the wts that they will send $1,000/month to support the society's building funds.. there is a traditional monthly shortfall of about $100 with the basic monthly bills usually around $1,000.

  i didn't raise my hand.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  @ Mary: here's the "new"arrangement as per the BOE Letter:

  Contribution boxes: As noted above, on May 1,
  2014, each Kingdom Hall should have only two types of contribution boxes, one
  labeled “Local Congregation Expenses” and one labeled “Worldwide Work.”
  
  • What should be done with existing “Kingdom Hall Construction Worldwide”
  boxes or boxes set up to accept donations for a local building project?
  
  These boxes will no longer be used for accepting donations in support of
  Kingdom Hall or Assembly Hall construction. They should be removed or relabeled
  to accept donations for the worldwide work on May 1, 2014.
  
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  Publishers are to write on slips of paper what they will contribute to the AH and KH funds per month, in addition to the other WT funds and monthly cong. expenses.
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  In our local news... Jehovah's Witnesses LIED to Man with Brain injury

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://krqe.com/2014/05/08/family-of-man-with-brain-injury-fights-building-plan/.

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  https://www.facebook.com/savejimsview.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  @ Apog: It's just that it's embarrassing to be a part of the forum when people play the mountain out of a molehill game.

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  It's all a matter of perspective, Apog. In this case, a molehill- the Kingdom Hall- is blocking the view of Jim's mountain. He has a right to be upset.
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  I was "totally" stopped in my tracks by an "atheist" comment.

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i must admit i can at times be a little "egotistical" when it comes to knowledge and the bible.

  i have studied the bible for so long and have always had a passion for the bible as a jw and as an ex-jw.

  i guess that is all i have left when it comes to religion and as humans we do tend to stroke our egos.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  @ designs: I have had Fundamentalists tell me it is God (their god) who alone decides who will live and die by his hand and that decision is always just.

  This is the standard answer when god's actions are so morally offensive that a person has no rational answer to justify it.

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  @ booker-t: "If Jehovah is so all loving as people believe, then why did he save animals over babies?"

  Oh, it gets worse. Remember Jehovah's "solution" to fixing the problem of the Canaanite's practice of child sacrifice?? He ordered the Israelites to wipe out entire towns- which included the killing of all the animals (apparently they were just as guilty as humans for some unspecified sins) and the killing of ALL the children.

  Jehovah™ claimed to be so completely offended at the very thought of child murder, yet his "solution" to correcting the practice of child murder was to murder all the children.
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  The resolution was actually passed!

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who would have thought that enough people would raise their hands when the resolution was put before the congregation tonight?

  based on the pledges that the publishers put on those little pieces of paper, the congregation is promising the wts that they will send $1,000/month to support the society's building funds.. there is a traditional monthly shortfall of about $100 with the basic monthly bills usually around $1,000.

  i didn't raise my hand.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  do not 'true Christians' [tm] abstain from voting on mundane matters, like filthy lucre?

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  It's only wrong when non-JWs do it
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  Verde Valley Elders- Is this Ethical???

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://youtu.be/xkxb3wswhvo.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  I'm sure Jehovah™ will just look the other way...all is fair for "The Kingdom" you know, and when a "glorious one" fleeces the flock it's not so bad.

  Remember, Jehovah's™ Holy Spirit™ appointed™ this Glorious One™ through the Faithful Slave™ and the Watchtower™ Organization™, all for Kingdom™ interests in these momentous™ Last Days™ before Armageddon™.

  It's good to be the king.
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  The resolution was actually passed!

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who would have thought that enough people would raise their hands when the resolution was put before the congregation tonight?

  based on the pledges that the publishers put on those little pieces of paper, the congregation is promising the wts that they will send $1,000/month to support the society's building funds.. there is a traditional monthly shortfall of about $100 with the basic monthly bills usually around $1,000.

  i didn't raise my hand.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Wait until reality sets in and these brain-dead JWs realize the mess they've gotten themselves into !!!

  Right now they are so caught up in the "this is for Jehovah, what a loving provision" mode, they aren't even thinking rationally.
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  Sign of the Time of the End ---> Armagaddon

  by Waiting4TheKingdom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  five events to come and to watch for:.

  1 world leaders say peace and security!

  - they "say" this but may not fully "achieve" this.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  @ Johnamos: Its funny that here I like your user name and profile pic because I like Leslie Nielsen and the airplane and naked gun movies, but yet your replies are ridiculous

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  Wow, John...I just don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight knowing you don't like me or my posts.