Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

"In this chapter we present the Bible evidence which indicates that six thousand years from the creation of Adam were complete with A.D. 1872; and hence that, since A.D. 1872 are chronologically entered upon the seventh thousand or the Millennium." (Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 2, p. 33, 1889)

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*** jv chap. 28 pp. 631-632 Testing and Sifting From Within ***

It was only natural that they should wonder when and how these things would occur. Did the inspired Scriptures provide any clues?

Using Bible chronology that had first been laid out by Christopher Bowen of England, they thought that 6,000 years of human history had ended in 1873,

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*** ka chap. 11 p. 187 par. 6 “Here Is the Bridegroom!” ***

According to the Bible chronology that was thereafter adopted, the six thousand years of man’s existence on the earth ended in the year 1872 but the Lord Jesus did not come at the end of those six millenniums of human existence, rather, at the start of the antitypical Jubilee in October of 1874. The year 1874 was calculated as being the end of six millenniums of sin among mankind. From this latter date mankind was understood to be in the seventh millennium.—Revelation 20:4.

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"According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man's creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E Six thousand years of man's existence on earth will soon be up, yea within this generation. The rein of Christ...to run parallel with the 7th millennium ..." (Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God, 1966, p. 29-30)

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Jason Cobb on the new tithing arrangement (this is good!)

by Rufus T. Firefly in

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http://jtv-podcast.tumblr.com/post/87641202438/the-wheat-and-the-weeds-updates-on-the.

AndDontCallMeShirley

@ MF: What I found interesting was that Jason Cobb understood the basic scam but it doesn't sound like he realizes the scam started from the top

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This was Jason's error throughout the entire Menlo Park cong. scandal. I don't know if he deliberately let WT off the hook so as to avoid further legal troubles with WT or if it is what he actually believes.

What he fails to realize is, if the MP Cong. scandal was a local matter unkown to WT, why is it WT did nothing to correct it when Cobb and others exposed it? And, why did WT disfellowship Cobb and others for doing the right thing while simultaneously protecting the very elders at the center of the scandal?

The fact is, if the corruption did not come from the top down it would be handled and corrected immediately rather than allowed to remain as status quo.

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What Do Mormons Really Believe? RE: The Nov. 8, 1995 Awake Magazine

by D_Rolling_Kearney in

i am a member of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints, and i have written a heavily-documented response to the official magazine of the jehovah's witnesses, awake!, that claims to teach what we believe.

i saw an article from last year's watchtower about a guy who had barely been mormon for very long, and obviously did not know what we believe, who was given this magazine by jw's to show him "the truth.

" he claims to have proven to himself that it was true from information on the lds church's website.

AndDontCallMeShirley

The laughable thing about JWs vs. Mormons is that each declares the other to be on the wrong path and deceived, yet both are cut from exactly the same cloth.

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Australian Government publishes on official web site the current Jehovah's Witnesses "Handling of Child Abuse" confidential letter to all bodies of elders (October 1, 2012)

by jwleaks in

the current jehovah's witnesses official child abuse handling procedure letter to all bodies of elders (october 1, 2012) has been placed into public domain by the australian (victoria) government "inquiry into the handling of child abuse by religious oganisations".. official government web site link to letter:.

http://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/images/stories/committees/fcdc/inquiries/57th/child_abuse_inquiry/submissions/steven_unthank_supp_a_appendix_1.pdf.

short link:.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Is it just to make the elders feel special, or do they have something to hide

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YES and YES.

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What Do Mormons Really Believe? RE: The Nov. 8, 1995 Awake Magazine

by D_Rolling_Kearney in

i am a member of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints, and i have written a heavily-documented response to the official magazine of the jehovah's witnesses, awake!, that claims to teach what we believe.

i saw an article from last year's watchtower about a guy who had barely been mormon for very long, and obviously did not know what we believe, who was given this magazine by jw's to show him "the truth.

" he claims to have proven to himself that it was true from information on the lds church's website.

AndDontCallMeShirley

"honest discussion" to a religious person = their view is the only one under consideration and you must buy into their delusional fantasies while ignoring all evidence to the contrary.

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International conventions - Seattle

by Lynnie in

just found out from my jw mom that the congregations located in the suburbs north of seattle.

will be renting buses to shuttle people back and forth to the international convention at husky.

stadium.

AndDontCallMeShirley

LQ: Yes, I also checked on Seattle hotel prices at the same time I was searcing for the stadium info. The $300/night rooms were for luxury hotels in the area, and there weren't many of them. Most rooms were in the $100-$150 range. As you said, that part of the "experience" is also BS.

The fact is, that even without "Jehovah's™" help and the WTs crack team of negotiators, JWs still could've easily gotten a hotel room for $140/night.

But, of course, WT has to spin this to 'prove' how great they are and how much their god Jehovah™ does for them.

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I am the Worlds greatest lover.

by new hope and happiness in

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i am the worlds greatest lover!.

do i really expect you to be believe that?.

honestly?.

AndDontCallMeShirley

But seriously it so wonderful to look at a woman as a man, without a watchtower in my hand.

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My question is: what's in your hand now?

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Worry Over Possible "Spying Elders"

by abbasgreta in

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this seems to be a real worry for 'faders' on a number of threads.

the responses to ducati's first posting.

is a good example.

AndDontCallMeShirley

KW: I think elders are going to be more abusive and start calling disloyal ones apostates

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It's already going that way, and WT is escalating its view that anyone, including active JWs "in good standing", who expresses anything "negative" about the Org. is to be viewed as an opposer:

day text 3-1-14

".... Let us therefore have nothing to do with apostates or anyone who claims to be a brother but who is dishonoring God. This should be the case even if he is a family member. (1 Cor. 5:11) We are not benefited by trying to refute the arguments of apostates or those who are critical of Jehovah’s organization. In fact, it is spiritually dangerous and improper to peruse their information, whether it appears in written form or it is found on the Internet.—Isa. 5:20; Matt. 7:6. w12 5/15 4:12, 13