It's a book who's stories begin in the Stone Age, progress into the Bronze Age, are written about in the Iron Age, all so it could be entirely debunked in the Information Age.
AndDontCallMeShirley
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Something I need to clear up about the bible - It is not a BRONZE AGE BOOK!
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inlet's be technical.
the bronze age ended in 1200 bce in devoloped places and later ... aroun 900-800 in other places.
indeed read 1 samuel 13's ending.. the bible was produced not one tiny bit in the bronze age.
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Atlanta International Conv. Invite July 2014
by Iown Mylife intwo copies of this invitation were pinned to the corkboard at the post office this morning: a world government, why do we need one, is it possible, who is qualified to rule?.
i know this invitation hand-out has been discussed but i missed this part - that wt obviously is saying they are qualified to rule the world.
i can't take it.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
Who may attend? Answer: Everyone.
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Unless JWs don't want you there, then suddenly it is not open to the public:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOt8SaC9-No&feature=player_detailpage
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Entertainment for International Delegates
by Listener inbibl3thumper has posted a youtube of the celebrations that took place for german delegates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvs6_q7rqps&feature=em-subs_digest.
it's hard to believe that they are now using the kingdom hall to sing pop songs and for dancing.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
Where is the District Overseer?
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Packing his bags...he's been pink-slipped.
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Entertainment for International Delegates
by Listener inbibl3thumper has posted a youtube of the celebrations that took place for german delegates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvs6_q7rqps&feature=em-subs_digest.
it's hard to believe that they are now using the kingdom hall to sing pop songs and for dancing.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
Just remember the theme of the convention everybody: "Keep Seeking First God's Kingdom".
JeezHovah loves line dances and "worldly" music, especially the Vietnam War protest songs. All of this promotes "The Kingdom"* and will surely bring thousands of people into "The Truth".
As others have said, I remember the days when a JW couldn't even have a cup of coffee in a KH on a bitterly cold winter morning field service meeting. "Worldly" music for a wedding? Forget it! "Worldly" music while cleaning or working on a KH? Forget it!
Now WT is endorsing Penetecostal Revivals. I wonder how long before JWs are also 'Holy Rolling" or having Bingo Night? Bake sales?
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* I bet not one JW realizes or cares that no one is out 'preaching for the Kingdom' when they are touring, dancing and listening to concerts instead.
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Something I need to clear up about the bible - It is not a BRONZE AGE BOOK!
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inlet's be technical.
the bronze age ended in 1200 bce in devoloped places and later ... aroun 900-800 in other places.
indeed read 1 samuel 13's ending.. the bible was produced not one tiny bit in the bronze age.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
and?
It depends on what you are considering: when it was allegedly written, or the events during the time periods it allegedly recounts.
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Another possible reason why GB demoted Pastor Russell from the FDS.
by donuthole inin barbara anderson's research for the proclaimers book she was tasked with identifying the faithful & discreet slave throughout history.
the idea was the watchtower could identify a line of kingdom proclaimers from the days of the apostles.
she was not able to do this with the established criteria, that the individual had to adhere to the basic doctrinal beliefs seperating jw's from "false religion".. it seems that governing body would now agree.
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Of course, if 'ol CTR were to come back today, I doubt he'd be able to pick WT/JWs out of a lineup and identify them as the religion he started...
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Poor Animals
by HeyThere inwow.
the bible really is something else.
i believe i am becoming athiest.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
from, "The Atheist's Book of Bible Stories":
SOLOMON, AND THE ISRAELITE ABATTOIR King Solomon was a very devout man. He also liked to do things in big ways. Take, for example, the sacrifice that he offered up during a festival:
“Then the King and all the people offered sacrifice before the LORD. King Solomon offered as a sacrifice twenty-two thousand oxen and a hundred and twenty thousand sheep.” - 2 Chronicles 7:4,5Now, let’s pause for a moment and let these numbers sink in. According to verse 9, this festival lasted seven days. That means that one animal was killed every 4.3 seconds, day and night, for a week.
Let’s look at it another way. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, an adult sheep would weigh between 80 and 400 pounds. Let’s take an average size of 200 pounds. Oxen come it at around 900 pounds. This means that Solomon slaughtered 43.8 million pounds of animals.
This would be a pretty big pile of animal. If the animal carcasses were stacked, with no wasted space, it would make a pile of 3.9 million cubic feet, or, a pile 5 feet high, covering 18 acres.
And what did he do with this meat? Well according to verse 7, he tried to put it on the alter, along with a cereal grain offering.
“For there he offered the burnt offering and the fat of the peace offerings, because the bronze alter Solomon had made could not hold the burnt offering and the cereal offering and the fat.” - 2 Chronicles 7:7
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Talk about an understatement. I could picture Solomon, looking at that mountain of meat, and saying to his attendant, “Gee, do you think that’s too much to put on the alter?”
The sheer volume of meat involved is enough to convince anyone that this passage is grossly exaggerated. I will not even attempt to calculate the economic impact of this slaughter on a relatively poor group of desert farmers. -
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What's missing from this list of technologies used by JWs
by scotoma inthis topic has been discussed before but it is interesting to look at it in the light of the new book god's kingdom rules.. 1903 news paper sermons.
1914 photo drama of creation.
1922 radio.
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What's missing from this list of technologies used by JWs
by scotoma inthis topic has been discussed before but it is interesting to look at it in the light of the new book god's kingdom rules.. 1903 news paper sermons.
1914 photo drama of creation.
1922 radio.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
I visited Bethel in the 1980's and, as it was explained on our tour, commercial printing companies had toyed with the idea of a MEPS-type system prior to WT, but it was not a commercially viable concept (for-profit coroporations have to actually earn their money and are accountable to shareholders, unlike WT which has no accountability and a book full of blank checks to rely on). As Wikipedia verifies, "worldly" publishers have no reason to print their magazines or books in a gazillion languages, so there's no need to have a system that makes it possible to publish in a gazillion languages.
WT developed MEPS for its own unique needs, but it added no value to anything else outside of WT.
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Multilanguage Electronic Publishing System
(MEPS, formerly called Multilanguage Electronic Phototypesetting System[1]) is a system for offset printing in a variety of languages and character sets. The system, completed in 1986, was designed by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
The MEPS program is used for laying out written material in different languages with different character sets. The program was designed based on responses from the organization's own translators about each language. Before MEPS there was no system available for printing in many languages, due largely to the economies of many countries where production of literature in their languages was not financially viable.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilanguage_Electronic_Phototypesetting_System
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VERY short day at the Arlington/Dallas International Convention-My Observations
by CaptainSchmideo inokay, some good takeaway:.
i have never been to a convention quite like this before.
a very friendly vibe all around, lots of banners and posters with sayings like "sending love to all our brothers", "see you in the paradise", "ecuador sends greetings", and "jehovahs-witness.net" (okay, i lied on that last one...).
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AndDontCallMeShirley
@ Billy TEB: He explained how Genesis was correct in showing that women have an innate, out-of-control, sexual craving for men.
Where are these women and do you have their phone numbers?
He must be talking about non-JW women. What I've noticed in the Org. is that one food, when eaten, permanently kills a JW woman's sex drive everytime:
wedding cake.