who pays for the environmental cleanup of that site?
The environmental toxicity is far less dangerous than the 'spiritual' toxicity soon to inhabit the same plot of land.
AndDontCallMeShirley
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NEWS : New developments in the London Bethel relocation story
by raymond frantz inlondon bethel relocation the story so farthere are new developments in the relocation of the london bethel development .
a landowner has agreed unconditionally to sell her rundown car breakers yard to jehovahs witnesses for their new uk headquarters, it emerged this week.. the international bible students association (ibsa) paid a deposit, agreed a final price and swapped contracts with charmaine small this month for temple farm in ship road, west hanningfield.. ms small has promised the ibsa the charity used by the religious sect to distribute its literature that dozens of car dealers will vacate the 50-acre farm over the next few months.. speaking to the chronicle, stephen morris, of the ibsa branch relocation department, said...(read full article here ).
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My anointed mother sleep over!! She hears demon creaking at night and my wife cheats on me!
by Witness 007 invisiting her "lost son" and this morning she says there was demonic "knocking" on the windows and ceiling and she did not sleep.
my wife has her own buisness and works late so her holiness asked me to drive down to see if she was fornicating with anyone....she thinks two worldly people taking an elevator to the 10 floor would have had sex by the 5th floor....thats the quality of anionted alive today...she is not nuts a well respected pioneer nazi..... .
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she thinks two worldly people taking an elevator to the 10 floor would have had sex by the 5th floor.
This is incorrect. It almost always happens by the third floor. Worldly people are extremely horny.
Thats the quality of anionted alive today...she is not nuts a well respected pioneer nazi....
I've met similar "anointed" ones in the last few years. My only thought was, if this is the best god can do (if he exists- he doesn't) then JWs are in a world of hurt when these nutjobs take office to rule the Paradise Earth™.
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A QUESTION FOR JW'S who say, "The brothers were overly zealous" about 1975
by Terry in"what was the actual significance of that year, then?".
if jw's were overly zealous, what was the exact amount of zeal encouraged by the wts for a non-event which took up.
over 7 years of every jw's time?.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah; 1971; 2nd ed.; p. 216:
"Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom."
Now consider what the F&DS has said about those making such false predictions:
Awake! 1968 Oct 8 p.23 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end to the world," even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The "end" did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? Missing from such people were God’s truths and the evidence that he was guiding and using them."
Watchtower April 1, 1972, p. 197
"Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a 'prophet' of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record. What does it show?"
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A QUESTION FOR JW'S who say, "The brothers were overly zealous" about 1975
by Terry in"what was the actual significance of that year, then?".
if jw's were overly zealous, what was the exact amount of zeal encouraged by the wts for a non-event which took up.
over 7 years of every jw's time?.
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No, of course WT didn't hype 1975...the rank and file came up with the concept all on their own and even managed to get their ideas into WT literature and preach it for several years before WT caught on. Sneaky devils, those R&F.
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Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15
"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. ... Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!"
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1968: "Why Are You Looking Forward To 1975?" … "What about all this talk concerning the year 1975? Lively discussions, some based on speculation, have burst into flame during recent months among serious students of the Bible. Their interest has been kindled by the belief that 1975 will mark the end of 6,000 years of human history since Adam's creation. The nearness of such an important date indeed fires the imagination and presents unlimited possibilities for discussion." (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1968, p. 494)
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1974: "Yes, the end of this system is so very near! Is that not reason to increase our activity?...Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world's end." (Kingdom Ministry, May 1974, p. 3)
Of course, WT has gone down this road before...and failed then as well. Compare to this statement to one made 58 years earlier:
1916: "We see no reason for doubting, therefore, that the Times of the Gentiles ended in October, 1914; and that a few more years will witness their utter collapse and the full establishment of God's kingdom in the hands of Messiah." (Watchtower Reprints, VI, Sept 1, 1916, p. 5950)
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The Present Truth is the Truth and the Old Truth is the Truth, even if they contradict.
by garyneal inthat is the conclusion you must accept if you are a jehovah's witness as my wife tries to explain to me that even if what they are teaching today contradicts what they were previously teaching, they had the truth then and they have the truth now.
the difference is, they (the witnesses and the governing body) simply believed that what they were teaching at the time was the truth but when they discovered new information they adjusted their thinking.
so since they formerly believed it to be the truth, they were in the truth.. an example she gave involved people who once believed the earth was flat.
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Classic example of the pot calling the kettle black:
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Awake, 70 4/22 8-10 Changes That Disturb People
Changes That Disturb PeopleTHE churches are in rapid decline. Even in the United States, where religion still enjoys perhaps the greatest popularity, nearly three out of four persons polled said that it is losing influence. Why is there this decline in religion?
One of the reasons is that people are disturbed by what is happening in their churches. Yes, millions of persons have been shocked to learn that things they were taught as being vital for salvation are now considered by their church to be wrong. Have you, too, felt discouragement, or even despair, because of what is happening in your church? A businessman in Medellín, Colombia, expressed the effect the changes have had on many.
"Tell me," he asked, "how can I have confidence in anything? How can I believe in the Bible, in God, or have faith? Just ten years ago we Catholics had the absolute truth, we put all our faith in this. Now the pope and our priests are telling us this is not the way to believe any more, but we are to believe ‘new things.’ How do I know the ‘new things’ will be the truth in five years?"...The change in teaching has shaken their confidence in the Church. Would you not feel the same way if what you had always been taught to be vital for salvation was suddenly considered unnecessary? Would you not be inclined to question other teachings of your church also?
…What Becomes Evident
The inability of the Church to explain its position Scripturally makes evident an important fact: The Catholic Church has not based its teachings upon what God’s Word says. Rather, it has founded many of its beliefs and practices on the unstable traditions of men."
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Rapid evolution in action
by cantleave ina nice example of how the introduction of a competeing species can result in behavioral and anatomical changes in an indigenous one.. http://www.the-scientist.com//?articles.view/articleno/41309/title/rapid-evolution-in-real-time/.
for most of its existence, the carolina anole (anolis carolinensis) was the only lizard in the southwestern u.s. it could perch where it wanted, eat what it liked.
but in the 1970s, aided by human pet trade, the brown anole (anolis sagrei)native to cuba and the bahamascame marching in.
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Just like hiding dinosaur bones so they could be found by scientists, Satan has made these rapid changes appear in lizards just to make the Bible look bad. It's a Satanic hoax.
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JAN 2015 Awake - Yet More Fallacies and Disingenuous Statements re Evolution/Creation
by konceptual99 inso the new awake is up.. first question..... "how did life begin?.
how would you complete the following sentance?.
life is the result of..... a. evolution.
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sir82: The householder in the video comes across as a mouth-breathing cretin who needs to be reminded "first socks, then shoes" every morning.
Well, compared to a JW who has a "college-level" education simply by reading the Watchtower and Awake, everyone else is a mouth-breathing cretin.
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JAN 2015 Awake - Yet More Fallacies and Disingenuous Statements re Evolution/Creation
by konceptual99 inso the new awake is up.. first question..... "how did life begin?.
how would you complete the following sentance?.
life is the result of..... a. evolution.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
Why can they not be open, transparent?
WT has never been guilty of transparency. Ever. Transparency is anathema to its core methodology.
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The Present Truth is the Truth and the Old Truth is the Truth, even if they contradict.
by garyneal inthat is the conclusion you must accept if you are a jehovah's witness as my wife tries to explain to me that even if what they are teaching today contradicts what they were previously teaching, they had the truth then and they have the truth now.
the difference is, they (the witnesses and the governing body) simply believed that what they were teaching at the time was the truth but when they discovered new information they adjusted their thinking.
so since they formerly believed it to be the truth, they were in the truth.. an example she gave involved people who once believed the earth was flat.
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WT has historically placed the blame on god- not directly, but by default. Afterall, if WT is guided by Jehovah™ in everything it does and teaches, as WT claims, then old "truths" that have been revealed as not being true at all are, in reality, lies. Who taught WT the lies?? God did ! So, it's His fault ! Being that god teaches lies, then he is not the self-proclaimed "god of truth" for whom "it is impossible to lie". By extension, this nullifies all the other hoped-for "promises" WT's god Jehovah has given to JWs- like Armageddon, a Paradise Earth, etc. I wonder how many JWs realize that their held beliefs about the wishy-washiness of Jehovah™ eviscerates their most cherished beliefs?
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WT 09/15/2010
" Similarly today, a Governing Body composed of spirit-anointed Christians contributes to the unity of the worldwide congregation. The Governing Body publishes spiritually encouraging literature in many languages. This spiritual food is based on God's Word. Thus, what is taught is not from men but from Jehovah.-Isa. 54:13."
As the following quote shows, WT uses euphimisms when things get uncomfortable, like calling errors "misconstructions"; or calling errors "new light". It makes no difference...a falsehood is a falsehood no matter which color of paint you coat it with.
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In the 1954 Douglas Walsh Trial in Scotland, Fred Franz, who was Watchtower president from 1977-1992, was asked about the Society’s changes in doctrine. Here is how he answered:
Q. So that what is published as the truth today by the Society may have to be admitted to be wrong in a few years?
A. We have to wait and see.
Q. And in the meantime the body of Jehovah’s Witnesses have been following error?
A. They have been following misconstructions on the Scriptures.
Q. Error?
A. Well, error.
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Douglas Walsh Trial, Pursuer’s Proof, 1954, p. 114
FREDERICK W FRANZ
The Question was asked by Watchtower Society Lawyer, Haydon C Covington
Q. Who subsequently became the Editor of the magazine, the main Editor of the "Watchtower" magazine?
A. In 1931, October 15th,as I recall, the"Watch Tower" discontinued publishing the names of any editorial committee on the second page.The Court:He asked you who became the Editor.
The Witness:And it said....
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The REAL purpose of the new 1914 explanation video...
by Calebs Airplane inwhen a dub starts to question an elder about this doctrine (at the kh, field circus or wherever), the elder will only need to utter these words: "just watch the video".... .
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No, here's the real reason:
When a dub starts to question an elder about this doctrine (at the KH, field circus or wherever), the elder will only need to utter these words: "Just watch the video" "are you doubting the GB? You are an apostate and must be disfellowshipped"...