Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

Well, of course the original miscalculation as to when 6,000 years of man's existence ended was god's fault, not WT's. WT was using a "flawed" King James Bible...the Bible being God's Word, which He apparently didn't correct for his chosen true religion:

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***Salvation book chap.16 p.287 par.12***

According to an inaccurate chronology that had been worked out from the King James Authorized Version Bible, Russell calculated that Christ’s "presence" had begun in the year 1874 C.E., *

unseen to human eyes and seen only by the eye of faith. This was why, when he began publishing a new religious magazine in defense of the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ, Russell entitled it "Zion’s Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence." *

* if Russell was the Faithful Slave, wouldn't God or Jesus have informed him the KJ was wrong before allowing Russell to teach the wrong date for Jesus' return for over 50 years? Or, did God not know that the KJ Bible was wrong and, therefore, didn't know any more than Russell and couldn't correct him?

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***w74 8/15 pp.506-507***

In 1877, Russell joined Nelson H. Barbour in publishing the book Three Worlds, and the Harvest of This World. It indicated that the end of the Gentile Times in 1914 would be preceded by a forty-year period to open with a three-and-a-half-year harvest beginning in 1874 C.E. According to Bible chronology thereafter adopted, it was understood that 6,000 years of man’s existence on earth ended in 1872, whereas six millenniums of human sin concluded and the seventh millennium began in 1874. Christ’s presence was thought to have begun in October 1874, at the start of the great antitypical Jubilee.—Lev. chap. 25; Rev. 20:4.

"According to trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man’s creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E." —Life Everlasting – In Freedom of the Sons of God, 1966, p. 29

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Opps! 2015 Calendar with errors

by pixel in

to all congregations in the united states branch territory.

re: 2015 calendar in english.

if many publishers in your congregation have requested the 2015 calendar in english,.

AndDontCallMeShirley

The month of "Jehovah".

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29 days on the calendar and not a damn thing happens...ever.

It's the most ineffective month offering nothing but dashed hopes and deafening silence. Typical.

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A QUESTION FOR JW'S who say, "The brothers were overly zealous" about 1975

by Terry in

"what was the actual significance of that year, then?".

if jw's were overly zealous, what was the exact amount of zeal encouraged by the wts for a non-event which took up.

over 7 years of every jw's time?.

AndDontCallMeShirley

A hilarious example of WT self-contradiction:

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"Following 1925, meeting attendance dropped dramatically in some congregations...

Again, in 1975, there was disappointment when expectations regarding the start of the Millennium failed to materialize. Again, some withdrew from the organization." --- Proclaimers (Jv), p.633 [emphasis added]

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"This organization has NEVER disappointed us and always gives us an abundance of pure water of truth from God´s Word". --- W 7-15-2011

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Circuit assembly symposium: help those who have become inactive

by rosyray in

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i just discovered that the circuit assembly my family is attending tomorrow contains a symposium entitled:.

help others to seek jehovah's righteousness: those who have become inactive.

i poked around a bit on here and didn't find any comments about this.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Honesty: I have never been contacted with encoragement to return to the Watchtower's despicable, nasty vomit by any Jehovah's Witness since I left the evil, wicked, demon infested cult.

How do you really feel? Don't hold back....LOL.

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NEWS : New developments in the London Bethel relocation story

by raymond frantz in

london bethel relocation the story so farthere are new developments in the relocation of the london bethel development .

a landowner has agreed unconditionally to sell her rundown car breakers yard to jehovahs witnesses for their new uk headquarters, it emerged this week.. the international bible students association (ibsa) paid a deposit, agreed a final price and swapped contracts with charmaine small this month for temple farm in ship road, west hanningfield.. ms small has promised the ibsa the charity used by the religious sect to distribute its literature that dozens of car dealers will vacate the 50-acre farm over the next few months.. speaking to the chronicle, stephen morris, of the ibsa branch relocation department, said...(read full article here ).

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AndDontCallMeShirley

who pays for the environmental cleanup of that site?

The environmental toxicity is far less dangerous than the 'spiritual' toxicity soon to inhabit the same plot of land.

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My anointed mother sleep over!! She hears demon creaking at night and my wife cheats on me!

by Witness 007 in

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visiting her "lost son" and this morning she says there was demonic "knocking" on the windows and ceiling and she did not sleep.

my wife has her own buisness and works late so her holiness asked me to drive down to see if she was fornicating with anyone....she thinks two worldly people taking an elevator to the 10 floor would have had sex by the 5th floor....thats the quality of anionted alive today...she is not nuts a well respected pioneer nazi..... .

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AndDontCallMeShirley

she thinks two worldly people taking an elevator to the 10 floor would have had sex by the 5th floor.

This is incorrect. It almost always happens by the third floor. Worldly people are extremely horny.

Thats the quality of anionted alive today...she is not nuts a well respected pioneer nazi....

I've met similar "anointed" ones in the last few years. My only thought was, if this is the best god can do (if he exists- he doesn't) then JWs are in a world of hurt when these nutjobs take office to rule the Paradise Earth™.

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A QUESTION FOR JW'S who say, "The brothers were overly zealous" about 1975

by Terry in

"what was the actual significance of that year, then?".

if jw's were overly zealous, what was the exact amount of zeal encouraged by the wts for a non-event which took up.

over 7 years of every jw's time?.

AndDontCallMeShirley

The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah; 1971; 2nd ed.; p. 216:

"Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom."

Now consider what the F&DS has said about those making such false predictions:

Awake! 1968 Oct 8 p.23 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end to the world," even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The "end" did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? Missing from such people were God’s truths and the evidence that he was guiding and using them."

Watchtower April 1, 1972, p. 197

"Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a 'prophet' of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record. What does it show?"

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A QUESTION FOR JW'S who say, "The brothers were overly zealous" about 1975

by Terry in

"what was the actual significance of that year, then?".

if jw's were overly zealous, what was the exact amount of zeal encouraged by the wts for a non-event which took up.

over 7 years of every jw's time?.

AndDontCallMeShirley

No, of course WT didn't hype 1975...the rank and file came up with the concept all on their own and even managed to get their ideas into WT literature and preach it for several years before WT caught on. Sneaky devils, those R&F.

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Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15

"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. ... Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!"

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1968: "Why Are You Looking Forward To 1975?" … "What about all this talk concerning the year 1975? Lively discussions, some based on speculation, have burst into flame during recent months among serious students of the Bible. Their interest has been kindled by the belief that 1975 will mark the end of 6,000 years of human history since Adam's creation. The nearness of such an important date indeed fires the imagination and presents unlimited possibilities for discussion." (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1968, p. 494)

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1974: "Yes, the end of this system is so very near! Is that not reason to increase our activity?...Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world's end." (Kingdom Ministry, May 1974, p. 3)

Of course, WT has gone down this road before...and failed then as well. Compare to this statement to one made 58 years earlier:

1916: "We see no reason for doubting, therefore, that the Times of the Gentiles ended in October, 1914; and that a few more years will witness their utter collapse and the full establishment of God's kingdom in the hands of Messiah." (Watchtower Reprints, VI, Sept 1, 1916, p. 5950)