Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

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2 Faced JWs and Thanksgiving

by minimus in

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many jws enjoy turkey on thanksgiving day and are often discreet about their indulgences.

why be two faced?

why try to excuse it?.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Why be two faced? Why try to excuse it?

The JW religion/culture is based squarely on duplicity; it's not what you are really doing that counts, only how it appears. End of story.

I've received many a birthday card from a JW on my birthday, only with the word "birthday" on the card crossed out. "Happy Birthday" !

See, if they cross it out, it's no longer a birthday card and Jehovah will not smite them for giving a non-birthday card to a JW on their birthday wishing them a happy birthday. Forget to cross the word "birthday" out and Jehovah™, the god of minutiae and rice paper-thin skin, will be miffed.

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"The governing body at that time..."

by OneEyedJoe in

so i'm listening to the regional manager give his mid week talk and he's going over acts 15 where they're dealing with the issues that arrose from the jewish christians wanting the gentile christians to adhear too the mosaic law, so some of the apostles gathered to hash it out.

it struck me, though, that he kept using the phrase "the governing body at that time" to describe the apostles and older men who decided on the matter.

once he even slipped up and said apostles, then corrected it to the gb.. i'm thinking that they've actually gone so far as to put it in his outline to make sure its beaten into the r/f that the gb's power is somehow based in scripture.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Well, WT did insert in the rNWT (aka, "The Silver Sword") that there was a governing body in Jerusalem. So, it must be true.

You see, the best way to advance a doctrine that isn't in the Bible is to revise your old Bible and actually put the errant doctrine in the new Bible. Problem solved.

As at least one scholar said of the NWT (aka, "The Old Busted Sword"), WT formulates doctrine first, then creates their own Bible to support that doctrine.

As OT and Terry pointed out, Paul wasn't consulting any alleged "governing body" for his assignments. He worked all on his own. If WT wants to use that info. as precedent, then JWs shouldn't have to consult the present GB about anything. ANYTHING !!

Finally, the Acts account clearly says that women were present at the "governing body" meeting in Jerusalem and instrumental in the decision-making process. If that account is precedent, why are their no women members on the GB today?

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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

by Simon in

after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

AndDontCallMeShirley

The Americas were built on Cultural Genocide and Physical Genocide.

You just described human history, not just American history. Empires are not built on "playing nice".

And your assertion has nothing to do with what happened in Ferguson.

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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

by Simon in

after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

AndDontCallMeShirley

Too funny, moomanchu.

I think 99% of the MB-types fail on the first two rules:

1. Don't break the law

2. Use common sense

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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

by Simon in

after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

AndDontCallMeShirley

Its been realized in some of these situations similar to the one I mentioned, that people have gone on to a psychotic episode. ???

If I'm being attacked and my life is in imminent danger, I'm not going to ask my attacker for his meds list or the name of his psychiatrist before I defend myself.

If I have one or two seconds to decide my fate, I err on the side of saving my own life rather than a thug's.

Whether you're killed by a nutjob or a sane person, you are still dead.

[edit]:

finklestein, I see your view and appreciate it. If there is a non-violent, non-lethal option in a self-defense situation, then a person should take that avenue first. However, it's very easy to be an "armchair quarterback" and assert what you would, or wouldn't do, if your life is threatened. Fear, adrenaline, etc. all change the game, and what we think we'd do and what we actually do are often worlds apart.

Self-preservation wins everytime.

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Wal-Mart Workers Plan Huge Protest on Black Friday

by talesin in

wal-mart, which pays a top wage of $12.00+ to its full-time employees, is under attack, once again, by its employees and those who would like to unionize them.. i can't speak to the usa, but here in canada, most wal-mart employees are not full time.

it is mostly a part-time employer, so zero benefits.

in my opinion, that makes the $12.00+ look a lot smaller when you envision the actual paycheque.

AndDontCallMeShirley

The problem with your theory, ADCMS is that unemployment is high and part time jobs are some of the only jobs available. New job growth has produced a lot of part time jobs. Another problem is that the economy is built on these jobs; someone will always have to work them.

I was stating a personal view, not a theory.

If the economy is built on low-paying part-time jobs, and unemployemnt in general is high, then it isn't a Walmart problem, is it?

When I hear these arguments it reminds me of what happened a few years ago when activists shut down Nike factories in somewhere like Malaysia. The activists successfully shut the factory down permanently due to exploiting their workers, low wages being the primary complaint of the activists. Guess what? The workers were furious because Nike was the only job in the area that paid anything worth working for. Low wages are better than no wages.

I'm not supporting corporate exploitation of workers, I find the business-model of many corporations to be despicable, but an oft repeated theme here is, 'sure the workers don't have an education or any saleable skills, but they deserve a high wage'. Why? Higher wages are a natural outcome of more education and more skills. There's a reason why a shelf stocker at Walmart doesn't make the same money as the store manager or a university professor. Besides, if the economy is in the tank, there are few jobs available, and a Walmart in a depressed area is hiring, then a person has a few hard choices to make: work for Walmart, work for another local company, move to an area with a better economy, get an education, develop some marketable skills, or start their own business.

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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

by Simon in

after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

AndDontCallMeShirley

Is it too much to expect that police officers who are trained with using guns to use these guns in a non-lethal way like shooting at the legs or shoulders

of perpetraters who they are trying to subdue . ?

Hmmm....if some nutjob is charging me with a weapon, I don't think I'll be deciding how to wing him just hoping it stops him. What if he's on PCP? Shooting him in the leg will just piss him off.

Let's consider:

option 1: shoot him in the leg, hit the femoral artery, and he bleeds out in 3 minutes.

option 2: shoot him in the shoulder and hit the subclavian artery and he bleeds out in 3 minutes.

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In boxing there's a saying: "Everyone has a plan until het gets hit".

It's very easy to think that while being attacked and your life is threatened that you'd be a compassionate, well-aimed shootist.

Bottom line is: if you don't want to get shot by a police officer (or anyone else) don't be an a**hole.

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Wal-Mart Workers Plan Huge Protest on Black Friday

by talesin in

wal-mart, which pays a top wage of $12.00+ to its full-time employees, is under attack, once again, by its employees and those who would like to unionize them.. i can't speak to the usa, but here in canada, most wal-mart employees are not full time.

it is mostly a part-time employer, so zero benefits.

in my opinion, that makes the $12.00+ look a lot smaller when you envision the actual paycheque.

AndDontCallMeShirley

And how would they educate themselves out of poverty if they can't afford groceries? Education is expensive.

Ironically enough, through government subsidies for education. Nice how that works, right?

I'm not in disagreement with you on this. I personally boycott businesses I don't like who have not-so-great business practices.

Bottom line is, though: people are not forced to work for Walmart. If they apply for and get hired for a job that pays $7 an hour for 30 hours a week, how can this same person claim they got bamboozled?? They knew exactly what they were getting into. If $7/hour for 30 hours a week is not enough for them to live on, then don't apply for a job at Walmart.

I might not like the fact that I don't make as much money as Tom Cruise, it's "unfair" he makes more money than I do, I "deserve" to be a millionaire too, but it doesn't change the fact that he makes movies that earn hundreds of millions of dollars and I don't.

I've read more than one rags-to-riches story where some person was a waitress, ditch digger, whatever, and when the pain of not earning enough to live on became too great, they rolled up their sleeves and changed their lives. People working at Walmart have the very same opportunities. If they put as much effort into bettering their lives as they do protesting and pissing & moaning, they wouldn't still be working at Walmart. End of story.

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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

by Simon in

after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

AndDontCallMeShirley

truthseekeriam: Most likely you will never be in a situation where you have to worry about how scary you might look to someone with a gun. I don't have that privilege, I have to worry each time my husband or son drives away hoping they remember to always keep their hands on the wheel if pulled over by a police officer.

But, according to your example, having your hands on the wheel won't matter, because if you look "scary" the police officer is going to shoot you anyway, right?

The trial and subsequent verdict was not about the relative 'scariness' of the suspect. It was about a dumbass who stupidly attacked a police officer.

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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

by Simon in

after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

AndDontCallMeShirley

I have to classify the Ferguson riots as much more likely an opportunist excuse (largely if not entirely) for acting out and getting away with it within dysfunctional community of peers.

Exactly what I said on page 5, Terry. Boil it all down and this is not about racism or a trial gone bad...it's troglodytes doing what they do, nothing more.